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    indigenous illegals come here bitter

    YOu know what, I was in a hispanic forum reading some of the posts and one guy was talking about the unfairness among mainly mexican people. YOu would all be very happy to hear that all of the south americans in the forum were all against illegal immigration tas well as confronting lies about mass amounts of south american migration to the U.S.A. The south american immigrants expressed and agreed with the americans. Their reasoning was not only for national security but also the fact they know that illegal aliens are causing the country to go broke. The south american students were basically making the head moderator look like a moron. south american families agree with most americans that the reason the children of illegals are not doing well in school is because the parents are not learning themselves. That and they dont allow the kids to speak english at home. I explained to an activist in the forum that if he really wanted to help the indigenous, oppressed illegal/legal non english speaking illiterate latinos in the country, he should start by encouraging latinos to integrate and not seperate themselves from other americans. Another thing the activist groups could do(if they really want them to succeed which I dont think they do. I Think they cater to them and tell them it is not neccessary for them to learn english in an effort to keep them uneducated and to be nothing more than exploited cheap slave labor for Uncle SAm.) Let's just say, I got the race card played against me. Another thing they could do(besides coming up with their usual frivalous lawsuits based on claims of racism), is offer them free english tapes or let them know where to purchase with them. A lot of the poor uneducated latinos(especially rural mexican nationals) speak decent english enough to get by if they had to but if they can they usually rely on someone else to interpret for them. The reason they do this is because the activist groups make them think that we will make fun of them or if they dont say the sentence completely right, that we will embarrass them. NOw, correct me if I am wrong but my beloved americans have never done this to me. NEVER!!! When I was three years old I practiced my english on the old lady next door. I would get embarrassed but she would tell me,. "hunny, at least your trying". That is all that matters. I just cant believe that the latinos who act so macho and tough as well as violent are afraid of speaking english for those reasons. My father gained more and more respect in the workplace because of how fast he learned english. If anything, the anglo americans had more respect for us considering where we came from and the fact that we respected them. We have never and I repeat never done things like speaking in spanish to each other in front of those who dont speak it. IT seems that now people are getting hired for being bilingual. For this reason, I check off other under race. I dont disclose my lineage until I make my mark with a company. I usually wait 6 months. I dont want to be looked at as a hispanic girl who did a good job . I dont want anyone to feel they are different than I am and I dont want to feel different or be treated different. I have never used my spanish skills in the work place. I had a boss once tell me that if I did not speak spanish to clients, I would be fired. I turned around and looked at the scrawny little bastard and told him"you cannot force me to speak spanish, the language in this country is english. I said, you do know I can sue you if you fire me for that. He did not know what to say.

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    Sonali, you are not only an example for other Hispanics, you are an example of reason for us all. Well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow
    Sonali, you are not only an example for other Hispanics, you are an example of reason for us all. Well done.
    I will gladly 2nd that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow
    Sonali, you are not only an example for other Hispanics, you are an example of reason for us all. Well done.
    I agree. There is nothing wrong with LEGAL immigration. Many who have come here legally have made great contributions to this nation. Also, frankly with the abortion laws, we are facing the same thing that Italy is going through, zero population growth. I know that sounds funny with the ILLEGALS having so many babies, but we do need LEGAL immigrants.
    This is a great nation. Thanks Sonali. OUTSTANDING post!!!! Keep up the good work.

    P.S. They are trying to get us to learn spanish at the hospital. They are offering "Spanish for Health Care Professionals". That would be cool for nurses, doctors, x-ray techs, etc. I am a Surgical Tech. All of my patients, White, Black, Hispanic, and Asian are SLEEP when I see them. Even win I visit with them the night before the procedure they suddenly speak english. When I go to tell them the outcome after the procedure they either speak english or have someone there to tell them what I am saying. However, I am going to take the course. It's free and I can use it to see what they are saying about me.
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    thank you

