Thread: What Will We Do if the Illegal Immigration Crystal Ball Lies

Call me cynical but I just can't bring myself to believe that no matter what changes we make in Congress, illegal immigration will still be left unchecked. One only need look back to the '86 amnesty and all the promises that illegal immigration would be stopped once and for all. That was 24 years ago! Did the problem go away to anyone's satisfaction? The answer is pretty obvious to anyone paying attention. The point I am trying to make is that all of us fighting this fight won't be around forever. How many years or generations are we willing to wait? Obviously, those fighting this back in 1986 have waited 24 years. Seems like 24 years is a little long to be waiting for our government to seriously address this issue wouldn't you say? Which leads me to the next question which is one of those "What If" scenarios. How long are WE willing to fight and wait for something to happen? Platitudes that we will "fight forever" or "as long as it takes" just don't cut it. That dog won't hunt anymore. We're fighting for the survival of our country and the clock is ticking. This is immediate and real. What IS that "something" we are waiting for? What IS our measure of success? WHEN will the measures be completed? WHO decides what that measure of success is? Should we not put some kind of time table with benchmarks in place? I'm no genius on how to solve Illegal Immigration in the political arena. Politics and politicians give me hives and occasional constipation. However, I've worked most of my professional life in the private sector and my job survived or failed on verifiable measures, actions and dates. Let's face it, our politicians and policies work in shades of grey, deliberately designed to keep us guessing and hoping by dangling one carrot or another in front of us that our wishes will be fulfilled before we're put in the ground. Want to know my feelings? I WON'T WAIT to be put in the ground to ensure that my children and grandchildren enjoy the AMERICAN Dream and have a better life than I had. Our forefathers wouldn't wait either. They were generations of action. They didn't stake their families future on lofty promises and platitudes. Let's hear from you fellow ALIPACER's. What's YOUR timetable, YOUR measures and YOUR actions? What are you prepared to do? What are WE prepared to do?

I don't think anything of significance will change unless Americans are jolted to take action. Something similar to the illegal marches from 4 years ago, but much more drastic. Most Americans are too apathetic to do something right now. Therefore, the problem will continue to escalate until it reaches a critical mass, and Americans are forced to deal with it. Eventually, illegals themselves will do something that will prove to be the catalyst for major change. Unfortunately, it will have to get worse before it gets better.

BearFlagRepublic and TexasBorn
I think things will have to get a little worse then they are now and I am afraid it may take a little violence before the American people fully wake up to the problems of this illegal alien invasion. And that is what we have and nothing short of it.

Politicians have lost sight of what their true duties are and where their loyalties should lie. They are just as bad or even worse then the invaders we have today. After all, they fail to PROTECT this country as the Constitution states.

And we have a government in control that tries its best to beat the system of checks and balances. Places people in high courts to sway away from the Constitution and towards the thinking of that party or administration.

I know I am at my ends with todays politicians.

This country has fallen on GREED and that includes many citizens as well.
Things probably will not change until these people feel the pinch and someone actually interferes with their incomes and lives.

At this point I stand ready to defend this country. Bring it back on track

Originally Posted by uniteasone

BearFlagRepublic and TexasBorn
I think things will have to get a little worse then they are now and I am afraid it may take a little violence before the American people fully wake up to the problems of this illegal alien invasion. And that is what we have and nothing short of it.

I agree. What is interesting is that our side is doing everything to avoid this, while open borders multiculturalists are inadvertantly making it an eventuality. Their dreams of multiculti pardise will be crushed because #1: It will lead to unintended consequences against our citizens, and #2: These consequences will lead to the strengthening of our side and assure our victory.

I take it you are referring to the violence we have seen on citizens from the IA side. It is not useful for our cause to suggest that we commit violence. Please do modify your post to make this clear!

We have seen much violence from IAs, but it is not fully reported. I think more awareness is needed.

Originally Posted by Watson

I take it you are referring to the violence we have seen on citizens from the IA side. It is not useful for our cause to suggest that we commit violence. Please do modify your post to make this clear!

Not sure if this is directed at myself or uniteasone, but to make everything clear: Yes, absolutely, IA violence against citizens is exactly what I am refering to. I am positive that is what uniteasone was refering to as well.

We have seen much violence from IAs, but it is not fully reported. I think more awareness is needed.

I think this brings us back to square one. Americans are too apathetic at the moment to put pressure on the largely complicit media, and demand that full reporting is done. Unfortunately, it will have to come to a point that it is so bad, not even the MSM will be able to ignore it.

Originally Posted by Watson

I take it you are referring to the violence we have seen on citizens from the IA side. It is not useful for our cause to suggest that we commit violence. Please do modify your post to make this clear!

We have seen much violence from IAs, but it is not fully reported. I think more awareness is needed.

The point was clear. Illegal aliens are responsible for more deaths in this country than military deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan. We see the reports here everyday on ALIPAC. It's a travesty of enormous proportions and our government is complicit.

Originally Posted by uniteasone

BearFlagRepublic and TexasBorn
I think things will have to get a little worse then they are now and I am afraid it may take a little violence before the American people fully wake up to the problems of this illegal alien invasion. And that is what we have and nothing short of it.

Politicians have lost sight of what their true duties are and where their loyalties should lie. They are just as bad or even worse then the invaders we have today. After all, they fail to PROTECT this country as the Constitution states.

And we have a government in control that tries its best to beat the system of checks and balances. Places people in high courts to sway away from the Constitution and towards the thinking of that party or administration.

I know I am at my ends with todays politicians.

This country has fallen on GREED and that includes many citizens as well.
Things probably will not change until these people feel the pinch and someone actually interferes with their incomes and lives.

At this point I stand ready to defend this country. Bring it back on track

The violence and death from IA's against Americans has been going on for decades which is one of the unwritten points I was trying to make. Additionally, the cost of illegal immigration to our taxpaying citizens is on the order of a conservative $200 billion/year. All this in a time when millions, including myself, are out of work, losing their retirement and savings and seeing their healthcare costs skyrocket. IMO, it's incomprehensible that Americans have stood by, watched this happen and done little of nothing. We should hope that the elections in November will be a major wake up call to everyone!

I am back.
Yes Watson , my comment was directed towards the simple fact ,that to really wake up America these illegal aliens would have to make a terrible attack on American citizens. And yes similiar to what has transpired in Mexico along our borders

Although we all know that there have already been many cases of citizens getting killed by illegals in one way or another over these years.

Drug smuggling, Human trafficking, Kidnap, murder,extortion,I'm more worried about the gang members we elected into office then I am the illegal gangs of other countries. Get worse before it gets better, well I'm screwed "Bend over and take it like a man" I miss my job!