Thanks Sis, I will, I am learning or trying to how to pace myself, It ain't been easy. :lol: I just sometimes as you well know, get a little overwhelmed!
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Thanks Sis, I will, I am learning or trying to how to pace myself, It ain't been easy. :lol: I just sometimes as you well know, get a little overwhelmed!
I agree, he would make the perfect first total impeached president of these united states. I don't just went him to be impeached but removed also, what he is doing is much much worst then Andrew johnson. Clinton he signed nafta so he is pretty bad also, but George Bush for getting us into a north american union. Heck he should spend jail time try the rest of his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockfish
Yes, he deserves to be impeached. I am sure if any of our fore fathers were alive they would agree. I do not think that there is time to impeach and remove him. The most that would happen is start impeachment and keep him busy trying to cover his butt instead of continuing to push full force on his Mexico agenda.Quote:
Rockfish wrote:
DHS is in violation of the constitutional obligation to protect our borders and this STINKING PRESIDENT NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED FOR SITTING BY AND LETTING THIS HAPPEN. Do you still want to debate this, CrocketsGhost?
Matthewcloseborders wrote:
I agree, he would make the perfect first total impeached president of these united states. I don't just went him to be impeached but removed also, what he is doing is much much worst then Andrew johnson. Clinton he signed nafta so he is pretty bad also, but George Bush for getting us into a north american union. Heck he should spend jail time try the rest of his life.
We need to put pressure full force on Congress and keep it on until the idiots listen to the American people. This thing seems totally out of control but if we unite and push they will feel the shove. GOOO ACTIVISTS!!! Lets hit those phones and faxes!http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...heerleader.gif
I don't agree with this at all.Quote:
The most that would happen is start impeachment and keep him busy trying to cover his butt instead of continuing to push full force on his Mexico agenda.
The most serious result that this would bring is that while congress kept US busy with an impeachment circus - they WILL pass the AMNESTY/ NAU LEGISLATION right under our noses.
Having said that, my opinion on impeachment isn't important in this thread........I'm going to request that any talk of impeachment is kept off of this particular thread so that we can stay FOCUSED on this thread's mission which is to get out the information about the DHS'S DECLARATION OF OPEN BORDERS. This is crunch time!
Sis, that is just my personal opinion. I do not think any of us know for sure what impeachent would do or not do ,however, I agree it is crunch time and it is time to put all that anger full force into faxes, emails and phone calls to get this thing turned around.
Thanx, APRIL.Quote:
Originally Posted by April
Like I said, my opinion doesn't matter either within this particular conversation.
I'm fighting to keep my eye on the ball! It's not easy with so much 'stuff' swirling around us but I'm pouring all my strength into it - staying as focused as possible - cutting out the peripherals.
You're welcome Sis! Lets keep our eye on the ball and our phones and faxes hot ! :D
Here's the link to the members of the CFR (and the article posted), boy are there a lot of traders in our country:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/cfr-members.htm
The Council on Foreign Relations and the New World Order
By Charles Overbeck (PSCPirhana) Matrix Editor
The Council on Foreign Relations, housed in the Harold Pratt House on East 68th Street in New York City, was founded in 1921. In 1922, it began publishing a journal called Foreign Affairs. According to Foreign Affairs' web page (http://www.foreignaffairs.org), the CFR was founded when "...several of the American participants in the Paris Peace Conference decided that it was time for more private American Citizens to become familiar with the increasing international responsibilities and obligations of the United States."
The first question that comes to mind is, who gave these people the authority to decide the responsibilities and obligations of the United States, if that power was not granted to them by the Constitution. Furthermore, the CFR's web page doesn't publicize the fact that it was originally conceived as part of a much larger network of power.
According to the CFR's Handbook of 1936, several leading members of the delegations to the Paris Peace Conference met at the Hotel Majestic in Paris on May 30, 1919, "to discuss setting up an international group which would advise their respective governments on international affairs."
The Handbook goes on to say, "At a meeting on June 5, 1919, the planners decided it would be best to have separate organizations cooperating with each other. Consequently, they organized the Council on Foreign Relations, with headquarters in New York, and a sister organization, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, in London, also known as the Chatham House Study Group, to advise the British Government. A subsidiary organization, the Institute of Pacific Relations, was set up to deal exclusively with Far Eastern Affairs. Other organizations were set up in Paris and Hamburg..."
The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today, CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
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The CFR's Shroud of Secretcy
On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
This point is underscored a paragraph later on their web page: "Perhaps best known for the history-making "X" article by George Kennan, that defined Cold War containment policy, a recent Foreign Affairs article by Harvard's Samuel Huntington, "The Clash of Civilizations?" has already helped define the post-Cold War debate."
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases.
The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red flags for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more.
There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
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Tragedy and Hope: The Global Elite
Dr. Quigley knew a lot about the behind-the-scenes work of global power because he was a part of that power network for most of his life. In his book, Tragedy and Hope, Quigley states:
"I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversions to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies ... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."
