Great idea, Jean! :D
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Great idea, Jean! :D
Crocket....how do we opt out? I don't understand. Can you please elaborate?Quote:
Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost
:D Way to Go JEAN.Quote:
Originally Posted by jean
How about everyone send this to the media? Radio, etc..
The red carpet has been rolled out to Mexico to walk all of its poor right into the U.S. And I just don't understand. Doesn't our Federal Government see the future consequences of absorbing hundreds of millions of Mexico's poor? Can it really be true that all they're seeing is future voters and warm bodies to perform cheap, menial labor?
I'm really scared. For the first time, my predominant feelings aren't anger....they're fear. Pure, unadulterated fear.
americangirl wote:
You are not alone. I am fluctuateing between fear and anger. The anger is more motivating so I will try to roll with it. I have lots of calls to make and faxes to send off! Like Sis said we need to get ahead of congress this time instead of trying to catch up with them. Hang in there! We can still kick some butt!Quote:
I'm really scared. For the first time, my predominant feelings aren't anger....they're fear. Pure, unadulterated fear.
Imho, everyone had better get PISSED..........VERY, VERY PISSED and turn that into energy to knock them on their collective asses.
my 2 cents
The US government wants what Mexico has. An enormous uneducated, poor, docile working class. They want to destroy the middle-class that previous generations worked do hard to secure. They want the wages, lack of health care, lack of work-place safety, and lack of environmental regulation that Mexico has. I never thought I would think this way, and I hate to.......But it is obvious. Our government is full of treasonous back stabbers. It is up to the people to save our nation.....And we will. Just stay dedicated. Thomas Jefferson is looking down on us, let's make him proud :)Quote:
Originally Posted by americangirl
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2ndamendsis wrote:
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everyone had better get PISSED..........VERY, VERY PISSED
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I'm there, just have to think deeply for a minute about open borders and red carpets for illegals!
ABSOLUTELY!! One of the biggest misnomers of today's popular culture is this whole idea that "anger is bad." Damnit, if you are not an angry American, than you are dead from the neck up.........Anger can be VERY GOOD. Well placed, well directed, and well channeled ANGER.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis
Today's pop-culture wants us to just be happy with our MP3s, Ipods, and flat-screens. Hey man just play into the globalist/consumer culture.....Don't be angry, just go with the flow. Its an Orwellian nightmare. We choose to be alive, awake, and stand up to fight the powers that be. Let that fire drive you to make change!!!
BearFlagRepublic wrote:
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We choose to be alive, awake, and stand up to fight the powers that be. Let that fire drive you to make change!!!
Well said!
Damn, isn't that the truth, LOL.Quote:
if you are not an angry American, than you are dead from the neck up
I'm jealous that I didn't think of that first :lol: :lol:
You have made yourself a subsidiary of the the federal entity and subjected yourself to its direct legislative authority (rather than the indirect legislative authority originally intended). By identifying yourself as a "US citizen," you have subordinated yourself pursuant Amendment XIV's jurisdiction clause. The Supreme Court determined that the federal entity has the status in law of "foreign corporation" with respect to the several states and the natural citizens thereof, and so the jurisdiction governing the relationship between that entity and the naturals and states is the lex mercatorum, with the underlying contract being the compact encoded in the Constitution of the United States of America, while the contract underlying the relationship between the federal entity and ITS citizens is the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations.) Pursuant the Slaughterhouse cases, we know that the federal regulations are not limited by the Bill of Rights when applied internally (between the federal entity and its citizens).Quote:
Originally Posted by americangirl
So what you need is an action in Admiralty to free yourself from the agreements and an affidavit of status making clear that it was never your intent to identify yourself as a subject of the federal entity and claiming your status as an American natural.
:lol: No need to be jealous, Sis, I have heard many profound/true statements from you. :lol:
Well the bright side is there are alot of us that are alive from the neck up and ready kick butt!
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I still haven't heard an actual plan. Sadly, I'm all too familiar with those who talk a good game but then walk in the other direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by April
What is the plan? What butt are you going to kick? How do you intend to kick it?
