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    Criticism of Trump Draws Online Harassment, Threats

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    Mar 24 2016, 3:00 pm ET

    Criticism of Trump Draws Online Harassment, Threats

    by Jane C. Timm

    Liz Mair's mother didn't want her to go outside yesterday: She was convinced that Mair, a Republican political consultant who is running an anti-Donald Trump super PAC, would be hurt.

    Mair is in Trump's crosshairs — albeit obliquely — after her group attacked Trump via an ad that used an image of a nude-and-handcuffed Melania Trump, the Republican front-runner's wife, from a 2000 photo shoot. The candidate blamed the ad on Ted Cruz's campaign, but his supporters traced it to Mair anyway — and her mom, too.

    Read this story on msnbc.com.

    "She woke up and there was a very, very nasty threatening voicemail from somebody who's a Trump supporter. She's going to make a decision about a police report," Mair told MSNBC. "I've already had to file a police report about a Trump supporter who threatened to behead me."

    Mair is just one of the many who have spoken out against Trump and been harassed for it. Her home address was later published online by one of his supporters, she tweeted.

    As Trump routinely tweets attacks at his rivals that are then seen by his 6 million Twitter followers, others take it further: Ganging up, harassing and threatening his critics online and in person for weeks and months on end. They adopt Trump-like insults — his critics are often "losers" — and routinely publish and circulate private information, just as Trump did last summer when he read rival candidate Sen. Lindsey Graham's cell phone number aloud on live television.

    There's a similar pattern at rallies: After Trump blasted protesters at his events and suggested they should be "roughed up," violence began erupting on site with supporters physically clashing with demonstrators. Trump has blamed the protesters and refused to condemn the violence. He's also offered a subtle stamp of approval by announcing he was looking into paying the legal fees for a supporter who was shown in a video punching a protester as he was being escorted out of a rally.

    "This is what life will be like under Trump," conservative blogger Bethany Mandel told MSNBC. After she criticized the the candidate on Twitter and in blog posts, she was routinely harassed by apparent Trump supporters.

    As a result, Mandel recently bought a .22 Magnum revolver after receiving a seemingly an endless tirade of violent threats online. She said she was called a "slimy Jewess" and received death threats sent to her private Facebook account. Mandel reported it to her local police department, who she said didn't take it very seriously.

    "I have nightmares that someone's trying to break into our apartment, and it's going to take 10 minutes for a patrol car" to arrive, she added.

    Many interviewed for this story, Jews and non-Jews alike, said the harassment has often referenced the Holocaust gas chamber. Mandel, who is Jewish and open about her faith online, said she's not surprised the backlash has been anti-Semitic in part.

    "When the mob comes after groups of people, it always ends up at the Jews," Mandel said, adding that Trump's daughter, Ivanka, converted to orthodox Judaism in 2009 and openly practices the religion with her family. Mandel said she wanted Trump to confront the anti-Semitism his fans express online.

    The candidate boasted of his daughter's Judaism to an audience during a speech with to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee on Monday, but Trump has twice re-tweeted posts by a user who has expressed anti-Semitic comments and listed his location as "Jewmerica."

    After conservative consultant and commentator Cheri Jacobus criticized Trump's debating skills on TV (though she notes she'd also previously defended him in another appearance), she was slammed by the candidate himself on Twitter and campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, who said she "begged" them for a job and was angry because she didn't get it. Jacobus vehemently disputes this: She said she had been approached by Trump's team and met with them twice, but said both sides left the second talk disinterested.

    Since then, she said Trump's followers have attacked her daily.

    "They distort my face where it looks like it's melting off … they put a pair of balls on my chin. They put me in a gas chamber and Trump is in a Nazi outfit pushing the button to gas me," Jacobus told MSNBC. "That's what happens when you oppose Trump. He set the tone for this."

    Rick Wilson said he and his family have been harassed for the last year on a daily basis.

    The Republican strategist, who has been one of the most outspoken Trump critics since the real estate mogul announced his bid last summer, receives at least 25 angry or obscene phone calls a week. He had to set up a filter for his email to prevent the angry messages and constant images of genitalia from making it into his inbox. Wilson has filed multiple police reports about the worst of it, including a rape threat sent to his daughter that listed her college address.

    "All this completely nutcase racist sh*t. The Trump world — they're lovely people," he said sarcastically.

    Even those whose work doesn't put them in the public eye said they've routinely been harassed online for criticizing Trump.

    Daniel Windham, who was an active Twitter supporter of Sen. Marco Rubio before he suspended his presidential bid, mocked Trump's Nevada speech in a Twitter exchange.

    A Twitter user whose avatar is a "Make America Great Again" hat superimposed on a photo of Thomas Jefferson reminded him that his account included photos of his family. "Ye be warned," the user wrote.

    "Makes me sick," Windham told MSNBC, adding that this kind of exchange had happened before.

    Another active Twitter user Susie Timm (who has no relation to this reporter) told MSNBC she responded to one of Ann Coulter's tweets in February, calling Trump a loser. Apparent Trump supporters "unleashed a deluge" of attacks on her, mostly criticizing her appearance, calling her a "whore" and a "loser."

    The attacks have mostly stopped since then, but she asked that her home city not be shared in this article for fear for her safety.

    "Honestly, I think anything is possible with these people," Timm said.

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    Here's the thing. Our country is being destroyed by the people who oppose Donald Trump and that includes the people who support his Republican as well as Democratic opponents.

