DHS chief gets earful from Dems on immigration

DHS chief gets earful from Dems on immigration

03/17/17 11:55 AM EDT

http://thehill.com/sites/default/fil...?itok=HNJclblh

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly got an earful on Friday from House Democrats outraged over President Trump’s aggressive approach to immigration enforcement.

Kelly met with the Democrats in the Capitol, where the lawmakers — particularly members of the Congressional Hispanic and Asian Pacific caucuses — sounded off against Trump’s crackdown on undocumented immigrants and his executive orders barring refugees and travelers from six Muslim-majority countries.

Kelly, for his part, said he’s simply upholding the law, according to a source in the room. But he also emphasized that he opposes many parts of the law, pleading with the Democrats to change it.

“If you don't like the laws we are enforcing, and I don't like many of them, please, please, please change the law,” he said, according to the source.

Rep. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D-N.M.), head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, led the charge for the Democrats, accusing the administration of disregarding due process protections and instilling fear in immigrant communities, according to the source.

She’s been up in arms since last month, when several Hispanic Democrats were barred from a briefing by officials at the Department of Homeland Security’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) branch.

Kelly did not back down, according to the source, saying he’s taken a “different philosophical” tack than his predecessor, Jeh Johnson, when it comes to border security.

When Rep. Judy Chu (D-Calif.), Congress’s first Chinese-American lawmaker, raised concerns that racial bias has been a factor underlying deportations, Kelly rebuffed the suggestion.

"I reject just about everything you said about my people acting [with] prejudices and biases,” he said, according to the source.

"In every issue, there has been legal issues that they did what they did. But it's not because their religion or the color of their skin or their politics. … I don't report anyone, ICE doesn't deport anyone, the laws and the judges of the United States does. ... The Department of Homeland Security does not deport anyone."

The Democrats are also concerned that the administration’s new deportation approach leaves those benefitting from former President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program newly vulnerable to deportations.

Kelly suggested those “dreamers” are still protected — as long as he’s in charge.

”I’m the best thing that happened to DACA,” he said, according to the source. “It is still on the books."

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...on-immigration

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“If you don't like the laws we are enforcing, and I don't like many of them, please, please, please change the law,” he said, according to the source.

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WRONG ANSWER, KELLY!!! WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!!

Our immigration laws are good, they are necessary, they are just, they are fair and there is nothing not to like. SHAME ON YOU!!

GRRRR!!!! STOP PANDERING TO DEMOQUACK TRAITORS who would all sell their first born for another vote from an illegal alien and another cartel payment. STOP IT RIGHT NOW!!

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly supports amnesty according to this report. He takes credit for DACA amnesty going forward and he knows that this breaks a promise that President Trump made to the American people to end it day one. He also had a voice in refugees flowing in from Iraq, removing them from travel order.

DACA Betrayal. So is General Kelly saying he would resign over DACA and that he wants democrats to work to give a greater amnesty.

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Kelly suggested those “dreamers” are still protected — as long as he’s in charge.

”I’m the best thing that happened to DACA,” he said, according to the source. “It is still on the books."

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Let General Kelly resign then.

END DACA, END THE WORK PERMITS, DEPORT THEM ALL.

We did NOT elect General Kelly President. No more free rides for these illegals...put the hammer down on them.

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly supports amnesty according to this report. He takes credit for DACA amnesty going forward and he knows that this breaks a promise that President Trump made to the American people to end it day one. He also had a voice in refugees flowing in from Iraq, removing them from travel order.

DACA Betrayal. So is General Kelly saying he would resign over DACA and that he wants democrats to work to give a greater amnesty.

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Trump will take this down. Just give him time. Kelly doesn't even understand that DACA does NOT protect illegal alien DACA's. It's just a deferred action, it's not "sanctuary" by any means. Most of them are even priority targets because they run drugs, they've broken laws, they're on welfare, and many are visa-overstays -- priority targets under Trump's immigration orders.

So Kelly isn't going to do a Memo to cancel DACA. That means that Sessions does it as AG on "unconstitutionality" or Trump will have to do it with an EO.

Kelly definitely gives the impression he is the reason DACA still stands.

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”I’m the best thing that happened to DACA,” he said, according to the source. “It is still on the books."

