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    Putin: White House uses Russia scaremongering to manipulate Americans

    Putin: White House uses Russia scaremongering to manipulate Americans

    12 Oct, 2016 15:43



    The Obama administration is dragging Russia into the US presidential election to manipulate American voters for the benefit of Hillary Clinton, Russian President Vladimir Putin said, adding that email revelations have nothing to do with Russia's interests.

    US intelligence officials last week accused the Russian government of being behind a series of hacks which targeted the Democratic National Convention and the Hillary Clinton campaign. The Clinton camp has pointed the finger at Putin as the source of the problems it has faced over the leaks practically since the first batch of documents was released. Russia denies any involvement in the cyberattacks.

    “They caused this [anti-Russian] hysteria with a sole goal to distract the public from the essence of what the hackers leaked,” Putin said at an economic forum in Moscow, referring to the hacking allegations.

    “It’s basically a way of manipulating public opinion, but for some reason nobody discusses that. They only talk about who did it.”

    Putin dismissed the notion that the leaks were in line with Russian goals. The Democrat camp claims that Moscow favors Donald Trump as the next US president and is using cyberwarfare to manipulate the outcome of the November vote.

    “They say it was in Russia’s interest. There are no Russian interests involved,” he stated.

    The Russian leader added that both candidates have made anti-Russian statements during their campaigns, disregarding the damage it is likely to cause when one of them assumes office next year.

    “They made Russia a priority issue of the entire campaign. Everyone is talking about Russia. It may be flattering, but only partially. Because all participants of this process indulge in anti-Russian rhetoric and poison the relations between our states,” Putin said. “This is bad for both our countries and the international community.”

    Putin added that the worsening of Russia’s relations with the US “was not our choice.” He said that for things to improve between Moscow and Washington, the US should start acting like an equal partner and respect Russia’s interests rather than try to dictate terms.

    “We are concerned with the deterioration of Russian-American relations, but that was not our choice, we never wanted that. On the contrary, we want to have friendly relations with the US, a great country and a leading economy,” Putin said.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/362529-putin-russia-us-election/

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    So that if Trump wins, they will try to say it was because of foreign influence. They have been setting this up for a while.

    Lets see, who would I believe....Obama,Hillary Clinton, John Podesta,John Kerry or Putin? I would give Putin the benefit of the doubt. Of the others three are proven liars and the fourth is incompetent IMO


    Putin Rejects Accusations Of Meddling In U.S. Election


    Russian President Vladimir Putin attends the annual VTB Capital "Russia Calling!" Investment Forum in Moscow, Russia, October 12, 2016. Sputnik/Kremlin/Alexei Druzhinin via REUTERS

    October 12, 2016
    By James Oliphant and Katya Golubkova

    WASHINGTON/MOSCOW (Reuters) – Russian President Vladimir Putin insisted on Wednesday his country was not involved in an effort to influence the U.S. presidential election even as WikiLeaks released another trove of internal documents from Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

    Last week, the U.S. government formally accused Russia of launching a hacking campaign to “interfere with the U.S. election process.”

    Clinton’s campaign, which has charged the Kremlin is trying to help Republican Donald Trump win the White House on Nov. 8, took its allegations a step further on Tuesday when John Podesta, chairman of the Democratic nominee’s campaign, accused the Trump campaign of colluding with Russia.

    At events in Florida, Trump said he had nothing to do with Putin or Russia.

    “I promise you, I don’t have any business deals with Russia,” Trump said at a rally in Lakeland.
    In Moscow, Putin said nothing in the hacking scandal is in Russia’s interests and accused all sides in the U.S. presidential campaign of misusing rhetoric about Russia for their own purposes.

    “They started this hysteria, saying this (hacking) is in Russia’s interests, but this has nothing to do with Russia’s interests,” Putin told a business forum.

    Putin said his government would work with whoever won the U.S. election, “if, of course, the new U.S. leader wishes to work with our country.”

    WikiLeaks, the organization started by Julian Assange that publishes leaked information on the internet, this week released thousands of emails from Podesta’s email account and has not said how it obtained them. Last week, it posted excerpts from Clinton’s private speeches to banking and financial firms.
    The Clinton campaign has not confirmed the authenticity of the messages.

    The leaks, coming as the election campaign reaches the final stretch, have the potential to embarrass the Clinton camp. In recent days, however, Trump’s own campaign has been in deeper trouble over the emergence of a 2005 video in which Trump bragged about groping women. Many Republican elected officials have turned their back on him and Clinton’s lead in national opinion polls has increased.
    Trump escalated his attacks on U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan on Wednesday, deepening a fracture in the Republican Party.

    Clinton, a former secretary of state, has repeatedly accused Trump of having overly friendly ties with Putin and Russia.

    She has noted that Trump’s foreign policies have tended to align with Russian’s interests, whether it has been questioning NATO’s role in defending Eastern Europe, failing to recognize Russia’s intrusion into Ukraine, and supporting Russia’s actions in Syria.

