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    Lawsuit: 100,000 noncitizens registered to vote in Pennsylvania

    Lawsuit: 100,000 noncitizens registered to vote in Pennsylvania



    More than 100,000 noncitizens are registered to vote in Pennsylvania alone, according to testimony submitted Monday in a lawsuit demanding the state come clean about the extent of its problems.

    The Public Interest Legal Foundation, which has identified similar noncitizen voting problems in studies of Virginia and New Jersey, said Pennsylvania officials have admitted noncitizens have been registering and voting in the state “for decades.”

    But state officials have stonewalled PILF requests for access to the data that could expose the problem, the group says in a lawsuit filed in federal court in Harrisburg.

    “For months, Pennsylvania bureaucrats have concealed facts about noncitizens registering and voting — that ends today,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said.

    He said Pennsylvania had already admitted to a “glitch” dating back to the 1990s that had allowed noncitizens applying to renew driver’s licenses to be offered the chance to register to vote. Mr. Adams said he now wants to find out how bad the problem is overall.

    Pennsylvania officials wouldn’t respond to the lawsuit, nor to the 100,000 noncitizen number.

    “We’re not going to comment on anything related to litigation,” said Wanda Murren, director of communications and press at the Pennsylvania Department of State.

    The 100,000 number cited in the lawsuit comes from testimony given by Philadelphia Commissioner Al Schmidt, who revealed the glitch in the state motor vehicle bureau’s systems that prompted noncitizens to register to vote.

    The PILF did manage to obtain some records from county officials and filed some of their findings in the new court case.

    One man, Felipe Rojas-Orta, canceled his registration last year, filing a handwritten note saying he was not a citizen. He had, however, registered as a Democrat and voted in three separate elections, including most recently 2016, the year of the presidential race.

    Another woman had her registration canceled in 2006 as a noncitizen, yet re-registered to vote twice — and cast ballots in some elections. That woman is still active in the system, the lawsuit says.

    The federal “motor-voter” law requires states to make voter registration available at motor vehicle bureaus, but also pushes states to try to keep their voter roles clean. Under the law, private parties can sue to press states to perform the cleansing.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...tered-vote-pa/


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    ICE, go get them and deport them.

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    Why does this happen in the first place. Glitches, intentional or not, inexcusable. And being able to check a box on things that you are a citizen when you are not is easy when no one checks or finds out till after you vote. Lying is part of illegal immigration and non citizen fraud.

    We have a lot of catching up to do on all things immigration related.
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    Pa just passed a law to have paper copy of a vote.

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    The American People should all have a face like this




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    Paper ballot with copy for voter, citizenship verified, purple inked finger.
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    The paper back up copy is a deterrent - a strong one, it is verified voter fraud, punishible by law.

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    My solution is a little more complicated.
    When you vote, you can opt for a printout of your votes, which is serialized. This doesn't identify the voter.

    Then the voting results are posted on the internet.

    By entering that serial number, you can see and verify that the results of your ballot are accurate.

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    J. Christian Adams, President of The Public Interest Legal Foundation, is still working to stop voter fraud. - Good news.

    PILF Sues Pennsylvania to Release Data on ‘100K’ Noncitizen Voter Registrants

    Foundation Alleges PA Violated NVRA

    (HARRISBURG, PA.) – February 26, 2018: The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) filed a lawsuit today against the Pennsylvania Department of State for failing to disclose a reported 100,000 noncitizen registered voter records under federal law (PILF v. Torres et. al. 1:18-cv-00463).


    In summary, the Pennsylvania Department of State (DOS) refused the PILF’s rights to inspect or be furnished documents related to noncitizen registered voters either reporting their own unlawful activities or discovered thanks to a joint study with the Department of Transportation (PennDOT). The latter effort has reportedly revealed 100,000 cases of noncitizens currently registered to vote in the Commonwealth. The DOS’ actions constitute an apparent violation of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993.


    A core concern for the lawsuit stems from a report by City of Philadelphia Commissioner Al Schmidt to the Pennsylvania Assembly in 2017, which detailed how a DOS/PennDOT study of noncitizen driver’s license holders matched records belonging to roughly 100,000 current voters in the statewide registration database.


    The DOS/PennDOT study was triggered in September 2017 after Pennsylvania officials admitted to a “glitch” that offered voter registration opportunities to all PennDOT customers regardless of citizenship status since the 1990s. Prior to the study, election officials only took actions to remove ineligible noncitizens from the rolls after they self-reported their statuses. A full accounting of how many registered and voted remains unclear due to the DOS’ intentionally limited transparency.


    For months, Pennsylvania bureaucrats have concealed facts about noncitizens registering and voting—that ends today,PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said. “Before this lawsuit, the State admitted to a ‘glitch’ that exposed thousands of driver’s license customers to voter registration offers despite their noncitizen status since the 1990s. The Secretary of State abruptly resigned. DOS officials blocked federal public inspection rights. The PILF hopes to finally get answers about the true scale of noncitizen voting in Pennsylvania and assist lawmakers in crafting reforms that fix it.”


    Beginning in October 2017, the PILF began a formal dialogue with the DOS to inspect records related to noncitizen voter registrants. Requests were rejected twice, despite making them pursuant to Section 8 of the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA). The NVRA allows unfettered physical inspection rights to all records related to voter list maintenance. In December 2017, the PILF notified the DOS of its apparent violation of the NVRA. The lawsuit filed today seeks to compel inspection of the aforementioned records.


    For a detailed look at the fact pattern leading to today’s lawsuit, click here.


    The Public Interest Legal Foundation has built a record of case studies uncovering noncitizen voter registration and voting in a growing number of states.



    • In October 2016, PILF found noncitizens registered to vote in Philadelphia. Half of those voted in at least one election.
    • In May 2017, PILF found 5,556 voters removed by the Commonwealth of Virginia as “non-citizens”. Roughly 33% voted. This research followed an initial October 2016 sampling that yielded 1,000 noncitizens.
    • In September 2017, PILF found 1,069 noncitizens within New Jersey’s voter registration system.
    • In October 2017, PILF testified before the Pennsylvania House State Government Committee on the matter of noncitizen voting in the state and encouraged an official review to identify more ineligible voters. Testimony was taken again by the PA Senate State Government Committee in December 2017.
    • In January 2018, PILF put Bexar County, Texas, on notice that it will file a federal lawsuit if officials continue to refuse inspection of voter records belonging to noncitizens discovered or self-reported.
    • In January 2018, PILF put Harris County, Texas, on notice that it will file a federal lawsuit if officials continue to refuse inspection of voter records belonging to noncitizens discovered or self-reported.


    A copy of the case fact sheet can be found, here.


    The complaint and exhibits filed as of today may be accessed at the PILF website, here.


    The case was filed in the United States District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, Harrisburg Division. The case number is 1:18-cv-00463.


    Attorneys for the Public Interest Legal Foundation are J. Christian Adams and Noel H. Johnson. Philadelphia-based Linda A. Kerns, Esq. from the Law Offices of Linda A. Kerns serves as local counsel.


    Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) is a 501(c)(3) public interest law firm dedicated to election integrity. The Foundation exists to assist states and others to aid the cause of election integrity and fight against lawlessness in American elections. Drawing on numerous experts in the field, PILF seeks to protect the right to vote and preserve the Constitutional framework of American elections.

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    GET THE LIST OF NAMES TO ICE...IF ILLEGAL...THEN FAST TRACK DEPORT THEM OUT OF HERE!

    ANOTHER 100,000 THAT NEED TO BITE THE DUST, HIT THE TRAIL...AND GET OUT!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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