Thread: Blue Dog Democrats

Here's a list of these alleged moderate Democrats. I'd take it with a grain of salt, as it includes Loretta Sanchez and Joe Baca. Still, a lot (but not all) of the Dems who have signed the discharge petition are on it.

http://www.bluedogdems.com/members.html

wikipedia lists 48 members

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Democrat

* Mike Arcuri (New York)
* Joe Baca (California)
* John Barrow (Georgia)
* Melissa Bean (Illinois)
* Marion Berry (Arkansas)
* Sanford Bishop (Georgia)
* Dan Boren (Oklahoma)
* Leonard Boswell (Iowa)
* Allen Boyd (Florida), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Administration
* Dennis Cardoza (California)
* Christopher Carney (Pennsylvania)
* Ben Chandler (Kentucky)
* Jim Cooper (Tennessee)
* Jim Costa (California)
* Bud Cramer (Alabama)
* Lincoln Davis (Tennessee)
* Joe Donnelly (Indiana)
* Brad Ellsworth (Indiana)
* Bill Foster (Illinois)
* Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
* Kirsten Gillibrand (New York)
* Bart Gordon (Tennessee)
* Jane Harman (California)
* Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (South Dakota), Blue Dog Whip
* Baron Hill (Indiana)
* Tim Holden (Pennsylvania)
* Steve Israel (New York)
* Nick Lampson (Texas)
* Tim Mahoney (Florida)
* Jim Marshall (Georgia)
* Jim Matheson (Utah)
* Mike McIntyre (North Carolina)
* Charlie Melancon (Louisiana)
* Mike Michaud (Maine)
* Dennis Moore (Kansas), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy
* Patrick Murphy (Pennsylvania)
* Collin Peterson (Minnesota)
* Earl Pomeroy (North Dakota)
* Mike Ross (Arkansas), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Communications
* John Salazar (Colorado)
* Loretta Sanchez (California)
* Adam Schiff (California)
* David Scott (Georgia)
* Heath Shuler (North Carolina)
* Zack Space (Ohio)
* John Tanner (Tennessee)
* Gene Taylor (Mississippi)
* Mike Thompson (California)
* Charlie Wilson (Ohio)

We hear about conservatives losing seats to dems, but if you look closer, it's blue dogs winning, not the liberals!

Originally Posted by gofer

We hear about conservatives losing seats to dems, but if you look closer, it's blue dogs winning, not the liberals!

I agree. Although I do go like this when I see Loreta Sanchez's name on that list -- I think it is because she is pro-life or something. But your right. Most of the seats picked up by the Dems were "Lou Dobbs Democrats." Dems who are pro-enforcement as well as against outsourcing. Pat Buchanan explained this very phenomenon on election day, calling them "economic nationalists."

Sure hope you're right. I had heard early on in the Iraq invasion that young vets were coming home and running for political office---but as Democrats! Maybe that's where some of them are coming from.

BearFlagRepublic wrote:

I agree. Although I do go like this when I see Loreta Sanchez's name on that list -- I think it is because she is pro-life or something.

We have more than Loretta Sanchez to worry about.

