Thread: Deportation scenario!What would happen if...

50cal you are right ! take away their 'magnets' and they will go home any way - many will.

But things like the anchor babies still bug me. why can a law not be passed like in England and other European countries to prevent anchor baby citizenships AND if possible REVERSE citizenships of all anchor babies who were given so in the last 10 years? Because not doing so we will find in the next 5-10 when those anchor babies become of voting age we truly WILL lose the southwest and gradually more.

those anchor babies votes are what some of the politicians fear and they know that strength is building gradually... well enough to possibly tip the balance of whether GOP or DEMS win .. in major elections

my 2c

On the anchor babies. This is easy. While we may not be able to revoke their citizenship, we are not required to raise them.

When their parents are deported, all dependents under the age of 21 go with the parents with NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND.

When they are 21, have a job, money, a clean criminal record, good health and if we haven't modified the 14th Amendment by then, they can re-enter the United States alone by themselves, not the whole "brood".

Originally Posted by vegasvic

Lets say that all or the majority of illegals will be deported back to their homeland?
What do you think will take place within our borders?

Anarchy/riots?
Work stoppage?
War with Mexico?
International pressure?
American lifestyle will suffer?
Finally some order?

Speak up, we want to hear everything!

Anarchy/riots?

I think that would depend on how it is done. If we don’t target illegal immigrants directly we can avoid that. Target employers first since both sides blame them. Impose large enough fines to make hiring an illegal too risky. Instead of making illegal immigration a felony, make falsifying documentation (ss card, birth certificate ect…) a felony. Introduce anti-terror legislation that requires a U.S. Government issued documentation to be shown to open a bank account, turn on public utilities, renting and so on along with a verification system. (Terrorists don’t work but, they have to live somewhere and it is easier to deport a felon) Enforce current legislation against sanctuary policies. Hold federal funding for states that allow driver licenses, in-state tuition, social services and so on to illegals because new laws would not be needed. Increase border and port security to reduce terrorism, drug trafficking, and human smuggling

Work stoppage?

Agriculture jobs will be the hardest hit along with the service sector will be hit significantly but there are Americans that can fill them. There is a huge population of non-violent criminals who deserve to work in the fields all day at 17 cents an hour. Charge employers full rate and give the tax payers the rest. The current high school dropout rate is 33%. There are over 2 million homeless people. Most of them really can’t be that picky if they want to eat. Provide incentives like help with getting a GED or getting housing as long as they hold a job in a needed industry.

War with Mexico?

No, Mexico is one of our largest trading partners and Mexico isn’t that stupid. Mexico will however attempt to affect our policies using the same techniques as they do now and strive to maintain strong ties with all generations of Mexicans in the U.S.

International pressure?

Europe is very opinioned and does have socialist views on many issues but they will never take too strong of a measure against us. We would need to keep from forcibly deporting millions of people. You only need a few over blown media stories to control public opinion.

American lifestyle will suffer?

No, you would have more Americans earning a living and putting 100% of their money back into the US economy. This will reduce their dependancies on social services and remove the strain of illegals.

Judy....there's tons of rackets out there with these lower wage jobs. And employers that take full advantage of them. Everything from avoiding to have to offer insurance, to set-ups to get rid of people right before their retirement, to cutting your hours to 2 hrs. a week to drive you out so you quit instead of being able to collect un-employment for a slow down in business.......gosh I could go on and on. I know alot of people who go into like K=mart or wal-mart and are mad coz they can't find anyone to help them and figure they're goofing around somewhere.....no, they're unloading a semi out back....or hours have been cut to compensate for the few paid vacations they offer, etc. You have no idea how many people have worked at those places for 10-15 years, head of a department and make 10.25 an hour. Instead of a raise they'll toss K-mart bucks your way. Now mind you it takes ALOT of K-mart bucks to get anything. They're worth about 50 cents. Ya sure....there's a few wonder stories to keep the image going but as a whole it's definatly NOT the way it used to be.

If this were to happen, I believe the most noticable difference would be overall involvement. Yes, there would be riots. Yes, there would be many injuries and most likely a few deaths. Things like this would get more people paying attention and communicating their ideas. Could be good, could be bad.

The determining factors would really be how the plan would be executed and at what point would the plan be terminated or reversed. If proper warning was given for the beginning date of deporation, the deportees and their supporters would have time to prepare an opposition. If no warning was given, many people in support of deportation may switch sides out of sympathy. This really seems to be a no win situation.

The best plan of action, IMO, would be to do as follows:
1) Close and secure the borders.
2) Deport illegal immigrants as they are arrested for breaking other laws.
3) Announce to the U.S. that the borders are now secured and that anyone crossing illegally after this point would be treated as criminals and deported.
4) Take responsibility for not securing borders and enforcing laws in the past by setting up a system to legalize all illegal immigrants who crossed the border before the official date of the secured border.
5) Set up a supply and demand based system for future immigration. IOW, regulate immigration in a manner where no alien can migrate to the U.S. without meeting the requirements for a specific job that no unemployed U.S. citizen can currently fill.

