Thread: The current wave

America is of course not just a nation of immigrants but THE nation of immigrants.In the past we've had Irish,Italian,Jewish,German,Chinese,Southeast Asian,Central American,Mexican,Poles,Scots,different Slavic peoples,Cubans,etc.-many of whom where met with resistance and descrimination.Somehow they've manage to ride out the bad roads and now they are America.Is the current wave of Latin American arrivals alarm us more than those in the past?Is is it because of them being illegal or because of the sheer number of them?Will there ever come a time when they are America just as the immigrants of before?

Rick, I'm really not sure where this concept of "Nation of Immigrants" came from, but that really isn't an accurate description of the United States.

At one time in its early days, before all the nation was settled, we were a "Nation of Settlers". As new territories were established, people came to settle upon the territories and develop the territories. They had little incentive; no assistance; and tremendous risk of death, starvation, disease, loneliness, and more hard work than any "immigrant" today can possibly imagine.

The United States is not a Nation of Immigrants. It is a Nation of Settlers.

Look around.....we are over-settled; over-populated; under-employed; over-taxed; and the Jug is Full.

Even in the early days of our country, especially in the West, there were battles between settlers and ranchers.

Even in the early days of our country, tremendous conflicts existed among the Europeans as to the direction of the United States.

We are not a Nation of Immigrants. We are a Nation of Settlers.

There is nothing left to settle. It's been settled and developed beyond the country's capacity to sustain the Nation.

Immigration has been a problem for the past 150 years of the history of the United States. Laws were passed to regulate this problem, because it is a problem and has always been a problem. These laws are called the United States Immigration Laws.

Decades of future legal immigration has been used up by the millions of cheaters who stepped ahead of the line and entered the country illegally.

So, to answer your question, when can we return to just being a Nation of Immigrants? In my opinion, never, because we never were.

I'm a squatter .. I presume .. cuz I'm squatted daily in my chair here.

HA!

No difference in settlers and immigrants except they had more room.

Germany is a lot farther away than Mexico to come and 'settle'.

Congratulations Rickey, you're right on both counts. But your knack for redundancy and stating the obvious didn't add to your argument. Sorry, as Judy said, "the jug's full." Time to go home.

Originally Posted by Tom2

Congratulations Rickey, you're right on both counts. But your knack for redundancy and stating the obvious didn't add to your argument. Sorry, as Judy said, "the jug's full." Time to go home.

there's still some space.I was the one that said we need to post a giant no vacancies sign.However no one is answering the question at the beginning of the thread.

they're already living in our national parks.

Rick!! What is your question in this thread? Is there any time that these illegals will become American? Is that what you are asking?

In my opinion, NO.

There is a 15 year waiting list to enter the United States legally as an immigrant from Mexico.

There is no possibility that illegals will ever be able to enter the United States legally, because they cheated and tried to enter illegally.

That alone would keep them off the list as the waiting list is presently devised in accordance with legal entry into the United States.

I saw your comment that there are illegals already living in the National Parks?

What does this mean?

They are trying to "squat" on U S National Property?

That won't fly.

They'll be going home.

But it was a clever strategy on their part. Try to squat and take possession by adverse possession law. Doesn't apply to National Property, only private property.

If you're suggesting they should be granted national park land. Sorry. That's owned by legal citizens and taxpayers too. Perhaps they should consider PAYING owners for the land they live on. If they haven't the resources, it's time to go home. Forced to answer your original questions, the answer is yes and yes. They are illegal and there are too many of them. When the earliest poor, the tired, the huddled masses came, we had much land available at a bargain. They were willing to endure immigration procedures, humiliation and all, and to save their pennies to buy land, just to earn a piece of the American dream. Now the poor, the tired, the huddled masses want to sneak in from Mexico, commit a felony, pay for nothing, despoil the land and inhabited neighborhoods AND get a piece of the American dream. And then most want to send the illegal profits back to their homelands. Sorry it won't work. The American public is fed up and taking action. Time to go home.