Thread: DON'T BUY PEPSI IN THE NEW CAN!

Pepsi has a new "patriotic" can
coming out with pictures of theEmpire State Building , and the
Pledge of Allegiance on them.
However, Pepsi left out two little words on the pledge,
"Under God."
Pepsi said they didn't want to offend anyone.
In that case, we don't
want to offend anyone at the Pepsi corporate office, either!
So if we don't buy any Pepsi product, they will not be offended
when they don't receive our money that has the words
"In God We Trust" on it

HOW FAST CAN YOU FORWARD THIS ONE?

bearpaw:

Oh let's offend them. Do you happen to have Pepsi's corporate structure's emails?

I'm going to email my network, now. Thanks.

funny thing how no one is offended by "In God We Trust" when it comes to money

Hi Mamie,

I'll bet you a nickel that they're working on trying to get it off our money, too!

Originally Posted by curiouspat

Hi Mamie,

I'll bet you a nickel that they're working on trying to get it off our money, too!

I'd bet you are right

This is an old urban legend that keeps popping up from time to time.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/undergod.asp

(Doesn't mean I'm defending any companies that hire illegals.)

that actually has been challenged, unsuccessfully...and while I don't feel "offended" per se, I do have a problem with this country's evangelical obsessions. I just have a lot better ways to spend my money than hiring a lawyer to object to a few words on a dollar bill. And if I'm not mistaken, "Under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance sometime after it was originally authored.
My problem is this (besides the fact that I'm an Agnostic), it is contradictory to both call this Nation a "melting pot" and to celebrate that fact as being what makes us unique and then in the same breath to declare that we are a Christian Nation (not unique, not a melting pot because the concept of a melting pot MUST logically include other religions and other "Gods")

Originally Posted by Mamie

funny thing how no one is offended by "In God We Trust" when it comes to money

thanks for the link. I didn't see the Empire State Builing, but I did see the Statue of Liberty

while I don't feel "offended" per se, I do have a problem with this country's evangelical obsessions

For better or worse, I don't think any "evangelical obsession" is going to disappear any time soon. You may not know it, but the events these days point to all of us being caught up in a conflict against Christianity, whether we like it or not, whether we simply wish it were the case...or not. It is not a war against Islam. It is not a war against Buddhism. It is a war that specifically seeks to actively ban God from the Public Square and prevent the influence of individual Christians anywhere in society.

That does NOT mean that those who are Not Christians are the Problem. That is also NOT the case. Anyone and everyone is welcome to believe what they want. There are many non-Christians who are comfortable with Christians and Christianity and who are NOT hostile to Christians.

However, there is another group. This other group has a personal hatred for God, and are determined to make sure that everyone also agrees to Ban God.

Politically, most of them are very close to communist, and most of them pursue communist goals. That would include banning American History from American classrooms, banning the descriptions of the Founding Fathers as Christians, and banning the discussion of how churches and pastors played a great role in the American Revolution and in the founding of this country.

Evangelicals are not going to be less quiet when these issues come up. Since the "end" of the Cold War, the hardcore Left in this nation has had a very difficult time coming to terms with the fact that 80 years of their propaganda has given them control of the Institutions of power, but NOT of the American People. And they know that one of the main reasons for this are the Christians who continue to stand up for their rights, for history, and for the Founding Fathers.


And that does not mean - incidentally - that each and every single Founding Father was a Christian but it Does mean that MOST of them overwhelmingly were. George Washington specifically was. His writings are filled specifically with references to Jesus Christ not once or twice but over and over.

The concept that America is a melting pot is mostly a trick, a means to be able to teach multi-culturalism (where American History is practically banned). Most of the time, Multi Culturalism is a trick to dilute almost all history into a push for the United Nations and Globalism.

The more that people try to ban Christians and stop Christians from participating in public discourse (like the ACLU and others regularly do), the Louder Christians are going to become.

One of the issues that matters IS the issue of the mention of God. I know that most people already know this, but if GOD did not exist, and if God did not give us rights, then:

1) what makes them "rights", and

2) what makes those rights "innalienable" ?

to a Christian what makes those rights innalienable is that those rights were NOT given by a government official, but by GOD.

Since GOD is the one who gave them to each and every single one of us (Christian or Not), Each of us has a duty to try preserve those rights.

That perspective brings Christians in on the side of the PRO-Border, Pro-Sovereignty, Pro-Private Property groups. ANd that is what the hardcore left attacks and resents, every day.

Almost no other country acknowledges God in their own documents, and almost no other countries have the rights that we have.

