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    "roundabout"
    WorriedAmerican,

    Bush did not do all of this on his own. Truth be told the snowball has been rolling down hill for quite some time now, and there was much help in pushing it.
    Quite some time, yes, 7.5 years!
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    WorriedAmerican,

    Bush is scheduled to leave office in 8 mos. or so. Who will replace him? Will we be better off? John McCain or Hillary Clinton? Which one do you seek for comfort?

    The borders have been a mess before Bush came around. The Amero is not here,.....yet. Who will usher it in? Bush or the next guy? NAFTA has been in the works well before Bush. The NAU, truth be told was probably concieved many years ago.

    My point is, if we are to get out the hemp rope, lets bring enough to do the job. We will still have to fill the vacancies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorriedAmerican
    "roundabout"
    WorriedAmerican,

    Bush did not do all of this on his own. Truth be told the snowball has been rolling down hill for quite some time now, and there was much help in pushing it.
    Quite some time, yes, 7.5 years!
    No, rather like since 1913.
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    Do you know the damage this jerk can do in 8 months! That's 210 days of something against Americans EVERY DAMN DAY. He's on a mission to incorporate the NAFTA Superhighway, the NAU, global economy, (which means the US loses) and the Amero.

    He is a war criminal and needs to be Impeached for all he has illegally done while in office, or let happen.

    The Democratic Congress has only been in for a little over a year and look what they have done. This idiot has had the last 3 1/2 years to stick it to us! Are you happy with how things are going? If you are you are either a rich elitist or suicidal......
    He didn't do it on his own, he had Rummy, Cheney, and others needed to hang out to dry, with him
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    The conservatives have to retake control of the GOP
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    This is a huge point. True Conservatives are not really in any place of power right now, the ones who inhabit the GOP are mostly RINO's. These same people will simply do what is told to them and nothing more.

    Oregon has one Congressman, who identifies himself as Democrat, but he, according to one here, really a "populist". This man is Peter DeFazio. He is not my rep, but I wish he was. There are few like him here in Oregon at least. We know we can count on people like him.
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    CBI-Caribbean Basin Initiative-Reagan
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    NAFTA-Bill and Billary Clinton
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    Then there is China where it all ends up anyway.....

    Open borders and no more United State. Same thing in Europe.

    They say it is all good.....

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    www.cfr.org/publication/8102

    11. The essential building blocks of the North American Union include: the Free Trade Area of the Americas, launched in 1994; Carla Hills' North American Free Trade Agreement, also launched in 1994; The Central America Free Trade Agreement, signed in 2005; and the Security and Prosperity Partnership, also launched in 2005.

    FTAA: http://www.ftaa-alca.org/alca_e.asp

    NAFTA: http://www.mac.doc.gov/nafta/

    CAFTA: http://www.fas.usda.gov/itp/CAFTA/cafta.asp

    SPP: http://www.spp.gov/

    12. Skeptics contend that the FTAA, NAFTA, and CAFTA, are simply trade agreements, and that the SPP is simply an effort by the three nations to improve cooperation on major issues. What could possibly be wrong, or threatening about this?

    13. Here's what's wrong with these agreements:

    1. They are transforming our system of government;

    2. They usurp the Constitutional authority of Congress;

    3. They further erode national sovereignty

    14. The bedrock principle on which our system of government is built is set forth in our Declaration of Independence: Governments derive their just power from the consent of the governed. When public policy - including trade policy - is made by appointed bureaucrats, those who are governed by those policies have no way to directly grant, nor withhold their consent.

    15. Let's take a closer look at the North American Free Trade Agreement. Let's see precisely how NAFTA is transforming our system of government.

    16. NAFTA is governed by a Commission consisting of a cabinet level appointee from each country. It is implemented by a Secretariat, consisting of appointees of the Commission. Take note: the people who govern NAFTA are appointed, and are not directly accountable to the electorate.

    www.nafta-sec-alena.org


    17. NAFTA's Article 511 requires that each nation conform its laws to the "Uniform Regulations" adopted by the appointed policy makers, and that any modifications or additions to the Uniform Regulations, be adopted by the member nations within 180 days.

    The people who are governed elect a President, 100 Senators, and 435Representatives. The President appoints a U.S. Trade Representative, who is confirmed by the Senate. (Carla A. Hills was the Trade Representative who negotiated NAFTA; Susan C. Schwab is the current Trade Representative). Senate confirmation of the Trade Representative is about as close to the "consent of the governed" as it ever gets to NAFTA trade policy. The Trade Representative is the U.S. Representative on the NAFTA Commission.

    It is the NAFTA Commission that creates Trade Policies for the three nations, and appoints a NAFTA Secretariat to coordinate the implementation of those policies. (Let that sink in. The appointed NAFTA Commission creates trade policy for all three nations). NAFTA's Article 511 requires Congress to conform its laws to NAFTA's "Uniform Regulations." NAFTA working groups, consisting of federal employees throughout several agencies, then impose NAFTA's trade policies on the people who are governed.

    Suppose you, as one of the people who are governed, don't like the idea of Mexican trucks delivering goods offloaded at Mexican ports, to cities across the United States. To whom do you express the absence of your consent for this policy? The NAFTA international dispute settlement tribunal has ruled that the U.S. Must allow Mexican Trucks to deliver in the U.S. And, Congress can only complain about it.

    The Government of Mexico challenged the United States' implementation of NAFTA's motor carrier provisions under NAFTA's dispute-resolution process, and in February 2001, an international arbitration panel determined that the United States' "blanket refusal" of Mexican motor carrier applications breached the United States' obligations under NAFTA. App. 279, ¶ ;295. Shortly thereafter, the President made clear his intention to lift the moratorium on Mexican motor carrier certification following the preparation of new regulations governing grants of operating authority to Mexican motor carriers.


    I condensed this as much as I could and still keep the content intact.
    This goes a long way to explain how it is that Bush is operating without the consent, and in many cases, the knowledge of the people.
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    got this from the Canada free press on the SPP

    North American Standards and Regulatory Area, NASRA
    SPP “Bustedâ€

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    Excellent ! I plan to do all, as soon as time permits.
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    americangal4ever, Welcome to ALIPAC!

    We need to be making sure people know the names are changing to attempt to hide the truth. Smoke screens by the elites.
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