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    Iowa Cruz backer Steve Deace apologizes for 'full vagina' tweet

    Iowa Cruz backer Steve Deace apologizes for 'full vagina' tweet
    Jennifer Jacobs, jejacobs@dmreg.com 4:34 p.m. CST
    December 16, 2015

    The "full vagina" comment by Iowa's Steve Deace, a religious conservative radio talk show host who has endorsed Ted Cruz in the GOP presidential race, is catching attention online.

    "Wow...Fiorina goes full vagina right away," Deace, a West Des Moines resident whose radio show is nationally syndicated, said on Twitter Tuesday night after Carly Fiorina's remarks at the beginning of the GOP debate in Las Vegas.

    When someone replied "disgusting comment," Deace fired back: "Completely agree. I think a GOP presidential candidate's opening statement being all about her gender is disgusting."

    Fiorina, a former CEO of Hewlett-Packard technology company, in her opening statement threw a not-so-subtle dart at GOP front-runner Donald Trump for his "bombastic insults," and said she has been called the "b-word" throughout her career.

    Her full statement: "Like all of you I'm angry. I'm angry at what's happening to our nation. Citizens, it's time to take our country back. Bombastic insults won't take it back. Political rhetoric that promises a lot and delivers little won't take it back. All of our problems can be solved. All of our wounds can be healed by a tested leader who is willing to fight for the character of our nation. I have been tested. I have beaten breast cancer. I have buried a child. I started as a secretary. I fought my way to the top of Corporate America while being called every B word in the book. I fought my way into this election and on to this debate stage while all the political insiders and the pundits told, 'it couldn't be done.' I've been told 'no' all my life. And all my life, I've refused to accept no as an answer. Citizens, it is time to take our country back from the political class, from the media, from the liberal elite. It can be done, it must be done, join me and we will get it done."

    Deace's next tweet was some mild criticism for his own candidate. "So-so opening by Cruz. Rubio's was like his cliches greatest hits," he said.

    When someone tweeted back at Deace that "I personally like vaginas," he answered: "Love them myself. Ask @amydeace."

    But his wife, Amy, apparently didn't love her husband's Fiorina "vagina" retort.

    "@amydeace tells me while on point about Carly and gender card I was too vulgar and need to apologize. And my wife is ALWAYS right. So I do," he tweeted.

    Someone asked if he'd clarify his statement or leave it "to out u as the misogynist u are."

    Deace said there was nothing to clarify. "It was needlessly vulgar," he said.

    His original tweet was quickly favorited dozens of times (67 times as of Wednesday morning), and assailed by those who found it offensive.

    "The only people who think I hate women are folks in favor of killing them before they're born. ," he wrote later, referring to those who favor abortion rights. Deace is staunchly opposed to abortion and Cruz's "unwavering" stance on the issue is one of the reasons Deace endorsed him.

    When Iowa religious conservative leader Bob Vander Plaats endorsed Cruz this month, he noted how rare it was for three of the best-known conservative influencers in Iowa to go with one candidate. He was referring to Deace, who endorsed in August, and U.S. Rep. Steve King, who publicly backed Cruz in November.


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    Oh, so these endorsements weren't about fixing our country, putting Americans back to work, securing our nation, fixing our economy or helping our people, they were all about killing abortions rights and forcing pregnant girls and women into childbirth against their will so they can sign up for Medicaid, Food Stamps, Low Income Housing, WIC, TANF, Free School Lunch and etc., etc., etc. and continue to run up the national debt paying for it.

    Well, that won't win the White House and now that I know what was behind these "endorsements", I don't believe it will even win Iowa on Caucus Day.

    I'm proud of Trump for not going to Bob Vander Plaats "Family Leader" forum which an article I read quoted Vander Plaats as saying Trump's non-attendance at the forum ruled him out of even being considered for an endorsement.

    Steve Deace is a crude pervert. I'm no fan of Carly as you know, but that's white trash talk of the lowest caliber against women.