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Maybe he made keeping DACA a condition of accepting Trump's nomination (just speculation).

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Originally Posted by MW

Kelly definitely gives the impression he is the reason DACA still stands.



Maybe he made keeping DACA a condition of accepting Trump's nomination (just speculation).

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I also wondered about this MW. He opposed Kris Kobach who would have pressed for DACA to end as promised and who would have widened targets for deportation.

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

I also wondered about this MW. He opposed Kris Kobach who would have pressed for DACA to end as promised and who would have widened targets for deportation.

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I hope it's not true, but if it is, Trump should have made it clear to Kelly that ending DACA was a campaign promise and he intended on keeping it. Accepting such a condition from Kelly doesn't make President Trump seem quite as steadfast on the position as he led us to believe.

There is a reason Trump didn't keep his promise. I suppose this reason makes as much sense as anything else.

Keep your promise, Mr. President, end DACA now!

Kelly is working for the ryan bunch and Trump allows it. Think Trump was aware of "conditions" to attaining his presidency. As far as not fulfilling campaign promises - Trumps is a "so what" guy - he is a rich New Yorker, the rudest city in America.

Related:

https://www.alipac.us/f9/democrats-s...eeting-344969/

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Originally Posted by artist

Kelly is working for the ryan bunch and Trump allows it. Think Trump was aware of "conditions" to attaining his presidency. As far as not fulfilling campaign promises - Trumps is a "so what" guy - he is a rich New Yorker, the rudest city in America.

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Overall I do believe he wants to keep his promises because he cares very much what people think about him. It's no secret that he is a narcissist. Listening to his interviews and rallies is proof of that. Honestly, I have no problem with his ego and bragging as long as he keeps his eye on the ball. That also means doing everything he can to keep his promises. Some of those promises aren't completely under his control, but some, like DACA for example, are. Someone, some group, or both, obviously influenced him to back down on his DACA promise. Somehow he was convinced that keeping that promise would not be in his best interest.

Unfortunately, I think Trump's self-admiration is what makes him a little more susceptible to influence and pressure than what we would like. In other words, should he get the feeling he's losing support, I think he can be easily influenced to change course.

With all of that being said, it is my sense that we must keep enough pressure on him to prevent our enemies from winning his ear. Just my opinion ......

IMO - Part of the daca continuance could be to hold down hostility while the criminals are being routed out first & other procedures put in place. Kelly's words, are troubling though "no problems for dacas as long as I'm in this post" "the least of his problems" probably so, their info is listed as long as they don't go underground.

On Trump's daca campaign promises, groups such as Alipac & others must communicate the need for answers, what the future holds & the message being sent to illegals. Bear in mind, some plans are best paced out w/o fanfare, (I hope that is part of this admins plan), otherwise these pro illegals groups just go crazy, non stop & have more time to prepare their assaults.

But comments on his broken campaign promises must be in his face and in the press, pushing for a statement as to why he is not fulfilling that promise will alert him to public outcry other than the constant chatter from pro illegal groups. Ongoing communications are needed to be able to confront the administration though & expect answers from it; same with environmental groups that have a load of grievances (they are better off leaving a door open to communicate their positions). Cut communications and you can't have an input other than law suits or any media coverage you can get.

It does send the wrong message of not to worry to the other illegals, (but e-verify will get them) especially those with anchor babies which is all of them. If their citizen status is not eliminated they will one day have the right to bring their entire family. So just about all deported or leaving due to e-verify mandate WILL BE BACK LEGALLY thru their anchor babies.

If the mandate for e-verify becomes a reality, many millions will be forced to self deport for now. Also there are many criminals that just have not been caught or on record with law enforcement but they will get caught up in an e-verify mandate. Talk of the social services cuts unless legally in the country will have an impact too. But once again the anchor babies right now have a right to social services but can't see them staying if the parents have to return to their country but can come back with them later. Citizenship status will entitle them to return.

To me, the best road for all of us is to be strong, patient and clear.

Last first, we must be clear that we will not tolerate any legalization of any illegal aliens, DACA, or otherwise and we must insist that on the earliest most prudent date, the DACA program is quietly ended.

