Thread: Edwards Wants Mandatory State-Managed Health Care

Edwards Wants Mandatory State-Managed Health Care
Socialized medicine means big business and big brother


Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Monday, September 3, 2007



In true 'cradle to grave' big government intrusion style, Democratic hopeful John Edwards has stated that under his presidency every citizen in the U.S. would be forced by law to enroll in a state- managed socialized health care system where regular check ups, including mental screenings, would be mandatory.

"It requires that everybody be covered. It requires that everybody get preventive care," he told a crowd sitting in lawn chairs in front of the Cedar County Courthouse. "If you are going to be in the system, you can't choose not to go to the doctor for 20 years. You have to go in and be checked and make sure that you are OK." Edwards is reported to have said.

The report continues:

He noted, for example, that women would be required to have regular mammograms in an effort to find and treat "the first trace of problem." Edwards and his wife, Elizabeth, announced earlier this year that her breast cancer had returned and spread.

Edwards said his mandatory health care plan would cover preventive, chronic and long-term health care. The plan would include mental health care as well as dental and vision coverage for all Americans.
"The whole idea is a continuum of care, basically from birth to death," he said.
The former North Carolina senator said all presidential candidates talking about health care "ought to be asked one question: Does your plan cover every single American?"
"Because if it doesn't they should be made to explain what child, what woman, what man in America is not worthy of health care," he said. "Because in my view, everybody is worth health care."

The vision of an America where every citizen is forced by law to participate in health screenings overseen by the government should set stark warning bells ringing.

The level of micromanagement and the expansion of government into everyday life this would entail represents the antithesis of the founding principles of a constitutional Republic and the free market.

Edwards has also admitted that the plan would cost up to $120 billion a year, which he proposes covering by ending tax cuts to people who make more than $200,000 per year.

The assertion that every American should also undergo mandatory psychological evaluation by the government will be seen by many as a step too far.

While champions of Edwards have lauded his proposal as a shot at the big pharmaceuticals' monopoly on healthcare, the suggestion echoes the now infamous and much maligned Bush "New Freedom Initiative", a commission for which was established in April 2002, whereupon it recommended comprehensive mental health screening for "consumers of all ages," including preschool children.

In addition to the big brother implications of the government having access to personal medical records, concerns were also raised over the fact that members of the New Freedom Commission have served on advisory boards for several drug companies, while others have direct ties to the Texas Medication Algorithm Project which promotes the use of newer, more expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs and has notorious ties to the major pharmaceuticals.

In 2004 The British medical journal reported on these ties:

Olanzapine (trade name Zyprexa), one of the atypical antipsychotic drugs recommended as a first line drug in the Texas algorithm, grossed $4.28bn (£2.35bn; 3.56bn) worldwide in 2003 and is Eli Lilly's top selling drug. A 2003 New York Times article by Gardiner Harris reported that 70% of olanzapine sales are paid for by government agencies, such as Medicare and Medicaid.
Eli Lilly, manufacturer of olanzapine, has multiple ties to the Bush administration. George Bush Sr was a member of Lilly's board of directors and Bush Jr appointed Lilly's chief executive officer, Sidney Taurel, to a seat on the Homeland Security Council. Lilly made $1.6m in political contributions in 2000—82% of which went to Bush and the Republican Party.

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The New Freedom Initiative has nothing to do with freedom and everything to do with big business, big government and indentured slavery.

John Edwards' scheme is a re-packaged version of the same thing.

Alarm bells should also be ringing given the fact that Edwards has long been obsessed with overhauling healthcare and making a fortune out of doing so. When he was a practicing lawyer, Edwards capitalized on faux scientific lawsuits that helped drive up insurance rates, and contributed to driving up medical costs, thereby helping drive millions of people right out of the medical system altogether. Edwards made tens of millions of dollars in contingency fees.

In addition Edwards' current campaign has so far has accepted about $24,000 from officials in the health care industry, including executives from the drug maker Pfizer and the insurance firm Blue Cross Blue Shield. And when he sought the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004, individuals employed by Novartis, Purdue Pharma and other health care and drug firms donated $25,700 to his campaign.

http://infowars.net/articles/september2 ... dwards.htm

what's this nut job going to do if we refuse? 'YOU!!! Go to bed NOW!!!!!!!! no tv for you tonight'..... yeah

Edwards is a hypocritical phony. If he REALLY cared about the American working class and its wages, he would be a strong opponent of illegal immigration.