    I wonder if Cruz's wife and daughters are still so proud of that "endorsement"? I guess so!
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    Judy wrote:

    I wonder if Cruz's wife and daughters are still so proud of that "endorsement"? I guess so!
    I think your comment about Cruz's wife and daughters being proud of that endorsement is disgusting. Why would you say such a thing? Must you climb down to the same level as Steve Deace in you continuous thrashings of Cruz? You're better than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Judy wrote:

    I think your comment about Cruz's wife and daughters being proud of that endorsement is disgusting. Why would you say such a thing? Must you climb down to the same level as Steve Deace in you continuous thrashings of Cruz? You're better than that.
    What do you find disgusting about asking if Cruz's wife and daughters are proud of this endorsement? The ABC article I posted quotes the campaign bragging about this endorsement and claims they competed vigorously for it. Here, I'll post it for you:

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    Ted Cruz Secures Trifecta of Key Iowa Endorsements

    By Josh Haskell
    JESSICA HOPPER

    Dec 10, 2015, 1:40 PM ET

    Ted Cruz secured the support of prominent evangelical Bob Vander Plaats, head of the Family Leader, giving Cruz a trifecta of important endorsements in Iowa that show that social conservatives are coalescing around the presidential candidate.

    Vander Plaats made the announcement in Des Moines, Iowa, today calling Cruz a man of "deep character" who is "competent" and has the campaign infrastructure to go the distance in the presidential race.

    "I happen to believe that the extraordinary leader that we need for these extraordinary times is U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz," said Vander Plaats, who touted Cruz's campaign staff as well as his resources.

    "As you’ve seen in the polls, he’s beginning to rise. Not only will he be really, really strong here in Iowa, we believe he will be strong in the early states and we believe he can be the nominee to take on and defeat Hillary Clinton and the leftist agenda," Vander Plaats said.

    In Iowa, Cruz and Donald Trump appear to be vying for the top spot. A Monmouth University poll shows Cruz with a slight lead over Trump while a CNN/ORC poll shows Trump leading Cruz by 13 points. A CBS/NYT national poll released today shows Cruz in second place behind Trump.

    The support of Vander Plaats follows the endorsement of Rep. Steve King, one of the most prominent conservative politicians in Iowa, and conservative radio host Steve Deace. Iowa insiders say that trio of endorsements gives Cruz a powerful surge among social conservatives and evangelicals, a key group that Cruz is working to appeal to both in Iowa and nationally.

    "Ted Cruz getting that with the combination of Steve King’s endorsement really does give it a multiplier effect," said Rick Schwarm, former chairman of the Iowa Republican Party.

    Several conservatives courted the endorsement of Vander Plaats, most recently at a presidential forum in November hosted by the Family Leader. At that event, Cruz got a rousing applause and the number of supporters hoping to hear and talk to the Texas senator overfilled a room.

    Schwarm said that the endorsement of Vander Plaats coupled with the support of King and Deace shows that “social conservatives are now going to support Ted Cruz and show up on caucus night.”

    The Cruz campaign has long touted its ground game in the Hawkeye state.

    "Our ground game in Iowa continues to exceed that of our opponents. Not only have we secured the endorsements of prominent conservatives across the state of Iowa including Bob Vander Plaats, Steve King and Steve Deace, we have nearly 3,000 volunteers working with 99 county chairmen and a terrific leadership team," said Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler. "While others are running their campaigns on television, we have been building a grassroots army and we are about to unleash that army to help us secure victory in Iowa on Feb. 1."

    Part of that army includes "Camp Cruz," a rented dormitory the campaign is using in Iowa to host volunteers from across the nation that they're calling a "Cruz Crew Strike Force."

    It "will be occupied for the duration until the Feb. 1 caucus with over 500 volunteers mostly from Texas and to help get out the vote for Senator Cruz," said Tyler.

    In Iowa, Cruz has competed most vigorously for the support of evangelicals and social conservative with Dr. Ben Carson. Today's endorsement probably hurts Carson the most, Schwarm said.

    "Ben Carson was doing remarkably well, but the fact that Ted Cruz is getting this says we like Carson, but Cruz is our guy. So it hurts him a lot. It probably keeps the momentum going down for him. People still like and respect him, but they’re probably not going to vote for him,” Schwarm said.
    MW, I don't know what's wrong with you, but do not address me again on this forum.

    Cruz is so proud of it, they mention Steve Deace 3 times in one article.
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    Judy wrote:

    MW, I don't know what's wrong with you, but do not address me again on this forum.
    You don't get to decide that. You tend to make a lot of outlandish comments at times that need challenged.

    Here is what you said:

    I wonder if Cruz's wife and daughters are still so proud of that "endorsement"? I guess so!

    You have absolutely no way of knowing how Cruz's wife our daughters feel. For goodness sakes, his children are too young to even have an opinion one way or the other, much less support an endorsement! Perhaps you shouldn't make such outlandish comments if you're not prepared to be challenged on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    You don't get to decide that. You tend to make a lot of outlandish comments at times that need challenged.

