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    Deal on'Dreamer' immigrants still ways off: Republicans

    Deal on'Dreamer' immigrants still ways off: Republicans

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    January 5, 2018 / 9:08 AM



    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Congressional Republicans on Friday downplayed the likelihood of a deal soon with Democrats on saving 700,000 young, undocumented U.S. immigrants from being kicked out of the country in March, a possibility created by President Donald Trump.

    Trump in September ordered an Obama-era program that provided the young “Dreamer” immigrants with work permits and prevented them from being deported to end in six months. The program is known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA.

    Despite his order, the Republican president has vacillated in his view of the Dreamers. Young people brought to the United States as children illegally and raised and educated in the country, most of them have little or no experience of their parents’ homelands in Latin America, Asia, Africa and elsewhere.

    Saving the Dreamers is a high priority for Democrats, but the issue has been swept up in other debates, including one on the wall that Trump wants to build along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Republican Senator John Cornyn, in a tweet on Friday, accused Democrats of trying to force a deal on Dreamers by doing a “slow walk” on efforts to approve critical disaster aid and defense spending.

    Two other Republicans late on Thursday said both sides remained far apart. “Our discussions on border security and enforcement with Democrats are much further apart, and that is key to getting a bipartisan deal on DACA,” senators Thom Tillis and James Lankford said in a statement.

    Democrats have said they are open to tying DACA to additional funding for border security technology. But they oppose Trump’s wall, projected to cost over $21 billion.

    The struggle over the Dreamers carries political weight for both parties heading into the November 2018 midterm congressional elections. Most of the Dreamers came from Mexico and Hispanics tend to vote for Democrats,

    who hope to gain seats in the Senate and the House of Representatives.
    Republican lawmakers met with Trump at the White House on Thursday and initially emerged saying they were optimistic that they could find a legislative fix for DACA.

    On Friday and Saturday, Trump and senior Republican congressional leaders are also likely to discuss the issue at a conference held at Camp David, the U.S. president’s mountain retreat in Maryland.

    A meeting between leaders of both parties was set for Tuesday.

    Cornyn, in an interview on Fox News on Friday, said Trump would demand that an immigration deal address the current visa lottery system and chain migration that unites family members.

    “Those are things that he’s insisted upon,” and Democrats would have to embrace them along with border security, said Cornyn.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1EU1PI


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    STOP talking, STOP meeting, we demand DACA SILENCE, we want none of it, no "deal", if it means waiting on the wall, that's fine, get Mexico to pay for it with a tariff on imports, stop selling US out, stop leveraging our rights against needless benefits for people who aren't even supposed to be in the country.

    This DACA Talk is all nonsense, displays of grand stupidity as well as a lot of corruption. Oh yes, all those DACA supporters in Congress, every one of them is on the take with the drug cartels behind illegal immigration, they aren't fighting for the "kids", because they aren't "kids", they're grown adults with ... ugh .... offspring and they're all on welfare. Get them out of here, all of them, then make a list of all these DACA Supporters and investigate them for links to and bribes from the drug cartels. You'll be amazed at what you find.
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    All of Trump campaign supporters need to be more vocal and louder than the Amnesty idiots.

    Trump won the WH based on his strong stance on illegal immigration and his promise no talk of amnesty until
    after our borders are secured, interior illegal aliens are deported, to end DACA on day 1 and under his presidency,
    it will always be Americans first.

    Trump needs to be reminded of his promises to the American people every day, all day long!


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    Called my reps

    I called Ryan's and McConnell's offices to tell them NO to DACA. I also am a member of Numbers USA and used their fax system to tell my state reps NO to DACA. We are being overrun and our leadership doesn't care about us. I put my two cents in.

    We need to call and stop this madness.

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    Yes, burn those phone lines, check in at your NumbersUSA account and send all your faxes and emails. It's time for the onslaught of 250 million pissed-off Americans to let it be known in no uncertain terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinias View Post
    I called Ryan's and McConnell's offices to tell them NO to DACA. I also am a member of Numbers USA and used their fax system to tell my state reps NO to DACA. We are being overrun and our leadership doesn't care about us. I put my two cents in.

    We need to call and stop this madness.
    Thank you Clinias. We do need to make lots of calls and send faxes and emails.
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    NO DACA

    NO DEAL

    NO PATH TO STAY

    NO EXTENSIONS...OUT THEY GO...THEY WHOLE FAMILY!

    SET UP AN ACCOUNT WHERE AMERICAN'S CAN VOTE WITH THEIR WALLETS TO FUND THE WALL!

    LET US GO INTO ANY BANK AND MAKE A DONATION TO DIRECTLY FUND KATE'S WALL
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    Let me tell you a story. About 20 years ago, I lived in Northern California, in the Santa Rosa area. It was an election season and attended a Republican party meeting and then grabbed some brochures for the running Republican candidate and on one Sunday, I began to pass them out in front of a Catholic Church.

    One woman walked up to me, a white woman, looked at what I was doing and laughed at me. She gleefully said, you're going to be a minority soon and you won't have any traction here. You're dying. (or words to that effect) She laughed and proceeded to go into church.

    I was stunned. I didn't know what to make of it. I was a clueless idiot.