Well, we are throwing ideas around. The idea of a march has been thrown out there. I support it, and I asked if anyone has ideas on how to organise it. I don't have all of the answers, so I am open to what ideas other people have on organising a march on Washington.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost
First and foremost, we need to hear from William and get his advice on how to proceed since he is the front person for our group, so that we are all on the same page.
I think in the meantime we need to gather a list of contacts from all of the other organizations that we normally partner with when issues arise and make sure they are informed about the finalization of the NAU.
CG, I was naturalized as citizen of United States of America that means I have to be federal governated ?
does this means that all naturalized citizens cannot claime any natural born.?
This sounds bad for us.Quote:
You have made yourself a subsidiary of the the federal entity and subjected yourself to its direct legislative authority (rather than the indirect legislative authority originally intended). By identifying yourself as a "US citizen," you have subordinated yourself pursuant Amendment XIV's jurisdiction clause. The Supreme Court determined that the federal entity has the status in law of "foreign corporation" with respect to the several states and the natural citizens thereof, and so the jurisdiction governing the relationship between that entity and the naturals and states is the lex mercatorum, with the underlying contract being the compact encoded in the Constitution of the United States of America, while the contract underlying the relationship between the federal entity and ITS citizens is the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations.) Pursuant the Slaughterhouse cases, we know that the federal regulations are not limited by the Bill of Rights when applied internally (between the federal entity and its citizens).
So what you need is an action in Admiralty to free yourself from the agreements and an affidavit of status making clear that it was never your intent to identify yourself as a subject of the federal entity and claiming your status as an American natural.
How much do you want to bet President Bush might be asking the same questions? :lol:Quote:
What is the plan? What butt are you going to kick? How do you intend to kick it?
I think I can almost hear it. :?
Gee, that sounds like an everyday event. 8OQuote:
So what you need is an action in Admiralty to free yourself from the agreements and an affidavit of status making clear that it was never your intent to identify yourself as a subject of the federal entity and claiming your status as an American natural
May I share the story of how this information came into the light?
I realize that everyone's looking for a PLAN but do you realize how recent this dangerous information came across our desks? It was very late last night or early in the morn......I've lost track of time.
I'd like to both give accolades to the gals that deserve the credit as well as try to show how important it is to continually mine through legislation, read everthing carefully in order to connect the dots cause they're throwing the knives by the bucketful now.
I sent OLIVER some information she needed and she continued the search.
OLIVER then found a piece of older legislation/amendment that has recently been recycled. Sent that to me to look over and evaluate.
I sent OLIVER'S search to KATE so that 2 heads could read through and evaluate. KATE then did a quick scan of the DHS site. I had been so busy that I hadn't scanned the DHS site for over a month. KATE then saw this EXPLOSIVE NEW INFO and immediately gave me a heads up. We've been working ever since.
That's how this happened. God works in truly mysterious ways.
Planning takes time, however, ACTION STARTS NOW.
Every single member of both houses of Congress must know that we know! I'll wager that THEY DON'T KNOW!!
That's step one and That will keep everyone quite busy while this information is being digested.
Just direct us, Sis on the necessary actions. Does NumbersUSA know about this yet so that they can get it out?
Thank you, Vix.
So, we focus on Congress, not Bush. Okay, fine. What should we tell them? I think they're just a bunch of chickens, myself. They have nothing to be afraid of, and if you ask me, almost all of them are afraid. They all act as though they're walking on eggshells. All talk, no action.
That seems to be our Congress. :? :roll:
Bush ignores us and Congress seems to be made up of a bunch of scaredy cats. :roll:
Great fix we're in, America. :?
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Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen
I don't know anything at this point.
We're still processing this and trying to get our ALIPAC members up to date with it.
It's so new to us! We were in shock.
Kate took that copy this morning just in case that they DELETED IT from the DHS website........as has been done in the past with many websites when they realize that we're furious. {PENCE's amnesty plan is a great example}
To tell everyone my feeling........I don't think anyone else knows about this! I don't think others are used to scanning like we are and this is recent. I think that this was done after the Ottowa SPP/NAU meeting!!!
Slipped it into the site to get folks used to seeing it.
