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    Review of New proposal for Illegal Aliens Jan 28, 2013

    I just read the 5 page document that these nuts proposed and it has zero teeth in it! It is merely an outline of what they want to appease the left with. The open borders folks will not like this because it does not give them what they want, and the folks on the side of stopping Illegal Immigration will just be pissed off again because the elected rats are not listening to those who got them into office. Respectfully (And Iuse that term loosely) McCain has done a 180deg in this whole matter and should step down and take retirement now.
    Even on page 1 the document contradicts itself ;
    To fulfill the basic governmental function of securing our borders, we will continue the increased efforts of the Border Patrol by providing them with the latest technology, infrastructure, and personnel needed to prevent, detect, and apprehend every unauthorized entrant.

    Additionally,our legislation will increase the number of unmanned aerial vehicles and surveillance equipment, improve radio interoperability and increase the number of agents at and between ports of entry. The purpose is to substantially lower the number of successful illega lborder crossings while continuing to facilitate commerce. “

    This statement looks like it was put in to appease the left open border folks who think BP is trying to harm Illegal Aliens;
    “We will strengthen prohibitions against racial profiling and inappropriate useof force, enhance the training of border patrol agents, increase oversight,and create a mechanism to ensure a meaningful opportunity for border communities to share input, including critiques.”

    And then we have now 2 more Federal programs that is going to be created for tracking all these people;
    “Our legislation will require the completion of an entry-exit system that tracks whether all persons entering the United States on temporary visas via airports and seaports have left the country as required by law.’

    “We recognize that Americans living along the Southwest border are key to recognizing and understanding when the border is truly secure. Our legislation will create a commission comprised of governors, attorneys general,and community leaders living along the Southwest border to monitor the progress of securing our border and to make a recommendation regarding when the bill’s security measures outlined in the legislation are completed.” Just what we need, more lawyers to beinvolved to slow down every move of BP.

    And if anyone in there right mind thinks that 11+ Million are going to do this I havea bridge for sale;
    While these security measures are being put into place, we will simultaneously require those who came or remained in the United States without our permission to register with the government.This will include passing a background check and settling their debt to society by paying a fine and back taxes, in order to earn probationary legal status, which will allow them to live and work legally in the United States.Individuals with a serious criminal background or others who pose a threat to our national security will be ineligible for legal status and subject to deportation. Illegal immigrants who have committed serious crimes face immediate deportation.”

    So, allthe MS13 gang bangers will stay here because none of them will pass a background check!

    Then the document makes this wild claim;

    “We will demonstrate our commitment to securing our borders and combating visa overstays by requiring our proposed enforcement measures be complete before any immigrant on probationary status can earn a green card “ But it FAILS to lay out who, how, when this will happen and how any of the above will actually be funded!

    Now here is a dozy of a statement! Anybody have an idea on how long the waiting line is today? And we are to expect that the left will swallow this POS!

    “Once the enforcement measures have been completed, individuals with probationary legal status will be required to go to the back of the line of prospective immigrants, pass an additional background check, pay taxes, learn English and civics, demonstrate a history of work in the United States, and current employment, among other requirements, in order to earn the opportunity to applyfor lawful permanent residency. Those individuals who successfully complete these requirements can eventually earn a green card. “. Key word here “eventually” no time frame given tough!

    Another hard to swallow poison pill for the left;

    “Individuals who are present without lawful status - not including people within the two categories identified below - will only receive a green card after every individual who is already waiting in line for a green card, at the time this legislation is enacted, has received their green card. Our purpose is to ensurethat no one who has violated America’s immigration laws will receive preferential treatment as they relate to those individuals who have complied with the law.


    Two Categories mentioned-

    For instance, (What does this mean? Is this just one example of others that are yet to come?) individuals who entered the United States as minor children (ie Underage Illegal Aliens)did not knowingly choose to violate any immigration laws. Consequently, under our proposal these individuals will not face the same requirements as other individuals in order to earn a path to citizenship. (Then what will they face? No description of these penalties is given)

    Similarly,individuals who have been working without legal status (So these people have not paid any taxes or are using someone else’s ID?)in the United States agricultural industry ( A very small percentage in reality actually do perform farm work nowadays) have been performing very important and difficult work to maintain America’s food supply while earning subsistence wages. Due to the utmost importance in our nation maintaining the safety of its food supply, agricultural workers who commit to the long term stability of our nation’s agricultural industries will be treated differently than the rest of the undocumented population because of the role they play in ensuring that Americans have safe and secure agricultural productsto sell and consume. These individuals will earn a path to citizenship througha different process under our new agricultural worker program. (Really,so now we have a special class of Illegal Aliens who will get special treatment for a green card? Are these people allowed to go to the front of the line?)

    And weare only on the top of Page 3!

