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    The End of The USA As We Know It

    How Long Do We Have?
    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new
    constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at
    the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the A
    thenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:


    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
    permanent form of government."


    " A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters
    discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public
    treasury."


    "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who
    promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that
    every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which
    is always followed by a dictatorship."


    The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning
    of history, has been about 200 years." "During those 200 years, those
    nations always progressed thro ugh the following sequence: 1. from
    bondage to spiritual faith;
    2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
    3. from courage to liberty;
    4. from liberty to abundance;
    5. from abundance to complacency;
    6. from complacency to apathy;
    7. from apathy to dependence;
    8. from dependence back into bondage"


    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul,
    Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000
    Presidential election:

    Number of States won by:
    Gore: 19
    Bush: 29

    Square miles of land won by:
    Gore: 580,000
    Bush: 2,427,000


    Population of counties won by:
    Gore: 127 million
    Bush: 143 million


    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
    Gore: 13.2
    Bush: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won
    was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great
    country.

    Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in
    government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government
    welfare..."


    Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
    "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of
    democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already
    having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.


    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
    invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say good-bye to the
    USA as we know it in fewer than five years.

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    With the judges and politicans that we have today, we are not a land of laws anymore. Our politicans are not there for the country and its citizens, they are out to make millions of dollars by using earmarks to fund their friends, etc. They miss use their power for personnel gain. We need to stop earmarks and have agencies do their jobs.

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    Thanks - that's a great article. I've thought about this for a long time, and it seems that there might be no way of stopping it. It's true that governments come and go. We've been made complacent by our consumerism and greed, without any thought to banding together as citizens - to each his own is the new motto, so we have let the government take over while we sleep.

    Maybe we can put off the "dictatorship" part of it for awhile - Bush is trying, but we're not buying!

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    Good article,

    The only problem I have is the article is trying to say that somehow Bush represents law abiding citizens.

    This immigration horror and this President's hand in it, should tell everyone this President definitely represents someone other than law abiding citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nntrixie
    Good article,

    The only problem I have is the article is trying to say that somehow Bush represents law abiding citizens.

    This immigration horror and this President's hand in it, should tell everyone this President definitely represents someone other than law abiding citizens.
    I saw this same article when Bush first became president. At that time most of us who voted for Bush didn't realize what a nighmare traitor of a president he would become. Most of us had no idea that he would betray the American people like he does!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    Quote Originally Posted by nntrixie
    Good article,

    The only problem I have is the article is trying to say that somehow Bush represents law abiding citizens.

    This immigration horror and this President's hand in it, should tell everyone this President definitely represents someone other than law abiding citizens.
    I saw this same article when Bush first became president. At that time most of us who voted for Bush didn't realize what a nighmare traitor of a president he would become. Most of us had no idea that he would betray the American people like he does!
    Actually, I didn't vote for either of the men, just couldn't hold my nose long enough. We didn't have a choice, but I can fully understand how Pres. Bush seemed the better of the two.

    Even in my jaded, cynical mind, I never would have imagined the damage he would do this country. It just wouldn't have occurred to me.

    For me, there isn't a difference between the two parties or the candidates when it comes to the things that are the most dangerous for this country. They all seem to be on the same wave length when it comes to destroying this country. For that reason, I am sensitive to anything even pretending there is some difference or seeming to show any support for this PResident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    Quote Originally Posted by nntrixie
    Good article,

    The only problem I have is the article is trying to say that somehow Bush represents law abiding citizens.

    This immigration horror and this President's hand in it, should tell everyone this President definitely represents someone other than law abiding citizens.
    I saw this same article when Bush first became president. At that time most of us who voted for Bush didn't realize what a nighmare traitor of a president he would become. Most of us had no idea that he would betray the American people like he does!
    I didn't vote for Bush. After the election, I said that the people who voted for him would regret it. However, in my wildest dream, I did not think that he would do this magnitude of damage to our country. This is something I don't believe anyone could have anticipated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupDeb
    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    Quote Originally Posted by nntrixie
    Good article,

    The only problem I have is the article is trying to say that somehow Bush represents law abiding citizens.

    This immigration horror and this President's hand in it, should tell everyone this President definitely represents someone other than law abiding citizens.
    I saw this same article when Bush first became president. At that time most of us who voted for Bush didn't realize what a nighmare traitor of a president he would become. Most of us had no idea that he would betray the American people like he does!
    I didn't vote for Bush. After the election, I said that the people who voted for him would regret it. However, in my wildest dream, I did not think that he would do this magnitude of damage to our country. This is something I don't believe anyone could have anticipated.

    It's an awful feeling being a republican and seeing the guy you voted for let the country down. Bush betrayed his own party and then went on a mission to destroy the country by allowing this illegal alien invasion that will change this country into something none of us will reconize in a few years"a third world country". I feel this man is evil and he's not alone in his twisted mind. I feel both parties are the same, and now want nothing to do with neither one.

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    Molly

    It was hard on me as well. I am a 3rd generation conservative, TExas Republican. When I was a kid, I thought my family were the only Republicans in TExas. Most of the South and certainly my part of Texas was 'Yellow Dog Democrat' country.

    When you really look back, however, we can realize that both parties have been working together for the things that are destroying this country.

    They may have seemed to fuss and rant and rave - but they have acted in tandem on things like globalization, bad trade deals, illegal immigration, HB workers, politically correct witchhunts, gathering more and more power into the federal government, destroying our education system, etc. etc. The goal to destroy America has been an ongoing thing through many and varied administrations.

    We just thought we had two parties -
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    Quote Originally Posted by nntrixie
    Molly

    It was hard on me as well. I am a 3rd generation conservative, TExas Republican. When I was a kid, I thought my family were the only Republicans in TExas. Most of the South and certainly my part of Texas was 'Yellow Dog Democrat' country.

    When you really look back, however, we can realize that both parties have been working together for the things that are destroying this country.

    They may have seemed to fuss and rant and rave - but they have acted in tandem on things like globalization, bad trade deals, illegal immigration, HB workers, politically correct witchhunts, gathering more and more power into the federal government, destroying our education system, etc. etc. The goal to destroy America has been an ongoing thing through many and varied administrations.

    We just thought we had two parties -
    nntrixie, I think there are a lot of people out there that think like we do about both parties. I feel in a way our own government is terrorizing the American people. Both parties seem to work day and night trying to pass bills that will hurt the American people. They are not representing Americans at all. I can't remember when congress did anything good for America. It seems like over the last decade they have been bending over backwards catering to foreign governments at the expense of the American people. All the front runners in both parties for the 2008 election scare the heck out of me. I'm just praying for a miracle none of them get elected.

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