:arrow: Remember how crazy I was about the kennedy amendment that they tried to slip into the Minimum Wage bill? Very few people understood what I was trying to explain but I'm certain that this is serious.
WELL! Guess what folks............BINATIONAL HEALTH CARE w/MEXICO is mentioned in many documents that we've discovered both older and NEW.
that kennedy amendment was a trial balloon.......it's coming on other legislation.
Someone here posted something about the CFR, I have spent the past two days on the internet reading and reading and puking and amazed and horrified!
I went to Google and searched for members, there are MANY I MEAN MANY who are in power in our government TODAY!!! and even more who were, like BOTH CLINTONS!, G HW BUSH, Condoleezza Rice, even Colin Powel, and yes Angelina Jolie (imagine and they call themselves a think tank).
I watched in disbelief as Walter Cronkite said we needed to embrace the ICC and he too was a member of the CFR. They want us to join the UN, they want us to become part of the New World Order, open our borders, take away our evil guns and then tell us what we can and cannot do.
We need to write, we need to scream, we need everyones attention, we need to find out which members of congress, senate and other government offices are ALREADY members of the CFR and GET THEM OUT OF OFFICE!!! They will do exactly what Bush has done, and sign agreements against OUR CONSTITUTION making deals with foreign countries that are against what America stands for.
I am waiting for that one site to reply to me, to tell me what I can do here in Nevada, and if they dont, I am planning a trip to Washington with my two kids, I will sell what I have to and make that dang trip.
Mod Edit
careful here. Rule 2.5 and we generally don't give a freebie with this one folks.
BEFORE I give my country up!!!!!!
and I mean it!
vix :evil:
2ndamendsis wrote:
Great work Ladies! Yes God does work in mysterious ways! :) We are going to be working as well! I agree action starts NOW!!!!Quote:
I'd like to both give accolades to the gals that deserve the credit as well as try to show how important it is to continually mine through legislation, read everthing carefully in order to connect the dots cause they're throwing the knives by the bucketful now.
I sent OLIVER some information she needed and she continued the search.
OLIVER then found a piece of older legislation/amendment that has recently been recycled. Sent that to me to look over and evaluate.
I sent OLIVER'S search to KATE so that 2 heads could read through and evaluate. KATE then did a quick scan of the DHS site. I had been so busy that I hadn't scanned the DHS site for over a month. KATE then saw this EXPLOSIVE NEW INFO and immediately gave me a heads up. We've been working ever since.
That's how this happened. God works in truly mysterious ways.
Planning takes time, however, ACTION STARTS NOW.
LegalUSCitizen wrote:
True, we are going to have to strongly encourage Congress to develop a back bone. They will get no relief until they start acting on what the American people want. This is going to take a dedicated effort ! I know we are up to it! We just need to stay motivated and we are very angry so that should not be a problem! :x :x :xQuote:
Bush ignores us and Congress seems to be made up of a bunch of scaredy cats.
Great fix we're in, America.
2ndamendsis wrote:
That was serendipity!!! Like all of coming together at this point in history.Quote:
I sent OLIVER some information she needed and she continued the search.
OLIVER then found a piece of older legislation/amendment that has recently been recycled. Sent that to me to look over and evaluate.
I sent OLIVER'S search to KATE so that 2 heads could read through and evaluate. KATE then did a quick scan of the DHS site. I had been so busy that I hadn't scanned the DHS site for over a month. KATE then saw this EXPLOSIVE NEW INFO and immediately gave me a heads up. We've been working ever since.
That's how this happened. God works in truly mysterious ways.