    The only reason these people oppose Donald Trump is because of his positions on immigration and trade. These foul-mouthed hateful opponents of Donald Trump are not in anyway affected by his speech. He hasn't said anything against them or their group, whether it's blacks, whites, gays, women, Hispanics, even Muslims. Donald Trump has accurately described illegal aliens, foreign Muslims we can't vet properly, women who want it their way but can't play by the same rules they set for someone else like Megyn Kelly and Rosie O'Donnell, they want to dish it out but can't take the counter-punch. Trump has rightly called the protesters, agitators, disrupters, nasty guys (due to wearing KKK garb, giving Trump Supporters the finger, yelling the F Bomb, calling them racists and Nazis and bigots). Trump Supporters are none of those things, Trump Supporters support Trump because of 2 issues: immigration and trade. Trump opponents oppose him because of 2 issues: immigration and trade.

    Color it by whatever else you like, but that's what the big money being waged against Trump is about, that's the money paying the pundits and bloggers and strategists, that's the money paying the campaign workers, and that's the money the whole scene is floating their boats on, except for one candidate, and that candidate who is paying his own way with a little help in small donations from Trump Supporters is .... Donald Trump.

    Oh sure, Bernie claims he's running on small donations, but that's more money than his unemployed youthful followers have so, that money is being put into the campaign by "donors" in small amounts in support of turning our country into a socialist illegal alien nation.
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    "Honestly, I think anything is possible with these people," Timm said.
    Anything isn't possible with Trump protesters??? Slapping a police horse in the face! Gunfire! etc, etc.

    Look at the news coverage of non stop protests, rally after rally bothered with their nonsense that disrupts a legitimate candidate from espousing his positions for the thousands of attendees.

    They take their time to be there to HEAR what he is saying, not their disruptions and interference of free speech at a gathering with the purpose of hearing the candidate - not them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Here's the thing. Our country is being destroyed by the people who oppose Donald Trump and that includes the people who support his Republican as well as Democratic opponents.

    The only reason these people oppose Donald Trump is because of his positions on immigration and trade. These foul-mouthed hateful opponents of Donald Trump are not in anyway affected by his speech. He hasn't said anything against them or their group, whether it's blacks, whites, gays, women, Hispanics, even Muslims. Donald Trump has accurately described illegal aliens, foreign Muslims we can't vet properly, women who want it their way but can't play by the same rules they set for someone else like Megyn Kelly and Rosie O'Donnell, they want to dish it out but can't take the counter-punch. Trump has rightly called the protesters, agitators, disrupters, nasty guys (due to wearing KKK garb, giving Trump Supporters the finger, yelling the F Bomb, calling them racists and Nazis and bigots). Trump Supporters are none of those things, Trump Supporters support Trump because of 2 issues: immigration and trade. Trump opponents oppose him because of 2 issues: immigration and trade.

    Color it by whatever else you like, but that's what the big money being waged against Trump is about, that's the money paying the pundits and bloggers and strategists, that's the money paying the campaign workers, and that's the money the whole scene is floating their boats on, except for one candidate, and that candidate who is paying his own way with a little help in small donations from Trump Supporters is .... Donald Trump.

    Oh sure, Bernie claims he's running on small donations, but that's more money than his unemployed youthful followers have so, that money is being put into the campaign by "donors" in small amounts in support of turning our country into a socialist illegal alien nation.
    Just as you always project what Trump stands for and thinks you are now projecting what anyone that opposes him stands for or are against. I wanted to support Trump, then went to wanting everyone of you supporters to convince me. I have been very honest in my discussions and debates on this forum.

    The accusations made towards anyone that opposes Trump is completely out of line. We are not all the same and have different reasons for opposing him. I have never insulted anyone that supports Trump and I demand the same respect. It is some of these very post that Trump supporters are posting that have pushed me from disliking Trump to actually Hating him. Well done and thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontereySherry View Post
    Just as you always project what Trump stands for and thinks you are now projecting what anyone that opposes him stands for or are against. I wanted to support Trump, then went to wanting everyone of you supporters to convince me. I have been very honest in my discussions and debates on this forum.

    The accusations made towards anyone that opposes Trump is completely out of line. We are not all the same and have different reasons for opposing him. I have never insulted anyone that supports Trump and I demand the same respect. It is some of these very post that Trump supporters are posting that have pushed me from disliking Trump to actually Hating him. Well done and thanks.
    Yes, you're right Sherry. I'm not talking about individual voters in my post. I'm talking about the politicians, donors, former opponents and establishment people pushing the STOP TRUMP, NEVER TRUMP, ANYONE BUT TRUMP campaigns. It's a gang-bang and that's really not a fair thing to occur in our party, no matter who the target is. I should have been more clear about that.

    But Sherry, it's not fair of you to blame Trump supporters as the reason you oppose Trump. It's not my fault or anyone elses that you don't like Donald Trump. You're entitled to like whoever you want just as you're entitled to vote and support whoever you want. If you don't think Donald Trump will be the best President, that is your right just as it's my right to believe that he will be one of the Greatest Presidents in US History without being accused of wearing blinders.

    I know a few people who hate Donald Trump, personal friends of mine, because they're jealous of him. These are white men. They can't stand the idea that on top of everything else he was done and accomplished that he could also be President of the United States and fix our country. It drives them crazy. I explain to them that I understand that emotion, but if you deny him the election, you are denying the American People the only person in the race with the personality, the bombast, the guts, the freedom, the will and the skills to fix our country. I won three over. I'm still working on 2. I don't think I'll win them because they're rich, 1 is a billionaire, and they actually benefit from illegal immigration and free trade treason and thus they like the status quo.

    I have other friends who are Hillary fans, and a few others who are Bernie Supporters. We're a big country with a lot of different views on the individual voter level, and I have no problem with that or them at all. But Mitt Romney, Lindsey Graham, Jeb Bush, Donors, Establishment, Elites, Mormons, all meeting and plotting and scheming in some perverted cult of gang-bangers to defeat the front-runner of the Republican race? That is disgusting, and there's only 2 Reasons they're doing that and that's immigration and trade policies.
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