William Gheen's Open Letter about Reporter's rape comments.

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08-14-2007, 01:25 PM
ALIPAC

William Gheen's Open Letter about Reporter's rape comments.

his letter is in response to the comments made on Fox News tonight.

VIDEO LINK
Greta Van Susteren reports on the murder of Dani Countryman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tReIZ73BrqY

William Gheen's Open Letter to Mr. Steve Mayes of The Oregonian

Mr. Mayes:

On the night of August 13, 2007, you were interviewed by Greta Van Susterenon on Fox News about the rape and murder of Dani Countryman. Police have charged two illegal alien cousins with her murder by strangulation.

You stated in the interview that Dani was kissing Alex Gamboa earlier in the evening and later they had their pants down as Alex called to his cousin Gilberto to help him subdue Dani and that he put his foot on her neck, which strangled her.

You also stated, "If it was consensual or not consensual, that is up in the air."

Sir, may I remind you that the legal age of consent in the states of Oregon and Texas is 18! Dani Countryman was 15 and Alex Gamboa is 24. It is legally impossible for the intercourse or attempted intercourse between them to have been "consensual".

How you could ever question whether a 15 year old girl who was fighting back at the time of her murder, against two males in their 20's who were on top of her, in a state where the legal age of consent is 18 was having consensual or non-consensual sex is beyond me.

I am requesting that you publicly retract your statement made on Fox News in front of millions of viewers and that you issue an open apology to the victim's family for your insult and misrepresentation of this case.

From the news reports available at this time, Dani Countryman was either raped or murdered during a rape attempt that was either violent, statutory or both.

I hope you will do the right thing and retract your statement and apologize to the family.

William Gheen
President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC)
www.alipac.us
Post Office Box 30966, Raleigh, NC 27622-0966
Tel: (919) 787-6009 Toll Free: (866) 329-3999
FEC ID: C00405878

CONTACT INFO

Steve Mayes
503-294-5916
stevemayes@news.oregonian.com

Letters to the Editor
503-221-8150
letters@news.oregonian.com
08-14-2007, 01:29 PM
ALIPAC

added to the alipac homepage with the following note

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=N ... e&sid=2465

ALIPAC NOTE: Links to the Video and contact information for your letters to Mr. Mayes and letters To The Editor of the Oregonian are found following the links at the end of this article!
08-14-2007, 01:56 PM
ALIPAC

Letter to the Editors version

Quote:

VIDEO LINK
Greta Van Susteren reports on the murder of Dani Countryman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tReIZ73BrqY

William Gheen's Open Letter to Mr. Steve Mayes of The Oregonian

To The Editor:

On the night of August 13, 2007, your reporter Steve Hayes was interviewed by Greta Van Susterenon on Fox News about the rape and murder of Dani Countryman. Police have charged two illegal alien cousins with her murder by strangulation.

He stated in the interview that Dani was kissing Alex Gamboa earlier in the evening and later they had their pants down as Alex called to his cousin Gilberto to help him subdue Dani and that he put his foot on her neck, which strangled her.

He also stated, "If it was consensual or not consensual, that is up in the air."

May I remind Mr. Hayes that the legal age of consent in the states of Oregon and Texas is 18! Dani Countryman was 15 and Alex Gamboa is 24. It is legally impossible for the intercourse or attempted intercourse between them to have been "consensual".

How anyone could ever question whether a 15 year old girl who was fighting back at the time of her murder, against two males in their 20's who were on top of her, in a state where the legal age of consent is 18 was having consensual or non-consensual sex is beyond me.

I am requesting that Mr. Hayes publicly retract his statement made on Fox News in front of millions of viewers and that he issue an open apology to the victim's family for the insult and misrepresentation of this case.

From the news reports available at this time, Dani Countryman was either raped or murdered during a rape attempt that was either violent, statutory or both.

I hope Mr. Hayes will do the right thing and retract your statement and apologize to the family.

