This guy is so liberal - just like McCain. Ask the REAL Hernandez, Gilmer, who HE would vote for!!
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This guy is so liberal - just like McCain. Ask the REAL Hernandez, Gilmer, who HE would vote for!!
SCARY!!! When I see McCain who, by the way is NOT a hero in my book. As near as I know, all he did was get shot down and get captured...that makes you a hero??? It wasn't in my day in WWII.
Back to being scared...I too am sick of 98% of all politicians. They remind me of trial lawyers. Barf. McCain is a good talker. That all! And now, for him to choose that Mexican bum for an advisor to the latinos shows us his true colors...and they are NOT the Red, White and Blue!
Unless some angel pops up and runs as a true conservative, all we can hope for now is that Romney will win and that he will choose someone as good for his VP...like Tancredo or Paul.
God....please help us!
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Originally Posted by rogerf
I never heard that interview. Very interesting.
americ:
Thank You for your service Sir.
The highest rank I ever made was Army Brat. The military wouldn't take me, but that never stopped me from fighting and defending this country through conservative political activism. At this point I'm not sure John McCain is much better than John Murtha. What's with these Johns anyway?
Looks to me that the political agenda for the North American Union is right on schedule. Businesses were allowed to import cheap but illegal labor for years. Previously, we saw our government grant an amnesty to illegal aliens. Now, we see rallies where other-than-citizens are marching in our streets for their "rights". Last year we saw the beginnings of the amnesty debate in Congress. This year, we see that almost all of the candidates have decided on allowing working illegal aliens and their families the right to remain in our country, another amnesty. We are being invaded by the so called poor people from Central and South America and our government officials do little or nothing to stop it. ICE makes cursorary raids to pacify citizen cries for justice, while sedicious open border advocates place water at desert crossing points and ram illegal alien rights cases through our courts. This election will be a turning point in U.S. history. Don't be surprised when the newly elected president signs a treaty with Mexico and Canada to kick off the new NAU. I would expect that we will also see some form of anti-gun legislation coming soon also. After all, we don't want armed citizens protecting their right to have a country with secure borders or have a right to work in their own country, would we.
Bush used those "Key" words like Security and prosperity. He talked about the new meeting that will take place in New Orleans. Our government doesn't hide it anymore.
McCain callls Rommney a "flip flopper" perhaps the man has looked at the issues and is not too stuborn to change his mind, has anyone ever done that. Unlike even Bush who is so bullheaded that once he makes up his mind thats it. No matter what we the people say, In watching the debates it is pretty clear that McCain is a lier how can you change that. All he has to offer is Millitary, which we have Generals to handle, and a lifetime in the government that is not working for the people of America, only for the fat cats in Washington DC. If McCain gets in all we have fought for is going to be gone, he is a bullhead and will do what he wants not what we want.
Well, since Obama announced he is for giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens today I think he hasn't learned much. Davis was run out of office and Spitzer was bombarded by his citizens. Let's face it CA and NY are both liberal states yet they don't want that.
If McCain is the nominee I won't vote and I'll let Obama have it. Rahm Emanuel has said that they can't do anything on immigration until the second term of a Democrat President. Well, that means they will control Obama and not let that come up for signature before him. I think the states would also fight it. BUT if that should happen. It will really cause an anger in the American citizen and he could be a one term President.
I see that posters like wilcoxalan, Cliffdid, madamex, and Buddy are [Mod Edit] so full of hubris that they needn’t read any other posts. Prof. Hernandez is a natural born US citizen so he can’t be stripped of his citizenship or deported, at least not according to the Constitution which some of you claim to support. Now perhaps one could argue that his actions are close to treason, i.e., giving aid and comfort to the enemy, however we’re not at war (at least constitutionally) and Mexico isn’t considered a hostile nation, although its actions and words seem to belie that. Remember, Mexico sided with the Axis Powers during WWII.