    Trump, a New York businessman who has never previously run for office, has shifted his policies on a wide range of issues, from taxes to the minimum wage to immigration during his White House campaign but his statements on Russia have been consistent. His friendly stance toward Moscow departs from the views of many prominent Republicans.

    During a presidential debate on Sunday, Trump publicly disagreed with his own vice presidential choice, Mike Pence, who had called for a more hawkish approach toward Russia.

    “I DON’T KNOW PUTIN”

    At that debate, Trump questioned whether Russia was behind the hacks, as the U.S. government has asserted. And on Wednesday, during a rally in Ocala, Florida, Trump echoed those remarks.

    “Have you ever noticed, anything that goes wrong they blame Russia?” Trump told the crowd. “They always blame Russia and then they says Donald Trump is friends . . . I don’t know Putin, folks. What the hell do I have to do with Putin?”

    Trump has said that as president he would seek warmer relations with Russia and that it would be in the United States’ best interests to seek Russia’s help to defeat Islamic State.

    “Trump is the most pro-Russian presidential candidate ever,” said Max Boot, a senior fellow for national security studies at the Council of Foreign Relations. “Putin no doubt sees a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reorient U.S. foreign policy in his direction by electing Trump.”

    A Russian ultra-nationalist ally of Putin who is known for his fiery rhetoric said Trump was the only person able to de-escalate dangerous tensions between Moscow and Washington, and predicted nuclear war if Clinton were elected.

    “Relations between Russia and the United States can’t get any worse. The only way they can get worse is if a war starts,” Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a flamboyant veteran lawmaker, told Reuters.

    Clinton campaign chairman Podesta said on Tuesday the FBI was investigating a “criminal hack” of his emails, and he tied the Trump campaign to the leaks by suggesting that a former Trump adviser, Roger Stone, had advance warning of the hacks.

    The Trump campaign has not responded to the allegation about Stone, but Trump has denied any coordination with the Russian government to embarrass Clinton.

    He has, however, made clear he supports WikiLeaks’ efforts. “I love WikiLeaks,” he said at a rally in Pennsylvania on Tuesday.

    The United States has an ongoing criminal investigation into Assange’s publishing of classified material. Clinton has been a fierce critic of Assange, who remains at the Ecuadorean embassy in London where he sought refuge in 2012 to avoid possible extradition to Sweden.

    Last week, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and Department of Homeland Security said the government was confident the hacks of Democratic political groups and campaign officials originated from high levels of the Russian government.

    The White House on Tuesday promised a “proportional” response to Russia over the hacks.
    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told CNN the United States has offered no proof of his government’s involvement, and suggested Moscow was unconcerned about possible reprisals.
    “If they decided to do something, let them do it,” Lavrov said.

    (Additional reporting by Steve Holland, Amanda Becker, Ginger Gibson, Mark Hosenball, Luciana Lopez and Alexander Winning; Writing by James Oliphant; Editing by Frances Kerry and Alistair Bell)

    http://www.oann.com/putin-dismisses-...-u-s-election/



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    Russian Foreign Minister: ‘So Many P***ies’ on Both Sides of U.S. Election


    Sergei Lavrov / AP


    BY: Natalie Johnson
    October 12, 2016 1:07 pm

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov had harsh words for the U.S. presidential election when asked Wednesday about Donald Trump’s lewd comments about women, saying there are “pussies” on both sides of the race for the White House.

    CNN anchor Christiane Amanpour asked Lavrov for his take on Trump’s 2005 remark that “when you’re a star” women allow men to “grab them by the pussy.” The comments were leaked Friday in a now viral video that has led more than two dozen Republican lawmakers to withdraw their support for the Republican nominee.

    Lavrov, who speaks fluent English, pointed out the language is not his “mother tongue” and that he was unsure if he would sound “decent” before responding, “There are so many p*****s around the presidential campaign on both sides that I prefer not to comment.”

    Lavrov had earlier dismissed Washington’s accusations that the Kremlin was launching cyber attacks against American political computer networks to influence the election as “ridiculous.”

    Lavrov told CNN while it is “flattering” that U.S. officials believe Russia is interfering in the election, the charges are unsubstantiated.

    “Now everybody in the United States is saying that it is Russia which is running the [U.S.] presidential debate,” he said. “We have not seen a single fact, a single proof.”

    U.S. intelligence officials on Friday formally accused Russia’s senior level officials of directing hackers to break into American political systems.

    The Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Homeland Security charged that the Russians were behind the high profile hack into the Democratic National Committee and subsequent breaches of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, a number of Hillary Clinton campaign staffers, and former Secretary of State Colin Powell.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has adamantly rejected the Kremlin’s involvement in the U.S. cyber breaches, said Wednesday that hacking members of the Democratic Party is not in his country’s interest. He condemned U.S. officials for “starting this hysteria.”

    http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...ides-election/

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    I love the Russians. They are so classy, so dignified. We definitely need to become friends with them and improve our relations. Trump is so right about that. And I'm sure President Trump will do wonderful things with an improved Russian relationship, possibly even end nuclear weapons.
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