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    15,000 Mexican Troops Deployed To US Border

    15,000 Mexican Troops Deployed To US Border

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    In an ongoing effort to stem the flow of illegal immigration into the United States and avoid tariffs from the Trump administration, Mexico has deployed approximately 15,000 National Guardsmen and soldiers to the border, according to AFP, citing the country's army chief.



    Mexico promised earlier this month to send 6,000 National Guardsmen to its southern border, and has promised to build more migrant detention centers and checkpoints to catch and deter northbound Central Americans.
    "We have a total deployment, between the National Guard and army units, of 14,000, almost 15,000 men in the north of the country," announced Defense Minister Luis Cresencio Sandoval while standing alongside Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador.

    When asked if troops were detaining migrants to prevent them from entering the US, Sandoval said "yes."
    "Given that (undocumented) migration is not a crime but rather an administrative violation, we simply detain them and turn them over to the authorities" at the country's National Migration Institute.
    The government has faced criticism over migrant detentions at the northern border since an AFP photographer documented last week how heavily armed National Guardsmen in Ciudad Juarez forcefully stopped two women and a young girl from crossing the Rio Grande river into the United States.
    The policy is a shift from previous practice. The Mexican security forces had not typically detained migrants at the US border in the past.
    Fleeing chronic poverty and brutal gang violence in their home countries, the Central Americans crossing Mexico mostly lack migration paper -AFP
    Mexico signed a deal with the Trump administration on June 7, giving the country 45 days to show meaningful results in their efforts to counter the flood of migrants entering the United States.


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    Doing the Work Democrats Refuse to Do: Mexico Deploys Nearly 15,000 Troops to Border to Stop Migrant Flow to the US

    by Cassandra FairbanksJune 24, 2019143 Comments



    Mexico has deployed 15,000 of their troops and National Guardsmen to their northern border to stop the flow of illegal migrants into the United States.

    It seems as though President Donald Trump has managed to get Mexico to be more serious about protecting our border than the Democratic Party.
    The Mexican troops have been ordered to protect the border amid ramped up pressure from President Trump.“We have a total deployment, between the National Guard and army units, of 14,000, almost 15,000 men in the north of the country,” Defense Minister Luis Cresencio Sandoval said at a press conference alongside President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, according to a report from the AFP.
    Sandoval told reporters that the troops will be stopping and detaining illegal migrants to prevent them from crossing the US border. Mexican officials typically did not stop illegal migrants in the past.Mexico has also deployed 6,000 National Guardsmen to their southern border to stop Central American migrants going through their nation to get to the US.“Given that migration is not a crime but rather an administrative violation, we simply detain them and turn them over to the authorities” Sandoval added.The news comes as a June poll from the Mexican newspaper ElUniversal found that 61.5% of Mexicans want their government to stop allowing migrants from other nations travel through their country to get to the United States.

    The number from ElUniversal’s June survey was a significant increase from the 49% who wanted to stop the flow of migrants in October 2018.The newspaper also reported that the majority of Mexican citizens, 53.7%, do not support granting work visas to Central American migrants — a move that has been pushed by Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador. Another 44.4% want illegal migrants to be immediately deported.

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    I don't know about that idea any more. We will have a foreign armed army at out Southern Border. That's what countries do before they invade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truther View Post
    I don't know about that idea any more. We will have a foreign armed army at out Southern Border. That's what countries do before they invade.

    The Mexican Military has:

    NO Combat Tanks
    NO Rockets.
    NO Aircraft Carriers.
    NO Submarines.
    NO Destroyers.