There are many forces trying to tear the U.S. appart. One of those forces is International Socialism. International Socialism is the focus of MOST of the Illegal Invasion groups, and it is also the focus of Europe (as a rule).


International Socialists wage a constant war against 1) religion, 2) the role of religion in public life, and 3) against Private Property. International Socialism is against the ability of individuals to be able to accumulate wealth.

By and large, most of the Socialist approach is based on an attack against Property and an attack against the Christian God. We can contrast that approach with the Founding Fathers.

The Founding Fathers based a great deal of what they did on the work of John Locke. John Locke's treatise (Second Treatise of Government) was one of the main sources for the Constitution and the idea of the Separation of Powers and limited government.

But Locke's work was based on another book, Lex Rex that was written by Samuel Rutherford It could have been written by anyone, but it happens to have been written by the Preacher Samuel Rutherford.

To Christians, Separation of God from Government is impossible. Those who actively try to do this (not that anyone has suggested that here) end up communist.

The consequences of leaving God out of Public Schools and out of the training of children has very real consequences.


The MYTH - almost always fostered by communists - is that where Christian influence is pervasive, that this means that Christians would then force others into THEIR OWN spiritual beliefs.

That is simply not the case. The one exception to this is the Vatican, and millions of Christians have nothing to do with the Vatican (including the more than 500 million Pentecostals).

UNLIKE Islam, Christianity, Christians and Evangelicals recognize that each person has the right to make up their own mind what they believe and to decide for themselves what is or is not true about God and Eternity.

On the other hand, there are millions and millions of Christians who have been part of the Silent Majority. And many of them - more and more of them - are willing to be SILENT NO MORE.

GH

These issues seem small, but they do have great implications. If Pepsi wins, then other corporations will follow. These things DO matter. There is another case that illustrates the importance of these small issues.


It seems unrelated but its not.

A group of people came to a small town. They were conservative activists. They found a place to stay for the time that they would be in town.

That place turned out to be a Christian College. The group decided to stay at that campus.

There was no problem. Everyone was happy.

Everyone except the local COUNTY Officials.

They figured that this was a good time, to decide to have an attack on Property Rights.

So they went to the College and informed them that they could not have people on their private property without a specific Zoning Permit.


It turns out that there is a little bit more to the story.

The Group of People that were at that college campus were The Minutemen and Gilchrist was one of those who was there. It was his group that was in town to help organize.

And it looks as if THAT is what the county really had a problem with.

The case is currently in court.

The point is that it was a Christian group that stepped in to help. That happens over and over and over, far more than most Christians will step up and say it.

The situation during the Aftermath of Katrina was that thousands and thousands of churches went down to the Hurricane affected area and rebuilt homes, and gave a lot of time and resources to help. A great amount of that help was organized by Churches.

That is not to say that non-Christians did not help. They did. But it is easy to overlook the positive influence that Christians have in this culture, even though they are not perfect, even though they screw up sometimes.



Why the situations with Evangelicals and other Christians will be louder.

There are many battles looming on the horizon.


One of the problems is that there are many forces trying to DILUTE the influence of true and sincere Christians.

Lets make a difference between Sincere Christians and Fake Christians for one minute.

A Sincere Christian is a person who is a Christian - even when they screw up. The point is that they are still trying to do the right thing.

On the other hand, a Fake Christian is someone who uses Christian terminology in an attempt to mislead and misdirect Christians.

That conflict is about to get much louder. And the reason is that there are now many forces that are attempting to stop Christians from having a real influence in saving this nation.


In order to STOP the influence of Christians from helping to save the borders, the history and the nation, there are OTHER forces willing to Pretend to be Christian in order to mislead others.


One of the best examples of this is the World Council of Churches. Although officially "Christian", they are a communist group. They hate true Christians, they work actively to encourage their persecution during the days of the Soviet Union, (they had many of their officials also working for the KGB), and they worked constantly to change, alter and weaken any kind of theology that was helping people, and helping them to preserve their American Heritage.

For the World Council of Churches, they have always had 2 problems: they have always wanted more of the United Nations ,and they have always wanted more Globalism.

As Christians are able to identify those who are deliberately deceiving them while pretending, those battle will also intensify the profiles o f Christians on the cultural landscape. Most of these battles are STILL AHEAD.

Few groups are Worse loosers than hardcore leftists who already believe that America is the problem in the world. They are happy to see America destroyed.




Whether Enough Christian influence can be brought to bear in this nation to help save it, is an open question. But at the very least, what we need is More Christians and More Christian influence, not less.


GH