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    Begging for voter fraud

    November 30, 2016
    By Robert Arvay

    Democrats are complaining that Hillary Clinton may have lost the election due to voter fraud. It is ironic that they complain only now, when the policies they approved have left many doors wide open to fraud – in favor of Democrats.

    One such open door is “touch-screen” voting, an electronic system that leaves no paper trail and therefore no foolproof way to audit the process. Other invitations to fraud include so-called “motor-voter” registration, especially when one can both register and vote on the same day.

    There is no question that illegal aliens are voting, and voting overwhelmingly Democrat. With millions of illegals in the U.S., the potential for swinging an election exists. Ballots printed in Spanish facilitate illegal votes.

    Worse yet, the instances of voter fraud are both foreseeable and preventable. Any first-year civics student could devise a more secure system of voting than the one we have. For example, voter ID cards (with photo and fingerprint) could be issued by the federal government for use in all federal elections. Proof of citizenship would of course be required.

    When voting, two paper forms would be given to the voter – one with the voter ID number and the other the anonymous ballot. These would then be deposited in separate boxes, which would be kept under lock and key, controlled by partisan observers of all parties concerned. While no specific connection exists between the voter ID and the vote, it will be easy to make sure the actual number of ballots matches the number of voter IDs. Precincts with 110 percent voter turnout could be prevented.

    A national database could then be used to verify that each voter ID number has been used only once per election.

    To further ensure security, the voter ID form is to be signed by the voter, with the BOLD PRINT warning that voting fraudulently carries (for example) a mandatory penalty of at least five years in prison, with additional penalties for conspiracy. Perhaps a fingerprint placed by the voter on the ID form might impress the warning.

    If voting is the single most important duty of citizenship for most people, then voter fraud should be proportionately penalized. It is the bedrock foundation of our republican democracy, and no violation should be tolerated.

    Why it is that measures similar to these were not already instituted years ago is a sad commentary on the willingness of the government, and the public, to accept the undermining of our trust in our system of self-governance.

    While additional safeguards could be added as needed, the present system begs for fraud.

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    There is no question that illegal aliens are voting, and voting overwhelmingly Democrat. With millions of illegals in the U.S., the potential for swinging an election exists. Ballots printed in Spanish facilitate illegal votes.
    Absolutely no question at all. They have drivers licenses to register, they have computers to register on line, they have illegal aliens signing them up, they have mail in ballots. On puleeze, anyone who thinks that the legal citizen population in California voted 2 to 1 for open borders when they are the ones who passed Proposition 187 and recalled a Governor because he refused to appeal a ruling against it to a higher court or for free trade treason when they know the losses to their manufacturing base just isn't of their right mind. Californians are is more anti-illegal immigration than any group of voters anywhere. Californians are even the ones who passed a Statewide Referendum to cap property taxes and electric bills. Californians are smart and know the consequences of free trade treason, open borders and higher taxes and energy costs. Californians are also the ones who started Zero Population Growth to preserve resources and protect the environment.

    So there is just no way that they would vote 2 to 1 for Hillary Clinton when she is the exact opposite of what they believe in and want. No way.
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    Ballots printed in Spanish facilitate illegal votes.
    I wondered about this and done a quick check. Check results:

    English Language Requirements for Naturalization

    To be eligible for naturalization, you must have an understanding of the English language, including reading, writing, and speaking. In practice, this means that you need to be able to read and write simple words and phrases, and to be able to do the naturalization interview in English.
    Exceptions

    The English language requirement does not apply in four cases:

    1. If you are over 50 years of age and have been a legal permanent resident (LPR) for at least 20 years, you can do the interview and civics test in your native language (with an interpreter).
    2. Ditto if you are over 55 years of age and have been an LPR for at least 25 years.
    3. If you are over 65 years of age and have been an LPR for at least 20 years, you can do the interview in your native language and you will be given special consideration on the civics test.
    4. If you have a disability or mental impairment that prevents you from learning English or the civics information, you can apply for a waiver from this requirement with form N-648




    http://pjclaw.net/uscitizenship/english-language-requirements-for-naturalization/


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    We need an immediate 10 to 20 Year Moratorium on All Immigration. It is absolute insanity to issue anyone Legal Permanent Residence in the United States who doesn't already speak English.
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    Puerto Ricans can be an exception when they leave the island and move to the states. They probably speak Spanish or are comfortable with Spanish. They are citizens. There are many living in central FL.

    Some time ago, I read on a ballot that Spanish is included, because there is locally a significant minority where Spanish is their first language. It's meant for convenience.

    Now, in my opinion, there aren't that many words on a ballot that most people wouldn't know or could figure out what the words mean in English. I get very annoyed with bilingual ballots or anything else for that matter.
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    Puerto Rico teaches English starting in 1st grade and has for years. I don't think we should make exceptions for Puerto Ricans. Just my opinion. They would still need to learn English to vote in a US election in the United States seems to me.
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