    2 Fighter Jets
    25 Attack Jets
    205 Helicopters

    NO Attack helicopters

    https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...exico#airpower

    The U.S. Marines and Navy in San Diego County, CA. have more weapons than the whole country of Mexico.
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    Mexico will not detain migrants at US border: president




    Yemeli ORTEGA, with Herika MARTINEZ PRADO in Ciudad Juarez

    ,AFPJune 25, 2019


















    Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, an anti-establishment leftist who came to office vowing to protect migrants' rights, has been pushed into a more hardline stance by US President Donald Trump (AFP Photo/ALFREDO ESTRELLA)
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    Mexico City (AFP) - Mexico's president vowed Tuesday to investigate the controversial detention of migrants trying to cross the US border, saying the 15,000 troops he has deployed there have no such orders.
    President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, a leftist who took office in December vowing to protect migrants' rights, has come under fire over an AFP journalist's images last week of heavily armed National Guardsmen forcibly detaining two women and a girl at the Rio Grande river, across from El Paso, Texas.
    International law protects the right of undocumented migrants to cross borders to seek asylum, and Mexico had not typically stopped them from doing so at its northern border.
    However, Lopez Obrador is facing pressure from US President Donald Trump to slow a surge of Central American migrants, and his government is eager to show results and avoid the punitive tariffs the US president threatened last month to impose on Mexican goods.
    Facing a backlash at home, the leader known as "AMLO" denied the National Guard and army were under orders to stop migrants fleeing violence and poverty from crossing the US border.
    "No such order has been issued, and we are going to review that case, so that it doesn't happen again, because that's not our job," he told a news conference.
    - Mixed signals -
    That statement contradicted what Lopez Obrador's own defense minister said Monday in a joint news conference with the president.
    Asked whether Mexican forces were detaining migrants to prevent them from crossing the northern border, Defense Minister Luis Cresencio Sandoval replied: "Yes."
    National Guardsmen interviewed Monday by AFP in Ciudad Juarez, across from El Paso, confirmed their superiors had instructed them to stop migrants from crossing the border.
    "They tell us we're not detaining enough, that migration levels are the same," said one, speaking on condition of anonymity.
    "When they saw the photo (of the migrant detention), they told us we can't touch the migrants. But at the same time, they order us to detain them and produce results," he added.
    Another told AFP the detained migrants sometimes cry and beg to be released.
    "But I can't do that. They'll punish me if I do that. I have to (detain them) to do my job, to finish my deployment here and see my family again soon."
    - 'Freedom! Freedom!' -
    Mexico dodged Trump's tariff threat by agreeing to reinforce its southern border with 6,000 National Guardsmen and expand its policy of taking back migrants while the US processes their asylum claims.
    The deal, reached on June 7, gives Mexico 45 days to show results.
    Initially, Lopez Obrador created the National Guard -- a new force that is still being set up -- for an entirely different purpose: to fight drug cartels and curb rising levels of violence.
    The force's mission creep has caused controversy in Mexico.
    "What's happening in terms of migration policy is a disgrace -- the absence of a plan, the improvisation, the lack of a strategy," said researcher Javier Urbano of the Iberoamerican University, underlining that the National Guard "are trained to fight organized crime."
    Using the new force to curb migration will just push migrants to seek out "more dangerous, more remote routes" and give human traffickers more business, he told AFP.
    As if to make that point, Mexican media published a haunting photograph of the bodies of a Salvadoran man and his two-year-old daughter who drowned trying to cross the Rio Grande on Sunday.
    Four more migrants from Guatemala died of apparent heat exhaustion and dehydration trying to cross the border in the desert, officials said Monday.
    Highlighting migrants' mounting frustration with Mexico's crackdown, hundreds of Haitian, African and Asian migrants protested at the Century XXI detention center in the southern state of Chiapas, where they are being held, shouting "Freedom! Freedom!" and trying to escape.
    National Guardsmen managed to contain the protest.

    https://news.yahoo.com/mexico-not-de...214139668.html

    They're there to do NOTHING!!!!!









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    TIME FOR WAR ON OUR BORDER!

    THIS MUST STOP!!!