    You have absolutely no way of knowing how Cruz's wife our daughters feel. For goodness sakes, his children are too young to even have an opinion one way or the other, much less support an endorsement! Perhaps you shouldn't make such outlandish comments if you're not prepared to be challenged on them.
    Okay, if you think the girls don't understand what it means when Cruz has been endorsed by big shots in Iowa to help him win, do you think his wife is old enough and sophisticated enough to know what it means to get a big endorsement from a big radio star? I mean she does work for Goldman Sachs, advised the Council on Foreign Relations, worked for the GW Bush administration as did Ted Cruz. You knew they both worked for Bush, right?

    In 2003, she worked for the Bush administration on economic policy.[1][19] Eventually becoming the director for the Western Hemisphere on the National Security Council under National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice in 2003.[1][8][15] She left Washington DC in 2004 to support her husband's run for elective office in Texas.[20] In 2005, she joined Goldman Sachs and is currently the Region Head for the Southwest Region in the Investment Management Division of Goldman Sachs in Houston.[1][8][21] She took a leave of absence without pay for her husband's 2016 presidential campaign.[20]
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    Council on Foreign Relations - Heidi Cruz per Ted Cruz - Watch him on the defensive "Opponents attacking my wife"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiFKtC6a9do

    All the man asked him was "is it true that your wife is on the Council on Foreign Relations"

    Ted, when you are "standing up and fighting for US sovereignty", YOU DO NOT SUPPORT LEGALIZATION FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS AND YOU DO NOT SUPPORT AND PROMOTE FREE TRADE TREASON AGREEMENTS. It's very simple how to protect US sovereignty, you don't promote or support actions that threaten it with bad trade, world courts, WTO, massive immigration or starting wars.

    The more I think about this Goldman-Sachs connection the more interested I am! Lets see, Heidi in Houston with Golden-Sachs in 2005. 2008 Big Bail Out Bill at taxpayers expense. Goldman Sachs selected as special winner of the deal. So, gee, Ted, it seems to me that your wife's job at Goldman-Sachs survived because US taxpayers bailed out her employer.

    And what about you, Ted? Oh yeah, that's right, you've been on the public dole your entire career but you want to be in the US Senate and start putting other people off the dole while you engage in race for a big promotion, free rent, and a big raise courtesy of US taxpayers.

    I think the American People need someone with a much broader private sector free of government, enterprise background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Okay, if you think the girls don't understand what it means when Cruz has been endorsed by big shots in Iowa to help him win, do you think his wife is old enough and sophisticated enough to know what it means to get a big endorsement from a big radio star? I mean she does work for Goldman Sachs, advised the Council on Foreign Relations, worked for the GW Bush administration as did Ted Cruz. You knew they both worked for Bush, right?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Cruz

    Council on Foreign Relations - Heidi Cruz per Ted Cruz - Watch him on the defensive "Opponents attacking my wife"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiFKtC6a9do

    All the man asked him was "is it true that your wife is on the Council on Foreign Relations"

    Ted, when you are "standing up and fighting for US sovereignty", YOU DO NOT SUPPORT LEGALIZATION FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS AND YOU DO NOT SUPPORT AND PROMOTE FREE TRADE TREASON AGREEMENTS. It's very simple how to protect US sovereignty, you don't promote or support actions that threaten it with bad trade, world courts, WTO, massive immigration or starting wars.

    The more I think about this Goldman-Sachs connection the more interested I am! Lets see, Heidi in Houston with Golden-Sachs in 2005. 2008 Big Bail Out Bill at taxpayers expense. Goldman Sachs selected as special winner of the deal. So, gee, Ted, it seems to me that your wife's job at Goldman-Sachs survived because US taxpayers bailed out her employer.

    And what about you, Ted? Oh yeah, that's right, you've been on the public dole your entire career but you want to be in the US Senate and start putting other people off the dole while you engage in race for a big promotion, free rent, and a big raise courtesy of US taxpayers.

    I think the American People need someone with a much broader private sector free of government, enterprise background.
    There you go again, more outlandish comments that have very little relevance to your original claim.

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    I wonder if Cruz's wife and daughters are still so proud of that "endorsement"? I guess so!
    Like I said, his daughters are too young to have an opinion. As for his wife, did you personally ask her opinion after Deace said what he did? Hmm, are we to assume you did since you said "I guess so!"