EXCELLENT!! Thank you vix! Lots of good organizations behind this march. I did not see Tancredo's name as a confirmed supporter, but Dobbs was on the list. I hope Lou puts great emphasis of this march on his show--maybe he will even show up. Good to see Chris Simcox and Cindy Kolbe on the list of confirmed speakers. I have seen their work with the minutemen, and they are both great patriots. We should make plans and save money to make it out there in June!!! I have a friend who enjoys traveling, loves politics, and agrees with us 100%. I think we can make it for June. I am very excited to hear this :DQuote:
Originally Posted by vixfromPahrump
Pursuant Amendment XIV, all naturalized citizens are federal subjects. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by minnie
Yeah well, it's just proof that most Americans don't want to hear the truth. They want an easy fix. They want to slap a name on a petition or send someone a donation to do the work for them. If this generation traded places with that of the Founding Fathers, we would all still be slaves to the Crown.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen
But yeah, what I describe is in fact an everyday event and there are at least hundreds of thousands of Americans taking that bold step every year, with literally millions (according to the IRS's own estimates) having done so over the past couple of decades. But that's still a tiny percentage.
CrocketsGhost wrote:
You are so damned right. I hope, for their sakes, they cannot look down on us, ashamed and disappointed, at what we have become.Quote:
Yeah well, it's just proof that most Americans don't want to hear the truth. They want an easy fix. They want to slap a name on a petition or send someone a donation to do the work for them. If this generation traded places with that of the Founding Fathers, we would all still be slaves to the Crown.
CrocketsGhost wrote:
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what all that means. You say lots of people are doing this, but what exactly are they doing, and how? I'm VERY intrigued, and I apolgize for my density here. Can you please explain this more indepth?Quote:
So what you need is an action in Admiralty to free yourself from the agreements and an affidavit of status making clear that it was never your intent to identify yourself as a subject of the federal entity and claiming your status as an American natural.
If I file an "action in Admiralty"...what exactly am I filing? And what agreements am I freeing myself from? Once this is done, what are the ramifications? How does it change my life?
Hi Guys and Gals, I have e-mailed all my local talk show hosts. All my national and state reps and a major talk show host in Portland Oregon. I will see what kind of response I get and post back here when I do. I will start Calling my Reps when I get home tomorrow from work. Keep up the good fight.
I'm not going to give you specific legal advice in an open forum, but basically there must be produced an underlying agreement in Admiralty in order for the powers claimed by the federal government and its agencies and services to be legitimate. You can make a demand for presentation of the agreement and, when that agreement is not presented, obtain a nil dictum judgment.Quote:
Originally Posted by americangirl
The ramifications are that you woun't be eligible for federal benefits, may or may not be able to use banks, and may or may not be able to obtain credit. On the positive side, you may cease to be liable for certain taxes, fees and tributes and will gain the ability to obtain equitable title to property. You will also retain your natural rights and other rights, such as the right to redress.
DHS is in violation of the constitutional obligation to protect our borders and this STINKING PRESIDENT NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED FOR SITTING BY AND LETTING THIS HAPPEN. Do you still want to debate this, CrocketsGhost?
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What a slick sick shell game our government has perpetrated on the citizens of this Nation! If you need a definition of shell game here it is,
The shell game (also known as Thimblerig, Three shells and a pea, the old army game) is portrayed as a gambling game, but in reality, when a wager for money is made, it is an illegal confidence trick used to perpetrate fraud. In bunko slang, this famous swindle is referred to as a short-con because it is quick and easy to pull off.This my friends has to be the biggest shell game in history. I will start writing my Okla leaders tomorrow evening, and anyone else I can think of, has anyone sent this to Lou? Is any other forums sayng anything about this? Of late, I have had to miss a lot, don't get to visit many other forums if any last few months, I hope others aside from us are jumping on this also. This makes me physically want to retch, at the same time tremble, hoping I am up for this fight, we cannot let this go, there are so many people to contact, and things to contact them about, what a mighty race we find ourselves in, everything closing in at the same time. I now understand just how insidious political correctness can be and how it has been used in our country to get "us" American citizens ready for our gov. to simply try to plow right over our protest of what they are doing. We have been brainwashed the last few years with this sickness of PC, and might very well lose our country because of it, now stupid and how like sheep, many of us including myself,have been, not anymore, ever again! :evil: :evil:
NITTY
take your time, one step at a time. :D
Don't burn out, my friend! Do what you can do and get back up to fight another day.
As far as I know, we might be the first people to have this information.
I explained how this came about a page or 2 back.
It's up to us to get this out to everyone we possibly can. I'm sure once the new week begins it will be easier to disseminate it.