    NO HEADS ON BEDS...PUT THEIR BUTTS ON BUSES BACK HOME!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    If we want the border to be secured, we should be doing it ourselves and not relying on a corrupt narco state who has a long history of being hostile toward us to do it for us. This BS is just for show, don't let Trump fool you. Mexico is giving the appearance that they will do something, but ultimate won't. Trump needs this to fool the idiots in his base and give them the appearance that he's doing something when he isn't.
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    Mexico will let these rats pile up in the thousands and then unleash them over our border!

    Do not trust them!

    Turn them all away NOW...send them the message you will NOT step foot on our soil and stay here!

    CATCH AND DEPORT ON BARGES!
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    Thousands more National Guard troops to arrive in Tijuana

    Human rights activist Hugo Castro snapped this photo with his cell phone documenting Mexican military troops and immigration authorities detaining a couple from Central America at Las Playas on Monday, June 24.
    (Courtesy of Hugo Castro, a human rights activist. )


    Mexico is deploying 15,000 troops along entire northern border with the United States

    By WENDY FRY

    JUNE 25, 2019
    6:38 PM


    Tijuana, Baja California — Thousands more National Guard troops are scheduled to arrive in Tijuana on Friday to take unprecedented steps in securing Mexico’s northern border and preventing migrants from crossing into the United States.
    On Monday, Mexican army troops removed two migrants from Las Playas where other migrants have clashed with U.S. border agents in recent months. The troops, along with Mexico’s immigration agency, checked identification for people gathered near the Tijuana beach, according to a video recorded by human rights activist Hugo Castro.
    Apoelnar Botello said he was among those whose ID was checked by military troops.
    “They told me I can’t be this close to the border wall because I don’t have documents or permits. At one point, they told me I can’t be on the beach. What kind of documents do you need to stand on the beach?” he asked.

    Botello said he has a business in San Diego, remodeling kitchens and bathrooms, but he went home to Puebla in southeast Mexico to visit family. He admitted he was eyeing the porous fence near Playas and considering crossing back into the United States illegally by swimming around the fence that extends about 30 yards into the ocean.
    The increased military presence has made him decide to look for another place to cross, he said.
    “It’s too hot here right now,” he said referring to the increased patrols of police and military near the beach. “It’s necessary (to cross) because I have family on the other side and I’m the one who works provides for my family.”
    Human rights activists and attorneys say the deal struck between the United States and Mexico for migrants to wait in Mexico while their asylum claims are processed could run afoul of some people’s legal rights.

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    U.S. authorities say migrants are abusing the system meant to protect people from persecution in order to improve their economic situation.
    Since October, record-breaking numbers of migrants have traveled in caravans across Mexico trying to reach the United States to claim asylum, causing tense diplomatic relations between the two nations. Many of the mostly Central American migrants said they fled violence caused by government corruption, poverty and gangs.
    President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is facing intense pressure from the Trump administration, such as threats of crippling tariffs, to reduce the flow of migrants who reach the United States border.
    The countries struck a deal to avoid U.S.-imposed tariffs that included Mexico securing its southern border and hosting all migrants as they wait for a decision on their U.S. asylum cases. But now, Mexico is volunteering to do more to prevent people from crossing into the United States by strengthening its northern border.
    Mexican Defense Minister Luis Cresencio Sandoval González announced Monday troops and members of the country’s newly-formed National Guard — made of military police, the Navy, the Army and federal police — will also be deployed along the entire stretch of Mexico’s northern border with the United States from Tijuana, Baja California to Matamoros, Tamaulipas.
    Baja California’s incoming governor, Jaime Bonilla, said he met Tuesday with federal police, federal migration officials and local Tijuana leaders to go over protocol for the arrival Friday of more National Guard troops and to secure resources from the federal government to shelter migrants while they wait.
    “We are organizing so that when the migrants are returned, they do not cause any inconvenience to the population of Tijuana, Mexicali or at any other point in the state,” said Bonilla. He said the troops will also address safety in Tijuana where homicides caused by the local drug trade reached all-time highs last year.
    Some National Guard troops were already sent to Tijuana earlier in the year to try to stem the increasing violence.