Mike Arcuri (New York)/NumbersUSA recent immigration grade: B-
Joe Baca (California)/F
John Barrow (Georgia)/B+
Melissa Bean (Illinois)/C
Marion Berry (Arkansas)/B-
Sanford Bishop (Georgia)/C- (career D)
Dan Boren (Oklahoma)/B
Leonard Boswell (Iowa)/C (career C-)
Allen Boyd (Florida)/C
Dennis Cardoza (California)/D+ (career D)
Christopher Carney (Pennsylvania)/B
Ben Chandler (Kentucky)/B
Jim Cooper (Tennessee)/C (career D+)
Jim Costa (California)/C-
Bud Cramer (Alabama)/B (career C+)
Lincoln Davis (Tennessee)/B+ (career B)
Joe Donnelly (Indiana)/A-
Brad Ellsworth (Indiana)/A-
Bill Foster (Illinois)/D-
Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)/D
Kirsten Gillibrand (New York)/B-
Bart Gordon (Tennessee)/B (career C)
Jane Harman (California)/F
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (South Dakota)/C+ (career C)
Baron Hill (Indiana)/B- (career D+)
Tim Holden (Pennsylvania)/B (career C+)
Steve Israel (New York)/D+ (career D)
Nick Lampson (Texas)/A- (career C-)
Tim Mahoney (Florida)/C
Jim Marshall (Georgia)/A-
Jim Matheson (Utah)/B (career C+)
Mike McIntyre (North Carolina)/A- (career B)
Charlie Melancon (Louisiana)/B-
Mike Michaud (Maine)/D
Dennis Moore (Kansas)/C
Patrick Murphy (Pennsylvania)/B
Collin Peterson (Minnesota)/B
Earl Pomeroy (North Dakota)/C-
Mike Ross (Arkansas)/C+
John Salazar (Colorado)/D+
Loretta Sanchez (California)/D (career F)
Adam Schiff (California)/D- (career F)
David Scott (Georgia)/C
Heath Shuler (North Carolina)/A-
Zack Space (Ohio)/B
John Tanner (Tennessee)/B+
Gene Taylor (Mississippi)/A-
Mike Thompson (California)/D
Charlie Wilson (Ohio)/C-

Many are classified "blue dog" simply because they are pro-life and not much of any other conservative values.

Ok, I went to the link of the Blue Dogs website. I was trying to find out what criteria an incumbent needs to be qualified as a "Blue Dog Democrat." Voting record? Issues voted on? Bills sponsored?

I could not find it.

So, to me, this so-called "Blue Dog Democrat" group is highly suspect. How does one get their name in there? Just by applying? Ohhhhh, all the liars will come out -- just for votes. Is there some verifiable, statistical data that a Dem must have to pass muster? WHAT IS THE MUSTER??

I don't buy it. Their website can all be lies and phony members -- just for votes. I NEED PROOF -- I WANT TO SEE THE ISSUES THEY HAVE VOTED/SPONSORED AND HOW THEY VOTED.

Many are fiscal conservatives, such as Jim Cooper from TN. That and pro-life are probably the two biggest criteria.

The only reason Thompson is considered Blue Dog is because of his second amendment stance. Other than that he votes yes on every spending bill thata comes down the pike and on illegal immigration he is a nightmare.

Well, we need to pressure these guys then:

Mike Arcuri (New York)/NumbersUSA recent immigration grade: B-
John Barrow (Georgia)/B+
Melissa Bean (Illinois)/C
Marion Berry (Arkansas)/B-
Dan Boren (Oklahoma)/B
Allen Boyd (Florida)/C
Ben Chandler (Kentucky)/B
Bud Cramer (Alabama)/B (career C+)
Lincoln Davis (Tennessee)/B+ (career B)
Joe Donnelly (Indiana)/A-
Brad Ellsworth (Indiana)/A-
Kirsten Gillibrand (New York)/B-
Bart Gordon (Tennessee)/B (career C)
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (South Dakota)/C+ (career C)
Baron Hill (Indiana)/B- (career D+)
Tim Holden (Pennsylvania)/B (career C+)
Nick Lampson (Texas)/A- (career C-)
Tim Mahoney (Florida)/C
Jim Marshall (Georgia)/A-
Jim Matheson (Utah)/B (career C+)
Mike McIntyre (North Carolina)/A- (career B)
Charlie Melancon (Louisiana)/B-
Dennis Moore (Kansas)/C
Patrick Murphy (Pennsylvania)/B
Collin Peterson (Minnesota)/B
Mike Ross (Arkansas)/C+
David Scott (Georgia)/C
Heath Shuler (North Carolina)/A-
Zack Space (Ohio)/B
John Tanner (Tennessee)/B+
Gene Taylor (Mississippi)/A-