Thread: Washington Post readers say no to polls/illegals

Readers Say No to Polls, Illegal Immigrants

Our Readers Who Comment today make two things very clear:

1) They don't trust polls.
2) They are angry about illegal immigration.

A new Washington Post-ABC News national poll finds Sen. John McCain now leading the Republican field and Sen. Barack Obama all but erasing Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's once-overwhelming advantage among Democrats.

And a story about the problems of illegal immigrants who graduate from U.S. high schools but then run into the realities of having no documentation has brought out the now predictable vitriolic responses from the send-them-home crowd.

I tie these two apparently unrelated stories together because one of the most unpleasant comments about immigrants came in response to the polling story. But most of those responding to that story either cheered for their candidate, blasted another candidate or blasted polling in general, which is not surprising after the New Hampshire misfire of last week.

As for the immigration story, most of the RWC want the border closed and all illegals sent home, but there are exceptions.

We'll start with the comment that sent me down this dual track.
buzzm1, in response to the poll story, said, "Hillary and Barack, "La Senora y El Senor Amnistia" and John McCain, "Varón de AmnistÃ*a" I will never support any candidate that is supporting amnesty for the many, many, millions of illegal immigrants in our country...
Crowded classrooms, and the need to build new schools, all due to the invasion of illegal immigrants."

FairlingtonBlade responded to buzzm1 a couple of hours later, saying, "I believe that Señor Amnesty would be Ronald Reagan. And you can see how that caused our country to collapse. NOT."

Now other more general comments on the poll story.
cdierd1944 wrote. "Given what happened in New Hampshire and the wide swings in opinion is such a short time, one has to question the validity of these polls."

ita8111 said, "Are you folks at the WP shameless or what? Just days after the New Hampshire primary taught us a valuable lesson about trusting polls or at least trusting the sample population would tell the "truth" - here we go again. Another meaningless poll!"

p_peppermint wrote, "BALONEY this paper will never stop, this is not what is happening out here in Voter Land, Dems every Dem I have spoken to and even I's like myself have hardened their choice and support for Senator Clinton."

truth2 said, "But...but...but...I thought John McCain was so....so...so...OVER! I read it in the WaPo last year. I'm so confused."

rcc_2000 wrote, "McCain will win the GOP, in the end most true GOP voters will realize he is really the only one with a chance to win. My feeling is that McCain beats Obama and narrowly looses to Clinton."

gwshening said, "...Obama can not win the general election because he can not win in the south and boarder states, and in the southwest because the tense race relation between the Blacks and the Latinos. Please, my Democrat friends, don't be fooled again by the liberal media. The media wants a cause. But we want a president."

Indeendent, who wrote, "...Tens of millions of Americans enthusiastically support Bush, the neocons and the war... Are we still confident that Obama has a good chance? Are we confident that there is a big difference between HRC and John McCain? Are we still confident that the democrats will win? I am not."

We'll close the discussion of polling with beth-wade, who said, "Here's an idea: why not stop with the polls already? Just report the results of the primaries and allow the people of this country to make their own decisions..."

Now to a few comments on the story of the Mexican immigrant who graduated from a local high school and was finally able to get legal admission to the United States.

RoboFlop said, "It occurs to me that WE should stop whining about this situation. I guess back in '82, they were really saying, "You must address immigration at the border; not at the local middle school." So, let's do it! CLOSE the borders and DEPORT the illegals (in that order). If we do this aggressively enough, there won't be any illegals around to sponge a free education."

partyanimalken said, "High school is not the end for illegal immigrants -- they can return to the land of their birth or to that of their parent's before they came across our borders illegally and gave birth to the child on this side."

highwaybluesoccer wrote. "Now that we have educated them, send them back to their countries to try and improve their own governments, this is not their country."

But Krazijoe said, "Kudo's to kid for getting his VISA. at least he is paying into the system that helped him out. Then again, he was working for Wendy's and paying taxes, unless he was paid under the table, which I doubt."

And we'll close with maryjo525, who wrote, "What a wonderful young man. We are lucky to have him. It is a joy to read about fellow Americans behaving honorably."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dot.comm ... id=topnews

But Krazijoe said, "Kudo's to kid for getting his VISA. at least he is paying into the system that helped him out. Then again, he was working for Wendy's and paying taxes, unless he was paid under the table, which I doubt."

Unless the kid was working in a management capacity, the chances that he earned enough to actually pay into the Federal income tax coffers is quite small. Maybe more a possibility with respect to state/local income taxes, but he probably never paid a cent into US Fed income tax (people that earn less than about 20k-25k and less functionally don't pay any - they get it all refunded).

And I conveniently omitted a discussion on the EITC here as well (Earned Income Tax Credit)

Originally Posted by PhredE

But Krazijoe said, "Kudo's to kid for getting his VISA. at least he is paying into the system that helped him out. Then again, he was working for Wendy's and paying taxes, unless he was paid under the table, which I doubt."

Unless the kid was working in a management capacity, the chances that he earned enough to actually pay into the Federal income tax coffers is quite small. Maybe more a possibility with respect to state/local income taxes, but he probably never paid a cent into US Fed income tax (people that earn less than about 20k-25k and less functionally don't pay any - they get it all refunded).

And I conveniently omitted a discussion on the EITC here as well (Earned Income Tax Credit)

They all check the Box "Exempt"

so.. they have ZERO witheld!!

I think some polls are rigged for the media to promote a particular canidate for the undecided voters and feel that some elections are rigged too. Voting machines are too easily reprogramable.

“It's not the voting that's democracy; it's the counting.â€

Amazing that the Post would even acknowledge the issue ...and the reporter just seems to "surprised" at how angry readers are about illegal immigration.

It's as if they live in their own little world, not the least bit bothered by it...wish I could live in that world.

The Washington Post elites DON'T have to ENDURE ILLEGALS DAILY like the AVERAGE law-abiding American and legal resident do!