    Now, I DO GET IT. We are being PURPOSELY Disenfranchised by demographics. The Hispanics will vote socialist. The Hispanics will vote democrat. What the White Liberal wants, is a Marxist state. They can't get that with the Anglo-Saxon. The Anglo-Saxon created Britain, Canada, America, Australia, and New Zealand. They are all first world countries, high standard of living---and free of class warfare.

    Not so South America. You have Fidel in Cuba, you had the Shining Path, a Maoist terrorist organization in Peru, the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, and now look at Venezuela---oil reserves rivalling Saudi Arabia---and they have collapsed. Look at all the hard core Marxist organizations that have erupted in Central and South America---and we are importing millions of these people who are inclined to Marxist values and ideas.

    This is the End of America. The White Liberal Elite, the Democrat Party AND the RINO Republicrats, are engaged in race displacement. Moving out the Anglo-Saxon for the Hispanic. For the Hispanic will put in place the dreamed for Marxist Utopia.

    At the end of all this we are being Disenfranchised. The common Democrat quasi-academic follower is aware of that--the story above about that "Catholic woman". They know PERFECTLY what they are doing---and they ARE GLAD OF IT. They work to destroy.

    We are in a Cold Civil War akin to the Spanish Civil War---a society riven by Anarchists/Commies against the Traditionalists. These people, especially the Democrat Party are engaged in Treason. They are committing Treason abetted by the likes of Lindsay Graham, McTurtle McConnell, John McCain and Rubio. The Catholic Church is also engaged in this, as is all the Protestant Churches. They are deliberately drowning this country in foreigners.

    This is a life and death struggle. Either we preserve our way of life---or we are going to turn into a Third World Hell-Hole. Diversity is White Genocide. And White Liberals are sociopaths in this regard.

    The more immigrants---the more us WASPs are being disenfranchised. California used to be a Republican, Conservative state---Now it is a Democratic, Hispanic Totalitarian Leftist state. What California has become---the rest of America will follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinias View Post
    Let me tell you a story. About 20 years ago, I lived in Northern California, in the Santa Rosa area. It was an election season and attended a Republican party meeting and then grabbed some brochures for the running Republican candidate and on one Sunday, I began to pass them out in front of a Catholic Church.

    One woman walked up to me, a white woman, looked at what I was doing and laughed at me. She gleefully said, you're going to be a minority soon and you won't have any traction here. You're dying. (or words to that effect) She laughed and proceeded to go into church.

    I was stunned. I didn't know what to make of it. I was a clueless idiot.

    Now, I DO GET IT. We are being PURPOSELY Disenfranchised by demographics. The Hispanics will vote socialist. The Hispanics will vote democrat. What the White Liberal wants, is a Marxist state. They can't get that with the Anglo-Saxon. The Anglo-Saxon created Britain, Canada, America, Australia, and New Zealand. They are all first world countries, high standard of living---and free of class warfare.

    Not so South America. You have Fidel in Cuba, you had the Shining Path, a Maoist terrorist organization in Peru, the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, and now look at Venezuela---oil reserves rivalling Saudi Arabia---and they have collapsed. Look at all the hard core Marxist organizations that have erupted in Central and South America---and we are importing millions of these people who are inclined to Marxist values and ideas.

    This is the End of America. The White Liberal Elite, the Democrat Party AND the RINO Republicrats, are engaged in race displacement. Moving out the Anglo-Saxon for the Hispanic. For the Hispanic will put in place the dreamed for Marxist Utopia.

    At the end of all this we are being Disenfranchised. The common Democrat quasi-academic follower is aware of that--the story above about that "Catholic woman". They know PERFECTLY what they are doing---and they ARE GLAD OF IT. They work to destroy.

    We are in a Cold Civil War akin to the Spanish Civil War---a society riven by Anarchists/Commies against the Traditionalists. These people, especially the Democrat Party are engaged in Treason. They are committing Treason abetted by the likes of Lindsay Graham, McTurtle McConnell, John McCain and Rubio. The Catholic Church is also engaged in this, as is all the Protestant Churches. They are deliberately drowning this country in foreigners.

    This is a life and death struggle. Either we preserve our way of life---or we are going to turn into a Third World Hell-Hole. Diversity is White Genocide. And White Liberals are sociopaths in this regard.

    The more immigrants---the more us WASPs are being disenfranchised. California used to be a Republican, Conservative state---Now it is a Democratic, Hispanic Totalitarian Leftist state. What California has become---the rest of America will follow.

    This is it. Immigration, along with birthright citizenship, is THE issue that will define this country . Americans who value conservative ideals and principles need to wake up and get on board . Prolife , NRA , homeschoolers, limited government folks , etc., please join us and make those phone calls! Once the whole country resembles CA, nothing you value will matter anymore .

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    It's not only the disenfranchisement of white Americans, it's also the disenfranchisement of black Americans. You might ask what happened to all the blacks in Mexico? Mexico had more black slaves than the United States, yet there are none there now, and they did not come here. Black Americans are in jeopardy as much or even more so than white Americans. American Hispanics are under threat as well, while they have the common heritage of many many illegal aliens, vast majority I would say, they are also severely adversely impacted in every possible way by illegal immigration as well as massive legal immigration.

    It's not just WASPS they're after, it's Americans. They know Americans are the only ones who can and will stop one world government. Trump knows this, it's why he ran for President. It's why he said "our country is in very serious trouble". A poor bankrupt country can't stop anything, even if you have the people and will to do it, you still need money, wealth, resources, infrastructure and production-based companies to defeat enemies.
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