ProudPatriot seems to have a problem that “he (Hernandez) is able to pass himself off as a (sic) [Mod Edit].â€
RECCE1-A very well written statement. I agree. However, from the candidates that are doing well in the primaries, I believe this nation will be run by an open border, pro-illegal, NAU supporter after the next election. The majority of the voters are following the press reports, and the press reports are controlled by the polititians and big business. Follow the money, and you will get the answer. Barring ballot manipulation, I do not feel the common voter really understands what is happening and what is at stake. I see this election as the turning point, where we will begin to cease as a nation, to be consumed by the Spanish speakers from the South. I don't like it at all, but, MOD EDIT, I cannot see any way of stopping it.
This guy (Hernandez) needs to be the first sent back to Mexico. McCain needs to be close behind.
DonaldH, sadly I agree with your assessment. It's my belief that the Democrats will capture both Houses and the presidency. It's a consequence we conservatives will have brought upon ourselves and a fate well deserved. Had the Republicans stayed with their 1994 contract with America rather than initiating a contract on America the country would be in much better condition. Instead we allowed the Republican politicians when the captured all three to act like a bunch of unruly children let loose in a candy store. The hall mark of the Republican Party has become earmarks and swilling at the public trough.
Furthermore, we conservatives allowed the neoconservatives, former liberals and Trotskyites who were mugged by reality but who refuse to press charges and with a Machiavellian view towards governance, to take over the Republican Party. Now we see an administration that has been willing to sacrifice essential liberties for a little temporary security. I believe Benjamin Franklin had a few words as to the fate deserved by those who allowed such.
I often ask people to name just one of the Bill of Rights that's still intact save the 3rd, so far. Or, in light of the supreme Court Kelo Decision can we say we still have property rights? And without property rights can we say we have civil rights? If we answer the questions frankly can we honestly say that we still live in a democratic Republic under the rule of constitutional law? I for one don't believe so.
Yet I'm not willing to give up hope for what was once a great experiment, a beacon to a lost world, a prayer, a hope that was the United States of America. It's time the American people woke up, dusted off another founding document, the Declaration of Independence, and took it to heart with a vengeance, keeping in mind the real reason the 2nd Amendment was written.
Hey folks, PhredE Admin/Moderator guy here checking in.
Just a couple quick points -
1. Please respect one another's opinions without resorting to name-calling or belittling. Such behavior is explicitly against the rules, and repeated violations will likely not lead to a good outcome.
2. I had multiple reports of problems with this thread and did have to spend a significant amount to time to retroactively clean things up. I am now returning it to be posted upon.
3. A big WELCOME! to all the new folks that have stopped in to join us in the last few days. ... Welcome aboard! :D
Your cooperation and attention to the rules is appreciated :D :wink:
Thanks Phrede. I know our newbies may not be use to a site that takes the rules seriously, but as of late, this one does. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by PhredE
Well you sure don't have any doubts about McCains agenda, do you! I believe that the majority of the U.S. doesn't want amnesty for illegals. It would be a travesty of justice not to mention and insult to those immigrants who are going throught the right path to citizenship. And what the heck are the Duka brothers still doing here? Has authority lost its mind??? Please pray that God will get His man elected who will do the right job.
Sharlee 8)
If anyone can get the hair up on a red blooded Republicans' back faster than Hillary it is Juan! So let me get this right ....in November I may have to choose between McCain and Juan or Hillary? YIKES
What a Country!!
Hi geminga
I couldn't have said it better myself. :lol:
Thanks for stopping in. Please feel free to stick around and jump right into the fray with us... :D
FORGET "MAD COW DISEASE" AND TRACKING OF
INFECTED CATTLE.
THE GOVT SHOULD BE TRACKING ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINALS
AND SENDING THEM BACK TO MEXICO CITY, FAR FROM THE BORDER.
BRING OUR TROOPS BACK FROM IRAQ AND CREATE A "SURGE"
HERE ON OUR POROUS BORDERS TO STOP(NOT STEM)
THE FLOW OF CRIMINALS INTO OUR COUNTRY.