William Gheen
President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC)
www.alipac.us
Post Office Box 30966, Raleigh, NC 27622-0966
Tel: (919) 787-6009 Toll Free: (866) 329-3999
FEC ID: C00405878
08-14-2007, 02:17 PM
ALIPAC

These letters have been sent into the Oregonian and I have called them as well.

Anyone else want to weigh in and letter them?

W
08-14-2007, 02:52 PM
Dixie

You you know I can.

Dixie
08-14-2007, 04:02 PM
nntrixie

Has this man no shame - smearing a 15 year old girl to attempt to put two illegal monsters in a better light.?

Just wonder though, did he think she was consenting when one put his shoe on her neck and killed her?
08-14-2007, 04:19 PM
americangirl

I sent emails to both the above email addresses.
08-14-2007, 04:22 PM
hell2pay

As far as I can tell; no one in the Oregon media has any shame.

Dani Countryman's myspace memorial page:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =221612998

Her story was also added to mydeathspace.
08-14-2007, 04:54 PM
April

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

These letters have been sent into the Oregonian and I have called them as well.

Anyone else want to weigh in and letter them?

W

I already did.
08-14-2007, 05:03 PM
JAK

Quote:

Originally Posted by hell2pay

As far as I can tell; no one in the Oregon media has any shame.

Dani Countryman's myspace memorial page:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =221612998

Her story was also added to mydeathspace.

....so sad! :cry:
08-14-2007, 05:10 PM
ALIPAC

Quote:

Originally Posted by hell2pay

As far as I can tell; no one in the Oregon media has any shame.

Dani Countryman's myspace memorial page:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =221612998

Her story was also added to mydeathspace.

Thank you for bringing this link to us. The video is very sad. I will put it in our email alert going out tonight.

W
08-14-2007, 05:46 PM
NCByrd

emails out!

The editor at the Oregonian apparently doesn't care what is in his paper!
08-14-2007, 08:42 PM
hell2pay

Rape charges added to murder case against illegal alien cousins

05:25 PM PDT on Tuesday, August 14, 2007
By kgw.com Staff

Two suspects accused of killing a Texas teen while she was on vacation in Milwaukie, Ore. were arraigned on charges of murder, rape and sex abuse Tuesday, authorities said.

A Clackamas County grand jury added the attempted rape and sex abuse charges against Alejandro Rivera Gamboa and his cousin, 23-year-old Gilberto Javier Rivera Gamboa.

If convicted, both men could face the death penalty.

The Gamboas admitted they came to the United States illegally.

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/k ... ba54f.html
08-14-2007, 08:44 PM
nntrixie

Quote:

Originally Posted by hell2pay

Rape charges added to murder case against illegal alien cousins

05:25 PM PDT on Tuesday, August 14, 2007
By kgw.com Staff

Two suspects accused of killing a Texas teen while she was on vacation in Milwaukie, Ore. were arraigned on charges of murder, rape and sex abuse Tuesday, authorities said.

A Clackamas County grand jury added the attempted rape and sex abuse charges against Alejandro Rivera Gamboa and his cousin, 23-year-old Gilberto Javier Rivera Gamboa.

If convicted, both men could face the death penalty.

The Gamboas admitted they came to the United States illegally.

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/k ... ba54f.html

Welcome, Hell2pay.
08-14-2007, 09:34 PM
crystalprincess

Dani

I sent my letter - but I sent it to AP.
Made the subject line - A Blackout of News - Why would you do this?

I even suggested that they do their job without bias!

My closing was absolutely furious.

Earlier, I sent a letter to Governor Easley... doubt I will hear anything substantial from him!
08-14-2007, 09:53 PM
SOSADFORUS

Just e-mailed them and rated and left comment on u-tube.

This story just breaks my heart and my prayers go out to the family.

