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    This is my two cents worth of suggestions. Please submit this letter to Mr. Trump’scampaign managers for their consideration and verification.

    There is a false moral dilemma the open borders hucksters are selling: that either we have a mass round up and deportation,which would be inhumane and hugely expensive -- or we give them “legal status” (amnesty). Please tell Mr. Trump he must refute this huckster fallacy whenever it is used.

    Firstly, if we take away all of the incentives for foreigners to illegally breach our border, the great majority will certainly go home because there would be no reason for them to stay here and go hungry without work. End welfare fraud by illegal aliens, demand proof of legal status to get food stamps. Make E Verify mandatory. No school enrolment for those who can not provide proof of legal status. Send Mexico the bills for the medical treatment of those who provide no proof of legalstatus.

    Secondly, once the border is sealed it will become a simple matter of gradual attrition for
    ICE to catch and deport the few illegal aliens who refuse to go home.

    Thirdly, history has proven that it certainly is practical and cost effective to round up and deport the 30 (not 11) million illegal aliens quatters. The so-called OperationWetback in 1956 implemented by President Eisenhower proved the practicality of organized mass deportation of illegal alien squatters. What happened in 1956 was this: once the illegal foreigners saw our government was serious about enforcing immigration with a general deportation the great majority went back home voluntarily because they did not want the hassle of being arrested.

    The 1986 Reagan amnesty was supposed to be a one time only. The border was supposed to be forever secured. How about we honor the promises made in that law?

    Illegal aliens MUST GO HOME ! If they are allowed to stay that is amnesty. All of the other laws will be meaningless and ineffectual. It will be “closing the barndoor after the horse has run away.”
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    Although Trump's plan may not be perfect, it's probably about as close as we can get with this selection of candidates, except perhaps that of Cruz or Santorum. For me, this increases Donald's chances of getting my vote. Go Donald!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BossaNova View Post
    Although Trump's plan may not be perfect, it's probably about as close as we can get with this selection of candidates, except perhaps that of Cruz or Santorum. For me, this increases Donald's chances of getting my vote. Go Donald!
    Well, William says Trump should win the presidency based on his immigration stance alone! It is the best plan out there by anyone who has a chance! I never heard Cruz or Santorum mention mass deportation. Only Trump!

    William, if Trump is going to win he has to have a better answer on defense than "I watch the shows"! That's something ANYONE in the public can say.

    If you can get a message to the Trump campaign you've got to tell them Trump needs some former military generals as advisors on Iraq and international military affairs so Trump will be taken seriously there!
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    I like Trump's immigration platform....but he needs to add the following items:
    1. End Chain Migration
    Chain Migration is the primary mechanism that has caused legal immigration in this country to quadruple from about 250,000 per year in the 1950s and 1960s to more than 1 million annually since 1990. As such, it is one of the chief culprits in America's current record-breaking population boom and all the attendant sprawl, congestion, and school overcrowding that damage Americans’ quality of life. See Rep. Hice's HR 604
    2. End Visa Lottery
    The Visa Lottery Program is managed by the Department of State, which awards up to 55,000 permanent resident visas a year to applicants from countries with relatively low rates of immigration to the United States compared to other countries, based on data from the previous five years. The visa lottery grants visas based on pure luck to people regardless of family ties, skills, education or to the United States, exposing this country to national security threats such as espionage, terrorism, and criminal refuge. See Rep Posey's HR 2278.
    3. In-State college tuition
    End In-state college tuition for illegals.
    4. Assist local governments
    See Rep Michael Davis HR 1148. His proposed bill Authorizes: (1) states or their political subdivisions to enact and enforce immigration criminal penalties as long as they do not exceed relevant federal criminal penalties; and (2) state or local law enforcement personnel to investigate, apprehend, arrest, or transfer to federal custody aliens for immigration enforcement purposes to the same extent as federal law enforcement personnel.

    Sources: Numbers USA website; https://www.numbersusa.com/resource-...reat-solutions

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    Quote Originally Posted by J2289 View Post
    I like Trump's immigration platform....but he needs to add the following items:

    3. In-State college tuition
    End In-state college tuition for illegals. . .
    Each state sets their own tuition rules.
    The federal government and the president have nothing to do with it.

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    http://www.alipac.us/f12/texas-first...act%92-268620/ (In 2001)
    NO AMNESTY

    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    They are letting too many bad people off too easily. ID theft is a terrible crime--though they think they can justify it if they are working here. Not paying taxes is terrible----and those of us who do have to cover their deficiencies and pay for things that should not happen in the first place. Driving without a license or insurance is terrible. It is terrible for them to directly seek to influence our officials, instead of using only registered lobbyists. It is terrible for them to assist drug smugglers and even worse if they assist human traffickers and worse if they engage in prostitution or even minor amounts of molestation. These are a terrible people, no matter what country they come from. they do not have Protestant ethics or values.
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    Judge Andrew Napolitano just declared that we're screwed:
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/08/1...itano-explains
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    http://www.alipac.us/f12/trumps-anch...tution-322229/

    "The Constitution says very clearly, whoever is born here - no matter the intent of the parent - is a natural-born citizen. He could not change that. Even if he were to change the Constitution, it would not affect people who had already been born here. It would only affect people not yet born here," said Napolitano.
    NO AMNESTY

    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    If this is true, the best ANY candidate can do is change it going forward. Trump is the best we have right now unless another candidate steps up and makes the strong statements he's making. He CAN'T lay all his cards on the table-- regarding bringing back in any "non-criminals" that are deported-- my guess is the requirements will be so stringent that most won't come back. Sometimes you have to read between the lines unless you're into inviting the venom of the left right now to throw him off his focus going forward. Anyone whose major issue is illegal immigration or immigration in any sense needs to acknowledge that Trump is the best we have right now. We can only hope he doesn't back down or change his platform to please those who are shocked by his non-PC rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    http://www.alipac.us/f12/trumps-anch...tution-322229/

    "The Constitution says very clearly, whoever is born here - no matter the intent of the parent - is a natural-born citizen. He could not change that. Even if he were to change the Constitution, it would not affect people who had already been born here. It would only affect people not yet born here," said Napolitano.
    The current anchor baby policies of the United States are based on an interpretation of the clause that was added to the Constitution to cover the slave population, not millions of illegal aliens. America is one of only 2-3 remaining modern nations with such a policy and many others that had the policy have done away with it.

    Over the last 11 years Ive seen many legal scholars claim that birthright citizenship could be removed by Congress clarifying what the interpretation of the clause is supposed to be.

    And if we need to, we have enough popular support in America to change the US Constitution on this as a matter of national defense and survival. Otherwise, China and Mexico will soon control the US by exploiting our borders, laws, and birthright citizenship clause.

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