Thread: Beer

Originally Posted by Emiliano

I read on another website that sales of beer kegs and pornography have tripled in Southern Arizona during the last 24 hours. Can anyone verify this?

Those damn illegals will stop at nothing. First, they want my job. Now, they want my beer.

Sorry, but that is why we have gotten to the point we are now. Poltical correctness. I was not directing my comment at any "ethnical group". I am saying if anyone breaks into my home, and I do not care if they are purple, I will defend my family! This has nothing to do with illegal issue actually.

I just sent an email to the Guardian! Jerks! I remember them interfering in the elections (maybe I should have listened). The point is, this is OUR problem, not theirs and I am sick of their crap.

Ok, I will leave it at that. I am 49, my father is a WW II vet, and it angers me to think of all the men and women that have and still are fighting for a country that is being betrayed by our own president! I still remember and will never forget 9/11! I cannot help but think about what all the people that died would be feeling now! I guess I have a problem with empathy. Something we are lacking these days for our own!

I am not going to apologize for the obvious!

I am not asking or expecting you to apologize for anything. You have done nothing to apologize for. I agree with how you feel, completely... but when we are trying to accomplish political goals.. we gotta play the game.

Take it from someone who has played the game plenty of times on local and state issues. I AM ON YOUR SIDE.

Just remember, image IS what is going to determine how this shakes out.

My Pappy always told me that when I was pissed off, it is better if I write what I want to write, but put it in the drawer, and read it again in the morning with a cooler head. We often say things while pissed that we wish we had simply phrased better. I do not always do a good job of remembering that (understatement).. but when I did, it paid off. What we are doing now is so important we HAVE to remember it.

ohflyingone .. you've gotten off on a little rant .. let's keep a lid on those rants ... we are all steamed about the immigration situation .. but we (ALIPAC) do not in any way condone anything other than LEGAL means to resolve the situation .. please keep your posts in that vein and in that vein only from hence forward .... refer to forum rules if you have any questions and let's stick to the high road on the issue

Hint: posters who go off on rants and tirades about inciting violence are subject to scrutiny and possible banning by Mr. Gheen .. we do NOT want our cause muddied by those who want to draw outside the box .. if you are with us, stay in the box please!

Having just returned from Minuteman, I know what's happening there. I can authoritatively say that Emiliano is either totally misinformed or lying, meaning that he makes statements without checking his facts or intentionally lies to people.

An out-of-town Minuteman rode along with me, and I delivered him to the Bible College where he's staying with many other MMP participants. I witnessed his registration with the Bible College owner, who spelled out the rules very clearly. It's a Christian facility, so no alcohol or drugs on the grounds. And porn is obviously out of the question.

I saw and heard this personally, Emiliano. That certainly trumps your "rumor" that you likely made up.

So now I've done everyone a service and exposed your misinformation and/or lies publicly, enabling everyone to recognize your other comments. That includes the tall tale about El Salvador.

Emiliano, we've learned in dealing with the "pro-illegal alien" groups that liars continue to lie. So if someone lies once (or passes misinformation once), they will continue in the future.

A "Heads Up" to all--Emiliano has been proven false. Believe him at your own risk!

Welcome and GREAT POST LovelyDay!

You see folks, I told ya that Emiliano would be good political practice!

That is how you defeat an OBL. Not with anger, not by deleting them but with calm facts! They will attack you. They will bait you, but the truth and facts are on our side.

Everyone here needs to practice their tactics and messages. We could ban any OBL that comes here but they would still be out there where the real fight awaits us.

The Emilianos that come here will be used for training of our activists.

Fighting with an OBL draws attention to our cause and if we handle ourselves correctly our cause benefits from the struggle just like FR.

W

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Welcome and GREAT POST LovelyDay!

You see folks, I told ya that Emiliano would be good political practice!

That is how you defeat an OBL. Not with anger, not by deleting them but with calm facts! They will attack you. They will bait you, but the truth and facts are on our side.

Everyone here needs to practice their tactics and messages. We could ban any OBL that comes here but they would still be out there where the real fight awaits us.

The Emilianos that come here will be used for training of our activists.

Fighting with an OBL draws attention to our cause and if we handle ourselves correctly our cause benefits from the struggle just like FR.

W

Exactly!

I have had a couple of posters join my forums and suggest that I would ban them and delete their comments. Why would I do that?

The opposition is a tool. It provides us a vehicle in which we can openly and thoroughly discuss the facts of the matter. I see opponents as an opportunity...an opportunity to illustrate the idiocy of their positions.

I have a clarity of purpose. Facts and logic support my position. I do not fear dissent or opposing viewpoints.

The opposition has a position built upon a ponzi scheme of lies, half truths and distortions. Ours is built upon a rock of truth.

I wish I had more Emilianos...

Originally Posted by LovelyDay

Having just returned from Minuteman, I know what's happening there. I can authoritatively say that Emiliano is either totally misinformed or lying, meaning that he makes statements without checking his facts or intentionally lies to people.

A, B, C, D .. all of the above.

Thanks for the "on-the-scene" report of MMP.

WELCOME TO ALIPAC and "have a lovely day!" :P