STOP GIVING THEM MEDICAL AID AND FOOD WHEN THEY GET LOST
OR STRANDED IN THE DESERTS BY THEIR "COYOTES".
PASS LAWS THAT DENY "SANTUARY STATUS" IN ANY CITY OR RELIGIOUS
FACILITY. TREAT THESE CRIMINALS AS THE "TERRORISTS" THAT THEY ARE
SINCE THEY WANT TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY.
NO BENEFIS(MEDICAL, EDUCATION,SUBSISTENCE, ETC)
IS ONLY WAY TO DETER THEIR CONTINUAL
CRIMINAL PENETRATION OF OUR COUNTRY. THIS IS MY COUNTRY, NOT THEIRS.......
REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!!
JIM S.
I just sent these videos and news articles about Juan and John and asked another person to forward these on to their contacts. Don't let your outrage stop here. Please send this information on to others and ask them to do the same. Americans need to know what has been happening and what will happen to America and to their families, wallets and wages and jobs.
Thank you for doing your part to help save America, our families, our cities and our communities.
Ephesians 4:32
Well, you ask for no foul language, so I'll respect you request. I guess that about says it all. :evil: What more "can" be said?
Hi GunnyGrits, Sharlee, Geminga and welcome to Alipac. Welcome to all new members. We appreciate your comments and activism.
:)
Ephesians 4:32
I am so disappointed with the candidates and their associates but this one takes the cake !!!!!!!
Anyone who votes for this man is condeming the rest of us to a life of woe.
What does it take to wake up and smell the tacos? None of our core values are represented here.
PEOPLE wake up and fight for our "Nation". We are going down the tubes on the backs of those who really care about Freedom and the American Way.
Let's go back to believeing in the Constitution and the hope that our "ForeFathers" had for us.
While "We" play the Politicans are taking our Freedoms away :?:
Welcome nannie. Too many Americans do not know that this is what you will get with John McCain. Say good-bye to the America we knew and look for the uniting with Mexico and the amnesty that he and Ted Kennedy tried to pass last year.
You are right about the candidates as a whole- so sad.
Keep making your calls, sending emails, forwarding this to your email contact lists and telling friends and family.
Ephesians 4:32
Did you read the transcipt from Glenn Beck show with Michelle Malkin? She said her website is full of people saying they will stay at home if McCain gets the nomination.
I have not seen that Gogo. Will look at Michelles' site.
Ephesians 4:32
Here's a link to the thread with the transcript:
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-100874.html
This should have been brought up in the debate!! Why on earth wouldn't Huckabee or Romney hit McCain with this and totally destroy any semblance of credibility some people still give him in immigration??
I sent Romney's campaign an email yesterday, it sure can't hurt to keep sending the emails and maybe even call them. I know I'll keep at it.
I don't think dual citizenship should be allowed. Where is a person's allegiance when they are citizens of two countries that are at war with each other? The president of Mexico has shown his hatred for our citizens and our country many times. Where is Hernandez's allegiance? I don't believe it's with the U.S. :roll:
Y'all DO know that McCain has already stated IN PLAIN ENGLISH that his goal of granting amnesty is STILL THERE. He says he will have each border state "certify" that their borders are "sealed". THEN, he will proceed with amnesty. I can't believe that that statement hasn't been splashed all over the media and boards! I was absolutely shocked as I sat there listening to that interview - that the IMBICILE had the audacity to sit right there on national television and state that his goal is still amnesty. So WHO are the idiots that are still voting for the imbicile???? And NOW, he'll have every mexican connected to an illegal in this country, voting for HIM!!!
Folks, my choice was not Romney, but he's all we've got now if we're to beat McCain. The "elites" are the ones who resuscitated McCAmnesty and they did so with the intention of seeing to it that HE wins. Can we ALL band together now to beat this jerk? How do we reach every state in time to teach them what he is and NOT to vote for him?
