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    Has Donald Trump hit bottom?

    Has Donald Trump hit bottom?

    The GOP presidential nominee is out on the trail ahead of the general election in November.

    By Dan Balz Chief correspondent August 13 at 11:31 AM

    The unraveling of Donald Trump’s candidacy continues apace, a long and steady decline since the high point three months ago. If he were deliberately trying to avoid winning the election, he could hardly be doing a better job.

    The hole he has dug for himself is wide and deep. National polls and battleground state polls all tell a similar story. Hillary Clinton has opened up a small-to-significant lead over Trump almost everywhere it counts. Unless Trump can reverse course, Clinton, despite persistent questions about her honesty, is on track to win a handsome electoral college majority. The lone bright spot for Trump: It’s August not October. But that comes with a caveat.

    Republicans hope Trump is bottoming out. They are waiting for a pivot that could and should have happened before Memorial Day. They wonder whether it will happen by the end of the month or at all. Labor Day used to be seen as the kickoff of the general election — that moment when more and more Americans start paying close attention. That notion is a relic of another era — and Trump is hardly underexposed. The general election is already half over, and Trump has lost the first half decisively.

    The past few weeks provide a telling account of a candidate who has found multiple ways to avoid focusing on a consistent message. He got into a pointless and damaging exchange of criticisms with Khizr and Ghazala Khan, the parents of Army Capt. Humayun Khan, who was killed in Iraq in 2004. He hesitated to give House Speaker Paul D. Ryan an endorsement while praising Ryan’s opponent in the Wisconsin primary. He made a comment at a rally that appeared to advocate violence against Clinton or Supreme Court justices. And then he claimed that President Obama was the founder of the Islamic State (and Clinton the co-founder).

    The pattern was consistent. Days of damaging media attention followed by cleanup efforts. After not endorsing Ryan, he endorsed Ryan. After making his comment about what Second Amendment supporters could do if they didn’t like Clinton’s judicial appointments, he and surrogates said he was only talking about mobilizing a key constituency. After calling Obama the founder of the Islamic State, and doubling down when more benign interpretations of his remarks were offered as escapes, he finally claimed he was just being sarcastic, or maybe not.

    In a political climate that favors change, Trump has managed to make the election as much about temperament and stability as it is about shaking up the status quo.

    Where has this left Trump? He trails Clinton by more than six percentage points in the RealClearPolitics national poll average. The two biggest battlegrounds, Ohio and Florida, remain competitive, although Clinton currently leads in both. Trump must win both or find a truly innovative route to victory. Trump also trails by an average of roughly nine points in Pennsylvania, another state considered a must-win for him and supposedly ripe for his anti-trade message.

    Beyond that, he trails by an average of five or more points in three states that have been critical battlegrounds in recent elections: Virginia, Colorado and New Hampshire. Newly released NBC-Wall Street Journal-Marist polls show Clinton leading in Virginia and Colorado by double digits, and there is now a question of whether both should be removed from the swing state list.

    Trump advisers point to Iowa and Nevada as states that went for Obama but are now competitive. But, for now at least, so are Arizona, which Democrats have not won since 1996, and North Carolina, which Obama won in 2008 but Mitt Romney won four years ago. Polls even suggest that Georgia is potentially competitive. Trump also trails in Michigan and Wisconsin, two more industrial states his advisers have suggested might be winnable.

    The net of all this is that Trump’s path looks as or more difficult than it did a few months ago.

    All the talk about tapping an army of disaffected white voters who have been on the sidelines in past elections has produced little in terms of tangible evidence. Meanwhile, he continues to bleed support from prominent Republicans, who say they cannot support him in November.

    One thing remains steady for Trump. His core supporters are thoroughly loyal and seemingly enthusiastic. His crowds remain huge. They are also a misleading indicator. The closer Trump gets to Election Day, the more those big crowds will distract him from the reality of the overall campaign. He’s in danger of permanently locking himself into a losing percentage of the electorate.

    Trump continues to practice the politics of subtraction, finding ways to prevent expansion of his potential coalition. Rather than looking at weaknesses in his support and trying to find ways to win a few percentage points among particular groups of voters, his words and behavior do the opposite.

    A comparison of two Washington Post-ABC News polls illustrates the problem. In mid-May, Trump led Clinton 46 percent to 44 percent. In the most recent poll, completed on Aug. 4, Clinton led 50 to 42.

    Among Democrats, Clinton has picked up six points since May. Meanwhile, Trump has lost two points among Republicans. Trump is still ahead among men, and Clinton is ahead among women, but he’s actually lost ground among men, while she’s gained among women.

    He has made no progress picking up support from nonwhite voters and so must rely almost totally on whites to win. His strongest support is still among whites without college degrees, but his margin in the Post-ABC poll has declined from 40 points to 25 points since May. Among whites with college degrees, Clinton has gone from down one to ahead by six. On the ideological spectrum, she has added to her margin among moderates.

    Clinton performed better in two of the three high-profile moments of any general election. Trump’s vice-presidential rollout was messy; hers was not. His convention bounce was modest; hers was larger and, so far, more lasting. That leaves the upcoming debates as even more critical for Trump than they should be.

    There are three presidential debates (and one between the vice-presidential candidates), with the first on Sept. 26. The Commission on Presidential Debates established the dates and formats last year. Trump has sent mixed signals about the debates, but assume for now that he participates in all three.