I honestly think the man has a mental condition. He also wants to ban SUV's, even though he has several!!

The required screening part is unnerving. No other country (that I know of) with universal health coverage requires you to be screened.

In Canada, France, UK, etc. it's really just a payment system more than anything.

Originally Posted by Lone_Patriot

what's this nut job going to do if we refuse? 'YOU!!! Go to bed NOW!!!!!!!! no tv for you tonight'..... yeah

Lone _Patriot,I don't want to think about what will happen if one of us decides we can live with a condition "they" think needs treatment.



This sounds terrifying-mandatory aka forced medical care.
Do you think we will have an opt-out choice?




Head 'em up,move 'em out Rawhide!

YEAH RIGHT. WE HAVE TO GO TO THE DOCTOR. THE PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM THAT EXISTS DOES NOT REQUIRE THIS. AND I CANT SEE AN ADVANTAGE IN FORCING PEOPLE TO GO TO THE DOCTOR.....AND THE MENTAL HEALTH MANDATE IS RIDICULOUS.

SORRY, THIS GUY CANT BE PRESIDENT, HE IS THE ONE THAT NEEDS MENTAL HEALTH SCREENING.

SOCIALIZED MEDICINE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE MANDATORY. AND MANDATORY MAMMOGRAMS? I JUST HEARD A REPORT RECENTLY ABOUT HOW WHEN THEY TELL YOU THAT RADIATION FROM MAMMOGRAMS EVERY YEAR IS NOT HARMFUL, THAT IS NOT REALLY THE TRUTH. BUT THEY MAKE BIG BUCKS SCARING YOU INTO GETTING THEM THAT OFTEN.

Edwards is not going to be president. I remember when he was running for president and he kept saying over and over: There are two America's; there is this America and there is that America.
Ya, there is one America that gets $400.00+ haircuts and there is the America that isn't stupid enough and won't pay that much for a lousy haircut.
The motto of a democrat is: Do as I say - Not as I Do!

Democrats are control freaks and want to tax and regulate everything in sight. Yet, when looking at any country and community that is heavily controlled, monitored, taxed, regulated by government there is extreme poverty.

From what I have seen in Massachusetts and Maine democrats are dangerous to the health and vitality of Americans. But they are building huge Medical Facilities, I'm sure at tax payers expense, and I'm sure they want to fill those places with lots of sick people. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I don't want the democrats running my life. They can do as I say and Go Away.

The REAL problem with healthcare is that there are too few physicians going into primary care. All of them want to be specialists so they can CHARGE YOU more money. The good old general family physician is in decline -- right now. Socialized medicine cannot work as things are right now. There would be shortages of care like you've never seen before. Or, all they could do would be to refer to to any given specialist who will charge the government out the ying yang for speciality care.

Forget it. These guys are out of their minds. It's all about greed, as is everything else.

I agree with prevention -- but that is also linked to personal responsibility. Don't eat so much, don't smoke, don't drink in excess, exercise, and keep your stress down. If people would just follow those simple rules . . . but no government is EVER going to get people to do that. They are all just insane for even thinking it to be true.

The one to worry about is Hillary. Edwards has no chance to become president, but if Hillary is elected, she will push her universal health care lunacy hard.

Interesting article:

http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_c ... hcare.html

I was once a believer in socialized medicine. I didn’t spend much time contemplating the nuances of health economics. I wanted to get into medical school—my mind brimmed with statistics on MCAT scores and admissions rates, not health spending. But as a Canadian, I had soaked up three things from my environment: a love of ice hockey; an ability to convert Celsius into Fahrenheit in my head; and the belief that government-run health care was truly compassionate. What I knew about American health care was unappealing: high expenses and lots of uninsured people. When HillaryCare shook Washington, I remember thinking that the Clintonistas were right.

My health-care prejudices crumbled not in the classroom but on the way to one.