PURE AND SIMPLE: Our U.S. Constitution specifically forbids dual citizenship. Yet, look at Bush's administration. So now you know what we're up against.Quote:
Originally Posted by Balance
If we try to deny illegals services the ACLU and liberal courts will fight it every step of the way.
We need to deny the ACLU taxpayer money. Let them get their funds from LaRaza and all the other Latino groups.
Bush has let the true Americans down. I voted and worked his last time around and had I really known of his intentions I would have worked against him.
People knew that McCain had worked with Kennedy and Feinstine[sp] and I was against him even then.
I won't stay home from voting even if I have to do a write-in. I may not be able to do much but at least I'll have the satisfaction that I did what I could :!: :!:
I'm so frustrated that the average citizen has no forum in which to fight the system. We have to take what the fat cats send down to us.
Had I had the resources I'd take to the streets and airways to fight this.
People, get ready for what was set in motion a long time ago and kept secret from the citizens, Mexico, Canada and the U.S. Also keep your eyes on the "Land and Sea Treaty" they aren't done with that either.
God will only let us go so far and He has given us plenty of time to straighten up.
Don't worry, it's not over yet. I've been emailing and called Romney's campaign and was told they've gotten lots of calls about McCain/Hernandez.
I've also emailed the RNC chairman identifying myself as an independant voter concerned with the illegal immigration problem, here's the email:
Mr. Chairman,
In the past I've had little interest in politics. Recently, however, I've had no other choice than to become involved and informed as I could no longer stand by and watch as our government shown no willingness to deal with the problem that illegal immigration has become.
If it has not already been brought to your attention, you should be aware that Sen. McCain has a well known proponent of illegal immigration and amnesty for illegal immigrants working for his campaign. The senator claims to have heard the voice of the people on this issue, and claims to be the best choice to keep our nation secure. The fact that Mr. Hernandez is working for Sen. McCain calls the senator's integrity into question on this and all other matters. Personally, I do not believe that I can trust the Senator to do anything to stop the illegal immigration problem. If Sen. McCain does not consider the open border situation we currently have to be a security threat, as demonstrated by his actions, he is obviously not as qualified to keep our nation secure as he would like people to believe.
Sincerely,
=========================
Perhaps if the RNC hears from other independant voters they are hoping to attract if McCain gets the nomination, it may do some good for the cause.
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Originally Posted by nannie
McCain is "sleeping with the enemy". Juan Hernandez is the slimiest creature I have witnessed that was not a character in a movie. Hernandez is not good for our country and anyone considering a vote for McCain should be aware of who he has at his side.
McCain has Juan Hernandez on his campaign working for "Latino Outreach." This is the same man who supports LaRaza & says the SW is a Region. He fails to recognize the US States in this "Region." I have looked at much of the rhetoric regarding this issue. I am now convinced that our leadership in both parties want this new underclass to fill jobs, once held by organized labor. By out--sourcing jobs to countries who notoriously pay "sweatshop" wages, American labor & the unions to which they belong will disappear. Now, this new uneducated, unskilled & mostly illiterate underclass will fill those once out-sourced jobs. For a time they will be paid minimum wage. There will be no "collective bargaining", because there will be no org. to represent them. Perhaps, once they realize they need to get an education & start helping themselves, the tables will turn. In reality, most of them have no interest in assimilating & becoming part of this country. The US will become another country with a poor, uneducated, unskilled majority! The NAU will become a fact. The country we once knew will be gone. What do we say to all those brave men & women who are fighting & dying in the Middle East? Is this the America they are fighting for???
I agree that our "Politicans" are working for the NAU and I'm angry that this is happening. It seems as though the average citizen really have no say. [Does this remind you of the Calvery and Indians?]
Somehow they think that "they" will have more power after this happens--Boy, they are going to yell like mashed cats when "they" find out that they are just the pawns used by others.
Prayer is all that we have left and then I think it's just a prayer for us to be able to endure.