It wasn't bad enough they were victims first by the illegals but then too become victims a second time by the news media is unforgiveable.
Especially when you have already suffered a horrible loss.
08-14-2007, 10:05 PM
Rockfish

There's one man and one man only that you can directly place the blame on Dani's death. If he had sealed the border when we were all yelling about our security shortly after 911, this might not have ever happened. God bless her sweet little soul. As a father of a 9-year old little girl, I weep for this precious one. So inocent.. DAMN THIS PRESIDENT!

MORE BLOODON BUSH'S HANDS!!
08-15-2007, 01:28 PM
Ladyfish13

Rape and Murder

I emailed them and rated the article.

What is it going to take to get everyone to wake up and do something about all of the illegals that are commiting crimes in this country. We house enough of our own criminals. Stop deporting them, which amounts to setting them free. Put them in prison and keep them there. Reinstate the death penalty. Hang a few of them, put them in the electric chair...sentence them to death for the life that they have taken. Then you will see how fast this begins to curtail the problem. Right now they are literally getting away with murder and nothing is being done to stop them.

Congress and the President are responsible for this mess. They live sheltered lives in their own special world. Get your ass off of your couch and get out and vote everyone of them that is up for re-election out of Office. Replace them with real people, not YES MEN........
08-15-2007, 01:55 PM
ALIPAC

Welcome to our boards Ladyfish13 :D
08-15-2007, 02:28 PM
TexasBorn

Ladyfish, eloquently put and to the point! We MUST stop coddling these people and groups who put them here. Death penalty, amen!
08-15-2007, 06:11 PM
Taurus

Perhaps I'm too naive to catch all the nuances of statements made on television interview shows, but I think some folks are giving a "bum rap" to the Oregonian reporter. I don't think he was trying to give a "legal" argument as to the consentuality of poor Dani. Rather it seemed to me he was not certain whether the act was with or without her cooperation. :?: :?:
08-15-2007, 06:47 PM
novaman

Taurus, welcome...I think William's statement that she was underage was sufficient in this case. All persons are bound by the laws of this land. Even if she did cooperate, it is still illegal by law. Hence, William presented what I think is the proper view. By the way, that is true in any state, with any one, regardless of race, religion, orientation, etc.

William, sent off to the addresses my concerns and comments. This has got to stop!!!
08-15-2007, 07:22 PM
extex

Taurus

I doubt that her murder was consensual...................

extex
08-15-2007, 07:56 PM
Dixie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taurus

Perhaps I'm too naive to catch all the nuances of statements made on television interview shows, but I think some folks are giving a "bum rap" to the Oregonian reporter. I don't think he was trying to give a "legal" argument as to the consentuality of poor Dani. Rather it seemed to me he was not certain whether the act was with or without her cooperation. :?: :?:

It doesn't matter, it was irresponsible reporting to say a child, which had been raped and murdered that could not legally consent to a sex act had possibly done so. The poor "bum rap" reporter that makes a living using the power of words was being delicate to the crimigrants. He should have been more literal and truthful and said the illegal aliens statutory-gang raped and murdered a child. That's what happened, that's the truth and nothing less. The crassest of his comments he might as well have said "she asked for it". That defense really angers me and we know she was a victim of illegal alien criminals.

I'll bet my bottom dollar that during trial testimony, your going to find out that the events before and after her attack were far worse than what we have heard so far.

Dixie
08-17-2007, 04:53 PM
AmericanElizabeth

Well all, I sit here reading yesterdays commentary page, and yes William, they did print your letter, although they condensed it.

They ended your letter with "having consensual or non-consensual sex is beyond me". Nothing about you request for an apology to the family or a retraction of his statementson Greta's show.

Although, they did thankfuly include ALIPAC's name and Williams status as president of ALIPAC.

BTW. I am keeping this copy, this is great to see here in Oregon.
08-17-2007, 05:04 PM
ALIPAC

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth

Well all, I sit here reading yesterdays commentary page, and yes William, they did print your letter, although they condensed it.

They ended your letter with "having consensual or non-consensual sex is beyond me". Nothing about you request for an apology to the family or a retraction of his statementson Greta's show.