    Experts say Mexico has never before deployed so many troops to engage in migration enforcement, and historically, the country has resisted U.S. demands to seal its northern border.
    When López Obrador was elected last summer, he even vowed in his victory speech in Tijuana that Mexico would no longer do the “dirty work” of enforcing U.S. immigration policies, which he had called “arrogant, racist and inhumane” on the campaign trail.
    His defense minister, Sandoval, said the National Guard and army units totaled between 14,000 and 15,000 men deployed in the northern part of the country. Bonilla did not have an exact count on how many of those troops would arrive in Tijuana or Baja California, but he said the region was the highest priority to secure.
    Sandoval said the National Guard would prevent people from crossing into the United States, but other protocols for processing and sheltering migrants would be handled by different agencies.
    “We only stop them,” he said, elaborating that migrants without papers will be handed over to the National Institute of Migration “considering that migration is not a crime, it is an administrative fault.”
    “We put them at the disposal of the authorities to do their normal procedure that must be done or the authorities will determine what will be developed in the future for these migrants,” Sandoval said.
    Meanwhile, López Obrador acknowledged Tuesday the National Guard already may have committed some “excesses” in their attempts to control migrants near the southern border and vowed to investigate all reported violent incidents.
    “There may be these excesses, but the instruction they all have is that human rights are respected, and that will continue,” he said. “If there were cases, it is not the instruction they have. It is a job that, in any case, corresponds to the migration agents, not the army.”

    Attorney Nicole Ramos is the director of the Border Rights Projects for Al Otro Lado, a Los Angeles-based legal aid organization. She provides legal orientation and know-your-rights training to asylum seekers stuck in Tijuana, a dangerous border-city with skyrocketing drug violence.
    She said returning asylum seekers to Tijuana could violate international law in some cases.
    “International law protects against ... the return of asylum seekers to a territory where they fear persecution,” Ramos said. “Further, any government deploying armed forces to stop asylum seekers from accessing safety has lost sight of its moral compass.”
    As Tijuana braced for more troops, the political fallout continued from yesterday’s chaotic developments in Washington and at the border.
    Some Democratic presidential contenders addressed the immigration crisis ahead of Wednesday night’s debate in Miami.
    One of them, Elizabeth Warren, visited the Homestead detention facility on Wednesday, and denounced the conditions in which migrant children were being held. Standing on a step ladder alongside the “witnesses” who have been stationed on a roadside patch across from the facility, Warren said she could glimpse some of the children held in its institutional dormitories and tent shelters.
    “These were children being led like soldiers, like little prisoners from one place to another,” Warren said. “This is not what we should be doing as a country.”
    The Homestead facility, the largest detention center for migrant children, and one that is operated by a private corporation, is becoming an essential stop for Democratic candidates this week.
    Several other candidates had already dropped by or were planning to by the end of the week, including California Sen. Kamala Harris, who will be there on Friday.
    “We just hope it is not a flash and it is a spotlight, that this isn’t just today because this is today’s issue, but a spotlight that is going to be hot enough and bright enough until this place wilts and dies and we never have to witness anything like this again,” said Joshua Rubin, a 67-year-old software developer from Brooklyn who has been one of the lead organizers of the protests.
    Before Homestead, Rubin had been organizing protests at the now-closed Tornillo detention center in Texas. He decided to drive out there one day in his RV and park himself across the street and begin witnessing and reporting what he saw from outside the fences. Others would eventually join him.
    Three months after Rubin began showing up at the Texas facility daily it shut down.
    “I started getting emails,” he said. “People were saying, ‘You’ve got to get to Homestead. It is worse.’”
    The Trump campaign on Wednesday sent reporters its take on all the attention Democrats are directing toward Homestead. It accused the candidates of “hypocrisy” and noted that children have been detained at Homestead since Joe Biden was vice president, and pointed out that Democratic lawmakers and journalists were allowed inside four months ago.
    Los Angeles Times staff writer Evan Halper contributed to this report.
    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ing-u-s-border






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