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12-02-2006, 06:06 PM #21
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dragons, Thank You - I thanked you on your myspace too but its worth saying it twice.
I do wish I could have been there but I have an infant at home and that is not a place to take a baby.
You did the right thing and regardless of what "you know who" up there says, you have the right to freedom of speech. This is America, after all! It is not YOU that should be cuffed, it is the people that were trying to stop you... just like they attemped to stop Tancredo.
So, for the third time - THANK YOU!
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12-02-2006, 06:11 PM #22
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Originally Posted by RonnickJ
I will also state that I am extremely disappointed by your attack of Dragon5. While no one was there to witness the events he describes or to corroborate his story, nothing he relates indicates that he picked a fight with anyone, and in fact he appears to have asked the police to act to prevent a fight that it appeared was imminent. Yet you claim that a citizen exercising his right to free speech and to protest in an orderly fashion in a public place somehow "instigated" the unjustified attack by foreign nationals who refused to respect his rights, all because they disagreed with his message.
Ronnick, you and others of foreign descent need to gain a better understanding of our systems of rights and laws in thiscountry if you want to be part of this society. The proper course for counterprotesting an idea with which you do not agree is NOT assault. It is making up signs of your own and displaying them in an orderly and lawful manner in order to get your own point across. If it turns out that most people do not agree with your position, accept it. Don't take that as a justification to revert to the primitive norms of your native culture by resorting to violence.
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12-02-2006, 06:12 PM #23
Yes i think its great as Americans that we can all agree on one thing, that the system is broken.. Let me ask you another question to get more of an idea where you guys stand.. Let me give you a scenario..
Scenario # 1.. Joe is an American citizen, unfortunately he has been a burden on our society, a troublemaker his whole life using and abusing our social systems, being in jail numerous times, not completing high school education etc etc, you get the point
Scenario # 2 Paul came to US ILLEGALY with his mother and father at the age of 4. Has been an honor roll student throughout his schooling, joy to have in the community, never in trouble etc etc. His parents scrapped every penny they had to send him to college, which he completes. Now Paul is a very promising individual, say i dont know in Biology research or something, but can't offer his talents because there is no way he can adjust his status legally
Who, would you guys rather have in our country?
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12-02-2006, 06:13 PM #24
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RonnickJ
You SHOULD BE ASHEMED OF YOURSELF,A PATRIOT IS NOT SOMEBODY WHO TUCKS THE HEAD UNDER THE WINGS IN ORDER TO HIDE FROM THE PROBLEMS, DRAGON5 FOUGHT FOR HIS COUNTRY AND FOR HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS, EVEN FOR YOU, AS YOU ARE SO BLIND THAT YOU CANNOT SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR COUNTRY.
WAKE UP - STAR LEARNING - STOP THIS COMUNIST IDEOLOGY, WE WILL NEVER BE LIKE RUSSIA, CHINA ......
FROM WE, THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HAVE AN AMERICA FOR OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN, THANK YOU DRAGON AND WE GIVE YOU OUR GREAT RESPECT FOR WHAT YOU DID FOR ALL, YES FOR ALL OF US AMERICANS EVEN THOSE WHO DO NOT DESRVE.
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12-02-2006, 06:15 PM #25
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Originally Posted by RonnickJ
Unless you know of a nation with which we have a "criminal for good student" exchange program, your little scenario is meaningless.
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12-02-2006, 06:16 PM #26
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WAIT A SEC GUYS...........it would be much better if everybody wait before they answer Ron.
I've requested information on his original accusation and have not received a reply from him yet.
What do ya think? Should we wait for him to answer me concerning this issue?
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12-02-2006, 06:17 PM #27
Ron, the problem with your argument is that a large portion of the world wants to come into the United States and we cannot support them all. Mexico has an advantage because they border our country. We cannot allow immigration based on pity alone. If you want to split hairs, we should not allow any Mexican people into our country and perhaps everyone in Africa instead. Their people are much more desperate. Perhaps Mexico would like to give up their country to the United States and we can try to salvage it. Why don't the citizens protest their own government instead of ours. Take pride in what you have and do something with it. Mexico is very rich in natural resources so I don't buy the argument that Mexico is poor, it is just mismanaged. Besides, there are people who have better cars and houses than I have...should I take theirs because it is better?
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12-02-2006, 06:20 PM #28
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Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis
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12-02-2006, 06:20 PM #29
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First off, dragon5:
What makes those hoodlums think they have the right to stifle your right to free speech? WRONG!
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12-02-2006, 06:23 PM #30
Neither, they both broke the law.
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