Although, they did thankfuly include ALIPAC's name and Williams status as president of ALIPAC.

BTW. I am keeping this copy, this is great to see here in Oregon.

Can you find us an online link to the version of my letter they ran? They are not supposed to edit or condense it without my consent.

W
08-17-2007, 05:10 PM
Dixie

I just looked for it and didn't find it.

It wasn't in either of these locations and I searched for your name.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/oregonianopinion/letters
http://blog.oregonlive.com/oregonianopinion/

Dixie
08-18-2007, 01:00 AM
AmericanElizabeth

Sorry it is this way with Oregonlive.com. The "Letters to the Editor" are never found on this site for some reason.

Strangely enough, sometimes if you do a general search with keywords in Internet Explorer, you can actually find it, but did not this time.
08-18-2007, 09:34 AM
BorderFox

Quote:

Originally Posted by extex

Taurus

I doubt that her murder was consensual...................

extex

Exactly.
08-18-2007, 12:01 PM
jp_48504

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth

Well all, I sit here reading yesterdays commentary page, and yes William, they did print your letter, although they condensed it.

They ended your letter with "having consensual or non-consensual sex is beyond me". Nothing about you request for an apology to the family or a retraction of his statementson Greta's show.

Although, they did thankfuly include ALIPAC's name and Williams status as president of ALIPAC.

BTW. I am keeping this copy, this is great to see here in Oregon.

Can you find us an online link to the version of my letter they ran? They are not supposed to edit or condense it without my consent.

W

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregonian/sto ... xml&coll=7
Thursday, August 16, 2007

Quote:

Sex wasn't consensual

Reporter Steve Mayes told Greta Van Susteren on Fox News Aug. 13 that Dani Countryman was kissing Gilberto Gamboa earlier in the evening and later they had their pants down as Gilberto called to his cousin Alejandro to help him subdue Dani and that he put his foot on her neck, which strangled her.

Mayes also stated, "If it was consensual or not consensual, that is up in the air." May I remind him that the legal age of consent in the states of Oregon and Texas is 18! Dani Countryman was 15 and Gilberto Gamboa is 23. It is legally impossible for the intercourse or attempted intercourse between them to have been "consensual." How anyone could ever question whether a 15-year-old girl who was fighting back at the time of her murder against two males in their 20s was having consensual or non-consensual sex is beyond me. WILLIAM GHEEN Raleigh, N.C. The writer is president of the Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee.

This is all they posted.
08-18-2007, 02:16 PM
AmericanElizabeth

Great find JP!! It is REALLY hard to find anything on oregonlive.com, well at least I have trouble finding stuff.

I was glad to see they EVEN posted it, as The Oregonian is one of the more liberal papers in the NW, well maybe not as liberal as Seattle Times!!

I hope some who have been on the fringe of the illegal immigration debate here in this area see this letter and are intrigued enough to come here and join us.
08-18-2007, 02:45 PM
BorderFox

Every time I read about her I want to puke.
08-18-2007, 02:59 PM
AmericanElizabeth

Borderfox, this has made me so sick, and then to have this perv from The Oregonian say it may have been "concensual"!!!!!!!! Since when can a 15 year old girl give herself consensually to ANYONE? Another point this jerk seems to forget in the whole sordid story is that the rapist woke his cousin because this girl was "struggling" with him, which would tell any compassionate human being (which Mr. Hayes obviously is not), that she was trying to avoid being raped. DUH!!!!

We have a 9, almost 10 year old daughter. She is almost five feet tall, and although she looks like a girl with her face, she is in that "blossom" stage of life. She is totally knaive about everything and we watch her like a hawk with these illegals around. We have to assume she will never be safe in her own country, state, city and neighborhood so long as our government will do nothing to expel this pedophilic group from our country.

And yes...I have seen the way these adult men will watch our daughter. I will stare them down and usually pull out my cell phone for show, they turn away swiftly and leave the area.