I wonder "who" sent down the word that they wanted McCain to win the peimaries. George Sorrous where are you?
Maybe you should check Title 8, United States Code,Quote:
Originally Posted by recce1
[note that I'm not saying Hernandez has performed any of these acts, only that it is possible for a natural born citizen to renounce their citizenship or lose it.]
§ 1481. Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized
citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions
(a) A person who is a national of the United
States whether by birth or naturalization, shall
lose his nationality by voluntarily performing
any of the following acts with the intention of
relinquishing United States nationality—
(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign
state upon his own application or upon an application
filed by a duly authorized agent,
after having attained the age of eighteen
years; or
(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation
or other formal declaration of allegiance to a
foreign state or a political subdivision thereof,
after having attained the age of eighteen
years; or
(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces
of a foreign state if (A) such armed forces are
engaged in hostilities against the United
States, or (B) such persons serve as a commissioned
or non-commissioned officer; or
(4)(A) accepting, serving in, or performing
the duties of any office, post, or employment
under the government of a foreign state or a
political subdivision thereof, after attaining
the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires
the nationality of such foreign state; or (B) accepting,
serving in, or performing the duties of
any office, post, or employment under the government
of a foreign state or a political subdivision
thereof, after attaining the age of
eighteen years for which office, post, or employment
an oath, affirmation, or declaration
of allegiance is required; or
(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality
before a diplomatic or consular officer of
the United States in a foreign state, in such
form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of
State; or
(6) making in the United States a formal
written renunciation of nationality in such
form as may be prescribed by, and before such
officer as may be designated by, the Attorney
General, whenever the United States shall be
in a state of war and the Attorney General
shall approve such renunciation as not contrary
to the interests of national defense; or
(7) committing any act of treason against, or
attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing
arms against, the United States, violating or
conspiring to violate any of the provisions of
section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing
any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18,
or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging
in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to
destroy by force the Government of the United
States, or to levy war against them, if and
when he is convicted thereof by a court martial
or by a court of competent jurisdiction.
(b) Whenever the loss of United States nationality
is put in issue in any action or proceeding
commenced on or after September 26, 1961 under,
or by virtue of, the provisions of this chapter or
any other Act, the burden shall be upon the person
or party claiming that such loss occurred, to
establish such claim by a preponderance of the
§ 1481 TITLE 8—ALIENS AND NATIONALITY Page 436
evidence. Any person who commits or performs,
or who has committed or performed, any act of
expatriation under the provisions of this chapter
or any other Act shall be presumed to have done
so voluntarily, but such presumption may be rebutted
upon a showing, by a preponderance of
the evidence, that the act or acts committed or
performed were not done voluntarily.
I keep seeing this in various places, and I beg to differ.Quote:
Originally Posted by "recce1[u
From: Webster's New World Dictionary of the American Language, Second College Edition, 1976
crime, n.: an act committed in violation of a law prohibiting it, or omitted in violation of a law ordering it, specif., any felony or misdemeanor except a petty violation of a local ordinance; crimes are variously punishable by death, imprisonment, or the imposition of certain fines or restrictions.
Now, unless you can justify calling a Federal Law a 'local ordinance' I don't see how you can say that a foreign citizen who crosses the US border in violation of our immigration laws has not committed a crime. Even a misdemeanor violation of a law is a crime. [I have six other dictionary references that all say the same thing.]
You are correct that a second entry is a felony. It doesn't make much difference, Bush and McCain will not enforce it either way. :evil:
I think I'll register with the Constitution Party. If a large enough number of Conservatives follow me there we can cut the legs out from under the other so-called Republicans... or just replace them. It won't cost you anything but a few minutes time to look it over: http://constitutionparty.com/
Jessica Echard is wonderful; and then the Devil has arrived.
What a Mexican? Dr, Juan Hernandez - This is what we get with dual citizenship. :idea: Amnesty....Hate It.
Last two omitted....Send this traitor committing treason to Mexico.