    Now another potential federal program in the works! This paragraph says we need to do a better job, but fails to give any details on how to solve the issue mentioned.

    Our new immigration system must be more focused on recognizing the important characteristics which will help build the American economy and strengthen American families. Additionally, we must reduce backlogs in the family and employment visa categories so that future immigrants view our future legal immigration system as the exclusive means for entry into the United States.

    Now we are going to take away JOBS from AMERICANS for those who get a Masters or Doctorate degree! There is nothing about how this will happen other than they will get a GREEN CARD!

    The United States must do a better job of attracting and keeping the world’s bestand brightest. As such, our immigration proposal will award a green card to immigrants who have received a PhD orMaster’s degree in science, technology, engineering, or math from an American university. It makes no sense to educate the world’s future innovators and entrepreneurs only to ultimately force them to leave our country at the moment they are most able to contribute to our economy.

    Now onto Page 4-

    This sounds like what we already have,the E-VERIFY Program, but it tries to go further (Remember all the flake aboutE-VERIFY?) Also there are no details, nothing about who will pay for this or run or oversee it.

    We recognize that undocumented immigrants come to the United States almost exclusively for jobs. As such, dramatically reducing future illegal immigrationcan only be achieved by developing a tough, fair, effective and mandatory employment verification system. An employment verification system must hold employers accountable for knowingly hiring undocumented workers and make itmore difficult for unauthorized immigrants to falsify documents to obtain employment. Employers who knowingly hire unauthorized workers must face stifffines and criminal penalties for egregious offenses.

    We believe the federal government must provide U.S. employers with a fast and reliable method to confirm whether new hires are legally authorized to work in the United States. This is essential to ensure the effective enforcement of immigration laws.

    Our proposal will create an effective employmentv erification system which prevents identity theft and ends the hiring of future unauthorized workers. We believe requiring prospective workers to demonstrate both legal status and identity, through non-forgeable electronic means prior to obtaining employment, is essential to an employee verification system; and,

    The employee verification system in our proposal will be crafted with procedural safeguards to protect American workers, prevent identity theft, and provide due process protections. (HOW? How much will this cost? Details?)

    SECTION4-

    Admitting New Workers and Protecting Workers’ Rights

    The overwhelming majority of the 327,000 illegal entrants apprehended by CBP inFY2011 were seeking employment in the United States. We recognize that to prevent future waves of illegal immigration a humane and effective system needs to be created for these immigrant workers to enter the country and find employment without seeking the aid of human traffickers or drug cartels.

    Our proposal will provide businesses with the ability to hire lower-skilled workersin a timely manner when Americans are unavailable or unwilling to fill those jobs.
    (So now we are going to create and fill a sub-lower class in our society of lower-skilled workers!)

    Our legislation would:

    Allow employers to hire immigrants if it can be demonstrated that they were unsuccessful in recruiting an American to fill an open position and the hiring of an immigrant will not displace American workers; (Employers can already hire Immigrants Stupid!)

    Create a workable program to meet the needs of America’s agricultural industry,including dairy to find agricultural workers when American workers are not available to fill open positions; (Really, will these jobs be at a American livable wage? How do we know Americans are not willing to do this work?)

    Allow more lower-skilled immigrants to come here when our economy is creating jobs,and fewer when our economy is not creating jobs; (Again are we back in the Slave industry again? How shameful are these people?)


    Protect workers by ensuring strong labor protections; and,

    Permit workers who have succeeded in the workplace and contributed to their communities over many years to earn green cards. (How will this work, how do they verify that any person has worked here “Many Years”?)

    You can question the details of the policies but there is no getting around the fact that we can't allow everyone who wants to move to the US to do so without reducing most of the population to poverty. There is such a thing as a labor market andthe doubling in immigration due to the illegal’s has already driving wages inconstruction and other industries down close to the minimum wage.

    Theproblem I see is that this could have been put together by a small group ofhigh school kids, it has no details, nothing in it shows how it will be worded,how it will be funded, how many new organizations will be created, who willlead those organizations, who will oversee them, how long this will take tostart to implement just to name a few points.

    Nowthe big question comes to mind! Will there be bills created for any of this?Will there be hidden amendments inserted into other bills that implement anypart of this? Will the POTUS issue Executive Orders to make this happen? Isthis just a front to appease both sides to get votes and nothing will reallycome from it? OR is this a RUSE to cover up some other thing just over the horizonthat looms much larger and this like gun control is just a smoke screen todivert our attention away from other important matters?

    Lotsof questions, few if any answers! We need to monitor all the bills submitted tocongress and read each and every sentence in them! What we do not want isanother middle of the night bill passed with nobody watching!


    Respectfully,
    Ken
    Last edited by dregerk; 01-29-2013 at 12:03 AM.
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