The "Hope" in the title of Quigley's book represents the thousand-year reign of a collectivist one-world society which will be created when the "network" achieves its goal of world government. Quigley believed that the "network" is so powerful at this point that resistance by the common people is futile. Hence, those who resist the schemes of the globalist planners represent the "Tragedy." By Dr. Quigley's logic, there is no point in struggling against the noose around our necks, because resistance will merely guarantee strangulation.
Dr. Quigley identified the "network" as the "international bankers," men who were "different from ordinary bankers in distinctive ways: they were cosmopolitan and international; they were close to governments and were particularly concerned with questions of government debts...; they were almost exclusively devoted to secrecy and the secret use of financial influence in political life. These bankers came to be called international bankers, and, more particularly, were known as merchant bankers in England, private bankers in France, and investment bankers in the United States."
The core of control, according to Dr. Quigley, resides in the financial dynasties of Europe and America who exercise political control through international financial combines. The primary tactic of control is lending money at high interest to governments and monarchs during times of crisis. An example of this is the current national debt in the U.S., which is at five trillion dollars right now. Every penny of it is owed to the Federal Reserve, a corporation comprised of thirteen private banks.
According to Dr. Quigley, the Council on Foreign Relations is one of several front organizations set up by the network's inner circle to advance its schemes. The ultimate goal: a New World Order.
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CFR and the New World Order
According to State Department Publication 2349, submitted by secretary of State and CFR member Edward Stettinius, a committee on "post-war problems" was set up before the end of 1939 at the suggestion of the CFR. In other words, two years before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, the CFR was planning how to order the world after the war ended.
In 1946, the Rockefeller Foundation spent almost $140,000 to produce a history of how the United States entered World War II. This history was intended to counter "revisionist" historians who argued that the U.S. was "tricked" into the war by the Roosevelt Administration. The Rockefeller family has always taken a lead role in the CFR.
In the 1960s, while American men and women were dying in the jungles of Vietnam and while the military/industrial complex was sucking trillions of dollars out of American taxpayers' wallets, the Rockefeller dynasty was financing Vietnamese oil refineries and aluminum plants. If there had ever been a formal declaration of war, the Rockefellers could be tried for treason. Instead, they reaped dividends.
These are just a few of the abuses of power which demonstrate the results of the power elite's manipulations of our destiny as a society. If you've ever wondered why you don't hear about this network of power, just take a look at the CFR's membership roster (posted online in ParaScope). Many of the chief executives and newspeople at CBS, NBC/RCA, ABC, the Public Broadcast Service, the Associated Press, the New York Times, Time magazine, Newsweek, the Washington Post, and many other key media outlets are CFR members.
Even if these members of the media's elite had the inclination to report on what they saw and heard at CFR meetings, they are prevented from doing so by the Non-Attribution Rule. To put this in perspective: many of the people who are trusted to provide information about national and world politics are deliberately withholding crucial information from the public because of membership in a secretive globalist organization.
This organization has taken it upon itself to participate in the manufacturing of a new vision for humanity, and dissidence will not be tolerated. If you believe the words of Carroll Quigley, all resistance is futile and doomed to failure. If you believe the rhetoric of internationalists in our own government, the current "trend towards isolationism" will result in a loss of American hegemony in the New World Order, leaving the United States a wrecked Third World wasteland.
World government can come in time, piece by piece, arrived at through the full participation and consensus of the human beings who will be affected by the negotiations. But the idea of the world's elite determining what path that the common herd should follow is repulsive to the human spirit. The story of the CFR goes far deeper than this brief report, and is interlocked with several other international power groups.
International power orgs depend on the masses remaining ignorant for their plans to come to fruition. It's up to you to do your own research and draw your own conclusion. But remember: there's a hell of a lot more to the story than Dan Rather will ever tell you. Educate yourself, or remain a passive consumer. The choice is entirely yours.
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Sources
Council on Foreign Relations/Foreign Affairs web pages:
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/
Nittygritty wrote:
Isn't there an old saying about 'he who controls the language controls the debate'. Sadly, this is right up there with multi-culturalism and its cry for a 'salad bowl' in America vs. a 'melting pot'. Both have insidiously infected our culture and make it all the more difficult to fight for anything. A very few, loud people started these stupid movements in America and I think we have the numbers to undo them.Quote:
I now understand just how insidious political correctness can be and how it has been used in our country to get "us" American citizens ready for our gov. to simply try to plow right over our protest of what they are doing.
But it's time we put an end to both and not be afraid of the name callers. It is time to keep focused and press forward every way we can.
Olivermyboy wrote:
I agree,I think we have the numbers to undo them.I am pressing forward RIGHT NOW with Faxes, emails and phone calls!! PRESSURE ON!!!!!!!Quote:
A very few, loud people started these stupid movements in America and I think we have the numbers to undo them.
But it's time we put an end to both and not be afraid of the name callers. It is time to keep focused and press forward every way we can.