    You excessive, and not so veiled, attacks on Cruz (and his family in this case) are not very becoming (IMO). If you've got a legitimate beef, that's fine, and I'm eager to hear it. However, this stuff of a personal nature that is very opinionated is just minuscule and not really worthy of our attention, don't you agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    There you go again, more outlandish comments that have very little relevance to your original claim.

    You wrote:



    Like I said, his daughters are too young to have an opinion. As for his wife, did you personally ask her opinion after Deace said what he did? Hmm, are we to assume you did since you said "I guess so!"

    You excessive, and not so veiled, attacks on Cruz (and his family in this case) are not very becoming (IMO). If you've got a legitimate beef, that's fine, and I'm eager to hear it. However, this stuff of a personal nature that is very opinionated is just minuscule and not really worthy of our attention, don't you agree?
    LOL!! I'm posting for the benefit of the 1,300 or so "guests" and of course members who are interested in the information or viewpoint. I hope that doesn't hurt your feelings. I don't blog to be friends or have conversations, MW. I'm an activist and I post with a purpose. I want to see an end to free trade treason, illegal immigration and excess immigration and I don't believe someone who has now voted for free trade treason agreements, testified under oath to give permanent legal status to 30 million illegal aliens, introduced bills into Congress that would double the number of green cards issued annually from 675,000 to 1.3 million and increase H1B visas 500% from 65,000 to over 300,000 a year is someone who could or would do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    LOL!! I'm posting for the benefit of the 1,300 or so "guests" and of course members who are interested in the information or viewpoint. I hope that doesn't hurt your feelings. I don't blog to be friends or have conversations, MW. I'm an activist and I post with a purpose. I want to see an end to free trade treason, illegal immigration and excess immigration and I don't believe someone who has now voted for free trade treason agreements, testified under oath to give permanent legal status to 30 million illegal aliens, introduced bills into Congress that would double the number of green cards issued annually from 675,000 to 1.3 million and increase H1B visas 500% from 65,000 to over 300,000 a year is someone who could or would do that.
    Yes, and your purpose is to discredit Cruz in the hopes that it will help Trump. Anyone that has followed your posts know this. Many of those 13,000 guests you're talking about happen to support Cruz as their #1 or #2 choice. I just hope you realize that. Constantly attacking the way you do by pounding the same information over and over again is probably a big turn off for many of them. Anyway, I know it is for me. In other words, I don't think your methods are working very well.

    FYI: Trump is currently my #1 choice and Cruz my #2. Although, thanks to you, I'm subject to change my mind because your antics are making me take a closer look at both candidates. While there is a lot to like about both, Trump & Cruz, there are also negatives. Trump is not without faults, but I never hear you speak of those. But you attack Cruz like he's the devil in a tie and that's just not true. Personally, I think both candidates are head and shoulders above the other presidential contenders. That's why I'm not going to attempt to destroy one to benefit the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Yes, and your purpose is to discredit Cruz in the hopes that it will help Trump. Anyone that has followed your posts know this. Many of those 13,000 guests you're talking about happen to support Cruz as their #1 or #2 choice. I just hope you realize that. Constantly attacking the way you do by pounding the same information over and over again is probably a big turn off for many of them. Anyway, I know it is for me. In other words, I don't think your methods are working very well.

    FYI: Trump is currently my #1 choice and Cruz my #2. Although, thanks to you, I'm subject to change my mind because your antics are making me take a closer look at both candidates. While there is a lot to like about both, Trump & Cruz, there are also negatives. Trump is not without faults, but I never hear you speak of those. But you attack Cruz like he's the devil in a tie and that's just not true. Personally, I think both candidates are head and shoulders above the other presidential contenders. That's why I'm not going to attempt to destroy one to benefit the other.
    I held up supporting Trump for 2 reasons and criticized him for both of them. He's changed from pro-choice to pro-life with exceptions at least in his personal view, and although he likes the FairTax, his tax plan is a revision of the income tax code instead of the FairTax. So for me, those are disappointments. I also opposed letting any illegal aliens who were deported back into the country, and spoke out about that. But then each time he was questioned about it, he tightened the belt, then I realized what he was doing and why, and set that aside, because under current law he can't do it anyway, so it was just "management". Otherwise, he does so well on the other issues of immigration, trade, economy, foreign policy, national security and management, I'm all-in to win. It's like southbronx says, Trump will do the right thing, so I'm:

    TRUMP TRUMP AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUMP!

    STAY TRUE!! STAY TRUMP!!

    Come on Iowans, please do your best to get to the Caucuses and Caucus for Trump, so he can win Iowa HUUUGE, and be on his way to Run The Table!!
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