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    Whew, that's a hard one, MW. I'll say by 5.
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    I think 5-7 votes, i see a major bail on the Amnesty Bill, from what i see it looks really bad, Remember all America is up in arms right now.
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    Reciprocity wrote:

    I think 5-7 votes, i see a major bail on the Amnesty Bill, from what i see it looks really bad, Remember all America is up in arms right now.
    Awe come on, make a choice. Is it 5, 6, or 7?

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    OK, let me make a complete fool of myself and offer my set of predictions for cloture tomorrow.

    I've include a list below - for each senator, there is (on the same line) a Yea or Nay indicating that senator's last vote on cloture; followed by my prediction for tomorrow's cloture vote. Let's see how close this ends up...

    My overall prediction: Fails: Yes: 58, No: 41 (60 votes needed)


    Grouped by Home State

    Alabama:
    Sessions (R-AL), Nay, NO
    Shelby (R-AL), Nay, NO

    Alaska:
    Murkowski (R-AK), Nay, Yes
    Stevens (R-AK), Nay, Yes

    Arizona:
    Kyl (R-AZ), Nay, Yes
    McCain (R-AZ), Yea, Yes

    Arkansas:
    Lincoln (D-AR), Yea, Yes
    Pryor (D-AR), Nay, NO

    California:
    Boxer (D-CA), Nay, Yes
    Feinstein (D-CA), Yea, Yes

    Colorado:
    Allard (R-CO), Nay, No
    Salazar (D-CO), Yea, Yes

    Connecticut:
    Dodd (D-CT), Yea, Yes
    Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea, Yes

    Delaware:
    Biden (D-DE), Yea, Yes
    Carper (D-DE), Yea, Yes

    Florida:
    Martinez (R-FL), Yea, Yes
    Nelson (D-FL), Yea, Yes

    Georgia:
    Chambliss (R-GA), Nay, NO
    Isakson (R-GA), Nay, NO

    Hawaii:
    Akaka (D-HI), Yea, Yes
    Inouye (D-HI), Yea, Yes

    Idaho:
    Craig (R-ID), Nay, Yes
    Crapo (R-ID), Nay, NO

    Illinois:
    Durbin (D-IL), Yea, Yes
    Obama (D-IL), Yea, Yes

    Indiana:
    Bayh (D-IN), Yea, No
    Lugar (R-IN), Yea, Yes

    Iowa:
    Grassley (R-IA), Nay, No
    Harkin (D-IA), Yea, Yes

    Kansas:
    Brownback (R-KS), Not Voting, Yes
    Roberts (R-KS), Nay, NO

    Kentucky:
    Bunning (R-KY), Nay, NO
    McConnell (R-KY), Nay, Yes

    Louisiana:
    Landrieu (D-LA), Nay, NO
    Vitter (R-LA), Nay, NO

    Maine:
    Collins (R-ME), Nay, Yes
    Snowe (R-ME), Nay, Yes

    Maryland:
    Cardin (D-MD), Yea, Yes
    Mikulski (D-MD), Yea Yes

    Massachusetts:
    Kennedy (D-MA), Yea, Yes
    Kerry (D-MA), Yea, Yes

    Michigan:
    Levin (D-MI), Yea, Yes
    Stabenow (D-MI), Yea, No

    Minnesota:
    Coleman (R-MN), Nay, Yes
    Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea, Yes

    Mississippi:
    Cochran (R-MS), Nay, No
    Lott (R-MS), Nay, Yes

    Missouri:
    Bond (R-MO), Nay, No
    McCaskill (D-MO), Nay, No

    Montana:
    Baucus (D-MT), Nay, No
    Tester (D-MT), Nay, No

    Nebraska:
    Hagel (R-NE), Yea, Yes
    Nelson (D-NE), Yea, Yes

    Nevada:
    Ensign (R-NV), Nay, No
    Reid (D-NV), Yea, Yes

    New Hampshire:
    Gregg (R-NH), Nay, Yes
    Sununu (R-NH), Nay, No

    New Jersey:
    Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea, Yes
    Menendez (D-NJ), Yea, NO

    New Mexico:
    Bingaman (D-NM), Nay, Yes
    Domenici (R-NM), Nay, No

    New York:
    Clinton (D-NY), Yea, Yes
    Schumer (D-NY), Yea, Yes

    North Carolina:
    Burr (R-NC), Nay, Yes
    Dole (R-NC), Nay, No

    North Dakota:
    Conrad (D-ND), Yea, Yes
    Dorgan (D-ND), Nay, No

    Ohio:
    Brown (D-OH), Yea, Yes
    Voinovich (R-OH), Yea, Yes

    Oklahoma:
    Coburn (R-OK), Not Voting, NO
    Inhofe (R-OK), Nay, NO

    Oregon:
    Smith (R-OR), Nay, NO
    Wyden (D-OR), Yea, Yes

    Pennsylvania:
    Casey (D-PA), Yea, Yes
    Specter (R-PA), Yea, Yes

    Rhode Island:
    Reed (D-RI), Yea, Yes
    Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea, Yes

    South Carolina:
    DeMint (R-SC), Nay, No
    Graham (R-SC), Yea, Yes

    South Dakota:
    Johnson (D-SD), Not Voting, NV
    Thune (R-SD), Nay, NO

    Tennessee:
    Alexander (R-TN), Nay, NO
    Corker (R-TN), Nay, NO

    Texas:
    Cornyn (R-TX), Nay, NO
    Hutchison (R-TX), Nay, NO

    Utah:
    Bennett (R-UT), Nay, Yes
    Hatch (R-UT), Nay, NO

    Vermont:
    Leahy (D-VT), Yea, Yes
    Sanders (I-VT), Nay, NO

    Virginia:
    Warner (R-VA), Nay, Yes
    Webb (D-VA), Nay, NO

    Washington:
    Cantwell (D-WA), Yea, Yes
    Murray (D-WA), Yea, Yes

    West Virginia:
    Byrd (D-WV), Nay, NO
    Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay, NO

    Wisconsin:
    Feingold (D-WI), Yea, Yes
    Kohl (D-WI), Yea, Yes

    Wyoming:
    Enzi (R-WY), Not Voting, NO
    Barrasso (R-WY), (NV), NO
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    Here's the ones I disagree with you on, PhredE:

    Murkowski (R-AK), Nay, Yes
    Stevens (R-AK), Nay, Yes
    Brownback (R-KS), Not Voting, Yes
    McConnell (R-KY), Nay, Yes (I'm going way out on a limb here)
    Burr (R-NC), Nay, Yes
    Bennett (R-UT), Nay, Yes

    Got to stay optimistic and get the 7 that I predicted:

    Boxer (D-CA), Nay, Yes
    Snowe (R-ME), Nay, Yes
    Coleman (R-MN), Nay, Yes

    I hoping the process today totally pissed off a lot of Republicans.

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    BTTT

    Come on folks, make your guess. Someones got to win.

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    MW - I honestly hope you are correct or more correct than me.

    Yes, that's a good point about the rather ugly and unprecedented set of interchanges that took place today - especially among the non-believing Republicans and the MOTU (Masters of the Universe) group.

    ...See what happens...
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    I liked Sessions speech at the end of debate today..I think he might have woke up some of those idiots...my vote we win by 3
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    Looks like some of you were right on!!!!! Way to go
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    PhredE wrote:

    MW - I honestly hope you are correct or more correct than me.
    I was more correct than you.

    Hey, I even got McConnell right. Seriously, I didn't think he'd want to face his voters next year with a "yea" vote on this cloture!

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