    Trump believes he won virtually every debate against his Republican primary opponents. Trump’s big personality was an asset in those multi-candidate forums. Trump’s advisers believe his more freewheeling approach will play well against a scripted Clinton. But his disinterest in the details of policy could prove to be a liability in formats that require the candidate to talk much more about issues’ substance.

    Trump needs to put his campaign on sounder footing well ahead of those debates. If the polls then look close to what they are now, he would need decisive performances throughout the debate season. His Republican allies are nervously watching and waiting to see if the candidate responds — quickly.

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    The STUPID, SICK, MENTALLY ILL CORRUPT MEDIA is what's hit rock bottom. And Trump is fighting back, as he rightly should!!

    Remember MEDIA, all your games and lies about Donald Trump and what he said or didn't say is a matter of public record, in our annals of history forever with all your stupid, sick, mentally ill, corrupt names on your articles and videos. All of them.

    When you attack Trump, you attack his Supporters, and when you attack this campaign, you are attacking America.

    Trump supports secure borders, that is our law, we are already supposed to have secure borders, so all of you who want amnesty, path to citizenship, legalization, work permits, shadow immigration, DACA and DAPA .... you are Anti-American, you are AGAINST America, you are against our immigration laws that control our population, control the size of our work force so Americans have plenty of jobs at livable wages, control unemployment, control poverty, control spending on poverty, control growth of our national debt, control spending on education, health care and crime. When you attack Trump for his comments about illegal aliens from Mexico, you are attacking our country and our citizens.

    When you attack Trump on his response to the Khan's vicious display performance against him and his Muslim ban, you are AGAINST America, you are against the very powers of the Executive Branch to secure our nation against harmful threats such as Radical Islamic Terrorism entering our country through inept, incompetent, insufficient and corrupt immigration system that's proven it doesn't work, not on the southern border, not on the northern border, not through USCIS, not through anything. We know from San Bernandino and the Boston Marathon Bombing and 9-11 that our visa and immigration system is a failure because it's not enforced properly. Khan is an IMMIGRATION LAWYER who lines his pockets wheeling and dealing foreign Muslims into the United States. Of course he's against Trump's ban on Muslim immigration, it would put Khan's law firm out of business, NONE OF WHICH has anything to do with Khan's son, his death, his service, Gold Star Families, or their son's religion, it has only to do with MONEY and those who help those buy their way into the United States without being properly vetted AND when we don't need any more immigration to begin with. We're FULL TO THE BRIM, we've had too much immigration, far more than our economy, natural resources and institutions can sustain successfully. Khan is a hateful, two-faced, dishonest, angry Muslim HACK posing as some type of naturalized American. What his son did, has absolutely nothing to do with Khan, the father. The son chose his road on his own in opposition to this father. His son was a hero, Mr. Khan, the father is not and should never be heralded as one. He's a high-rent Muslim immigration lawyer overpopulating our country, threatening our national security and being paid well by foreign Muslims for the damage he's causing the American People.

    People need to ask not what is wrong with Donald Trump, but ask what is wrong with a Media that would condemn Trump for standing up for our borders and protecting our national security yet herald illegal aliens violating our laws and Muslim immigration lawyers making money overpopulating our country and threatening our national security.

    And, after they've finished their answer to that question, ask themselves why they would trust Media polls against a candidate the Media is clearly trying to knock out of a Presidential race?

    People don't trust the polls because they are largely Media controlled polls, the Media has already admitted it's own corruption in this election, claiming they feel compelled to defeat Trump to protect our country, so why would anyone believe a Media poll when the polls defy common sense, the crowds, the support and what people know in their minds and hearts and can see on the streets and in the arenas? It's like: who is answering the phones they call for the poll? The illegal alien cleaning the house? Democrats who their research shows contributed to Hillary Clinton? I mean when polls defy everything you know and see, why would anyone believe them?

    And no, this doesn't apply to all political polls, this applies to the Presidential race, where after 15 months of Media Bias and Corruption, it's actually been acknowledged by the Media itself. And from what I see, there is absolutely no intention or plan to correct it.

    So dig in, put on your seat belts, and ride the wave. Trump's got this, because he understands it, it saw it early, and I believe he will overcome it so long as we all have his back.

    SAVE YOURSELVES AND OUR COUNTRY!

    VOTE FOR DONALD J TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!
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    He is up against a Noise Machine. To counter that the conservative intellectuals need to get on board and come up with a plan to counter this---and Trump should fund them. People like Michell Malkin are extremely well informed; Pat Buchanan and Ann Coulter also. I'll bet that Ann Coulter could draw thousands of underemployed males from swing states to well announced venues. These people COULD explain why Trump is the best choice for the country as a whole.

    But, being conservatives, they are probably just watching out for their own business interests. And the Trump family hasn't so far, really engaged a vision of why Sr. Trump's candidacy is so critical. It's more like "We like our Dad. Aren't you going to vote for him?"
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    Well, the family was being criticized for being so involved, fearing by some comments made on this forum, they "feared" too much involvement by family members in a Trump Administration.

    Trump has to do this himself with his Trump Supporters covering his back. It's all up to him and us. There's no one else who can do it.
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