Good plan except for item 4. "take responsibility for not securing the borders". The American People are not responsible for the US Government failing to enforce US Immigration Law. The individuals in the US Government responsible for ignoring US Immigration Law; their duties; their jobs; and their sworn oaths...are responsible.

This "take responsibility" has occurred before in our history. The result is the mess we have today. Should we let all drug dealers and drug users out of prison because we failed to enforce our drug laws and not prevent ther crimes?

Illegal aliens came here knowing they were violating our laws the same as a speeder, the same as a rapist, the same as a drunk driver, the same as a thief, a robber, a liar, a fraud, a cheat, a swindler....any law breaker.

It is NOT the responsibility of the American People to remedy the illegal alien presence in our country.

It is time for illegal aliens TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for hopping our borders by hopping right back over the border and hiking to their nation and camping there....where they belong.

No Amnesty.

No Guest Worker Program.

Deport all these people.

Get them out and keep them out.

There will be riots. Some planned some random and spuratic but non the less there will be riots and violence. The states better start calling back their National Guards from Iraq. Cause we are going to need them sooner than later right here at home.

As for job shortages, the only area that would be effected would be farm work. Even on Construction there are 10's of thousands of construction workers waiting for their jobs back. The only area that housing may be effected on is in communuties that are in high growth spurts. Most of the average USA isn't. Most are in very depressed housing growth and job markets. If there are no jobs and no new jobs then fewer houses built.

Employers and government more than likely will jack up prices. Let's face it they jack them up for any reason. Even if it is their screw up it comes out of our pockets. Americans stopped fighting that many years ago and let them run rampide on it. Bottom line expect at least a few areas to go up. If the sky turns purple the guy will jack up the price of toilet bowel cleaner, just cause he can.

I agree that if jobs to ILLEGAL"S dry up many will leave on their own at their own expense. Others will crank up the gang mob behavior and try to survive off stealing etc. Till they get caught. Anchor babies will have the privelge of duel citizenship, but are under the sole authority and care of their parents whomever they are. My hunch is many will saddle their legal relative with the kids, leaving them here. And there will be the constant "poor mom" stories on the news of the mother who kept risking her life to cross ILLEGALLY to be with her babies....

Our government will continue to manipulate the situation threw the laws. Which will mean vigulance for many many years to come.

According to TNRIP, the financial cost of this foreign invasion to U.S. taxpayers is staggering! Here is a break down of the annual costs:

Education: $22.5 billion
Bi-lingual Education: $3.3 billion
AFDC: $2.4 billion
SSI: $2.9 billion
Social Security: $24.8 billion
Housing Assistance: $2.6 billion
Criminal Justice: $2.6 billion
Jobs Lost by Americans: $10.8 billion
Other Programs: $51.4 billion
Food Stamps: $7 billion
Health Care: $1.4 billion (That Totals $131.7 BILLION Annually Folks


If all programs are cut off at once. We will have 131.7 Billion in funds to devote to deportation and securing the boarders. If government mandated that all forms of transportation used in deportation be at cost. That would help more too. But, in my opinion there is enough money here to get it done.

If every American takes it upon themselves as their duty to report the were abouts of ILLEGAL's that would also save expense in hunting them down. I understand they are stopping cars at intersections in New York, and gathering up ILLEGAL's now. We could be working on that now too.

I think some silent things in our country will change the most. I think we will begin to see a new breed of politician come of it. Maybe more the kind we had years ago. I think there will be a message loud and clear we have all had enough. And I think the internal American pride and faith, so many have lost will be restored.

a ) Anarchy/riots?
b )Work stoppage?
c )War with Mexico?
d ) International pressure?
e )American lifestyle will suffer?
f )Finally some order?


a1 ) yes, probably ethnic street/gang wars, race riots
b1 ) No, as US citizens can take over the jobs of illegals
c1 ) No
d1 ) Yes, not by countries but by certain internanional human right groups
e1 ) Illegal aliens don't contribute to American lifesyle, so our lifestyle won't suffer
f1 ) On the long run, yes.

Originally Posted by Jezzabell

There will be riots. <snip>
Anchor babies will have the privelge of duel citizenship, but are under the sole authority and care of their parents whomever they are. My hunch is many will saddle their legal relative with the kids, leaving them here.

I agree there will be riots. Huge riots ! No getting away from it considering the anger displayed already. They will not go peacefully.

As far as "anchor babies" I believe we can pass legislation to take that status away retroactively. Not positive but I heard some politician on radio. Don't remember who. It's insanity as it is. I keep getting visions of 8 month pregnant Mexican teens being smuggled in crowded vans or herded across the desert. Enough of this!

I agree ....
"Stop all Government aid for all illegals. Medical, education and welfare. The money saved there just put half into enforcement.
[Start enforcing our current laws that if you hire an illegal you get fined (I may be wrong on amount) $5,000.00 per illegal. Put that money back into enforcement. "


With this there will be no riots... now some people may be in the street but no real riot ... and that only when the word is given about inforcement ... it will take a year or so to get things moving and the country will have time to adjust ...

My hat is off the the fantastic people of GA ... they know how to keep their state American