We must be patient as well, because the factions and forces working against US and our dear President Trump include the Court System, even though the Court System was designed and funded to protect the national law, national constitution and national interests of US citizens, we know the Court System has largely failed our citizens on many issues across numerous fronts through the many years of our history, especially in the area of migration, importation of labor and slavery. Thus, we do not want to tangle with that outfit which today is comprised largely of loons. There's an ole saying, "it's best to leave stupid to deal with itself." (Well, actually, that's mine, but it fits the situation.)

Finally, we must be strong, stand up, speak out, but do it from a position of strength, not weakness. We do not want to give the impression that we are victims of uncertainty or potentially broken promises, because we are not. We are the happy and proud victors of an election the outcome of which will end illegal immigration into the United States once and for all.

Rome wasn't built in a day and it still takes 4 quarters to win a Super Bowl, sometimes with an over-time. We've just barely passed the coin toss to start the first quarter.

In formally notifying re the withdrawal of backing by his voters for the DELAY in not removing daca immediately as promised, interject all the other things that could be DONE or AT LEAST initiated NOW that are integral to restoring/enhancing our laws re immigration that would protect our safety, health, jobs too; for one, anchor babies status requiring a citizen parent, no federal freebies for illegals, e-verify etc. A Turkish judge in this country on business, stated the refugees they are accommodating in Turkey, do not receive schooling for the children. (Harsh but they obviously do not want them hanging around.)

There are many issues in this immigration problem that we American citizens need his ear & HEART for; keep communication lines with the President open. Put a little shame in his heart and he just might work harder of some of the other issues & get to daca later on. The central american influx has to stop and they need to be returned to their countries. They will breed as the mexicans have done for the anchor babies and they are so inbred/violent; it is an abomination to have them placed everywhere @ us. Get them out NOW!

An article in the National Review 3/10, which I won't post because the nameless "editors" are promoting a trade off of permanent residency for dacas - totally unacceptable and asinine. A short DELAY could possibly be tolerable IF other things are accomplished ASAP.

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Republicans should offer legislation granting legal permanent residency to DACA-eligible aliens in exchange for congressional approval of the RAISE Act and nationwide E-Verify.

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The article also states the daca number is 2million.

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President Obama’s DACA, issued in 2012 via memorandum, was a patently lawless use of executive power. After Congress (again) decided not to pass the DREAM Act, granting legal status to illegal immigrants who came here as children, the president abused his “pen and phone” to impose the law’s provisions unilaterally. The administration risibly claimed that this was an exercise of “prosecutorial discretion,” implying that the government would be evaluating applications for deferred status on a case-by-case basis. Unsurprisingly, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officials have reported otherwise; in fact, anyone who appears to be under the maximum deferral age — that is, any illegal immigrant who appears younger than 35 years old — is simply presumed to be eligible for DACA. Under the policy, about 750,000 illegal aliens have been granted not only renewable, two-year deportation stays, but also work permits, Social Security numbers, access to the EITC welfare program, and driver’s licenses. Functionally, more than 2 million have been shielded from deportation for nearly five years.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...raise-e-verify

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Originally Posted by MW

Kelly definitely gives the impression he is the reason DACA still stands.



Maybe he made keeping DACA a condition of accepting Trump's nomination (just speculation).

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You might be right MW, I think this question needs to be asked and answered by the Administration.

I oppose DACA on any level for any reason. This has to be ended and all of them deported. Period. Illegal immigration no matter the age, the sob story, who brought them, when or under what circumstance has nothing to do with deportation. It's just part of the sometimes sad consequences of illegal immigration, just like children of any lawbreaker who pay the price for what their parents have done. When someone is incarcerated they can't provide for their family. Their children suffer. No one cares about that. All these Americans in jail for non-violent drug offenses, using dope or selling it, their families suffer, no one cares about them. They lose their homes, have to go on welfare, live in terrible neighborhoods, are afraid and poor, and miss their parent. No difference. No one is writing sob stories for them.

So stop with the concern about the children of illegal aliens "brought here by their parents". It's not a valid argument, it's not a sound defense, it's as irrelevant as what happens to the families of all lawbreakers. If your family was a defense, there would never be a law enforced. All criminals have family somewhere.

And all the criminals and their families who have broken US immigration law must be deported, no matter the age or their circumstance, whether they're "good", "incredible" or "bad ones" and rotten to the core. Lady Justice is blind for a reason.