    I will be back, got to make a donation. it wont be much but it feels so good that I can be a part of something like this. I am so tired of Teddy Kennedy. He is all about welfare and overloading the country with poor people. YOu know when I come back I will give you think link to the forum where I made many posts and you will see many south americans are getting upset. As it is, thanks to la raza , as well as the non-english speaking illegals from the most rural areas teach their kids to hate. Instilling paranoia in them about anglos. I honestly I dont feel different than any of you. most people are surprised when they meet south americans when they talk to us and the fact that we understand their humor. We also have a good sense of humor. YOu know my father was truly right. I kind of miss english time. Everynight at 7pm, me my mom and my dad would all be in front of the t.v. watching an english tape. I would take notes because my dad had dislexia and we would quiz each other. My parents would bring food to neighbors and practice their english. I think it only took like 6 months for me to learn. I was 3 years old and I spent a lot of time watching american tx(fell in love with the dukes of hazard) If you could picture a red headed tan 3 year old chilean girl immitating roscoe. That was some of my first english along with I Dream Of Genie. IN chile, usually the movies are in english with subtitles. I was going to go this october but I really feel like I have to go down there and stand with the minuteman project . I saw another story of a beautiful american girl who was strangled by her baby's father and of course he kidnapped the baby and fled to mexico. That same thing happened to my cousin. My cousin jemina married a mexican and one thing they hate and never expect is for a woman to get fed up and leave. She was beautiful-like a model and she was just very sweet. She got tired of having her ass whipped. There were two mexican families as our neighbors(like mexican national mexicans, very primative) who did not like our family.(most mexicans consider chileans stuck up) Both of the wives were sitting outside according to the neighbor across the street.They heard the screaming. They watched him break down the door, watched her chase her around outside with the knife. He moved the baby outside on the porch. He slit her throat after beating her brutally. He came outside where the baby wondered off to one one of the mexicans next door. Blood all over his shirt and arms. She tried to crawl outside. She made it to the doorway and she died. My uncle hernado found her. ONe of the mexican women came over looked at her and asked my uncle, "is she going to be allright"? HE looked at her and said, "no you stupid retarded bitch." All the woman told my uncle was that she heard yelling. She did not tell him about the blood caked shirt. She said she thought is he was coming by to pick up the baby. Well, my uncle wanted to hit her. She did not call the police because she was an illegal alien. Well,luckily the guy across the street was on vacation and had seen him chasing her around the yard.. The police arrived shortly. The guy said she was begging both neighbors to call the police for her when he was chasing her. They told her "no, we dont want to get involved"s. She was beaten beyond recognition. We were trying to figure out what happened to the baby. WE went to his mother's house and she had no remorse at all. She ended up being caught in a lie when the police found the blood stained shirt in the washer. She still claimed he had not been there. WE asked where the baby was. She said, she did not know. She said that he told her that he my cousin and the baby were all going on vacation to mexico. Well, the mother in law was extremely primative . Due to the fact that we speak very proper intellectual spanish, she thought that we were putting her down. She would try to argue with our spanish(spanish from spain) which to me is like arguing with an englishman telling him he is not speaking english right. She did not like the fact that my cousin insisted on finishing her last year at law school. She, like myself was very primative. Her parents were crying to this woman to tell them where the baby was. most of the time when they would go over there, she would not answer the door. The baby had been left with my cousins sister in law. The only way my uncle was able to get her back when he snuck up on the womans property and listened at the window and heard a baby crying. My uncle crawled on all fours along side the house and called the police. They made her open the door. She was arrested for assisting in kidnap and witholding evidence of foul play. They had phone records of my sisters husband calling his mother through matamoros. Unfortunately, there has never been justice. The old bitch was able to get deported . YOu know how the mexican government is. I am sure he has been back here. IF the mother is caught over here she will go to a federal prison. Her residency status has been taken away and she has been order to stay in mexico permanently. I can't imagine the horror she felt. Oh, as for the two neighbors, not only was the ins called, the found weaponsin their house like weapons that civilians are not supposed to and they also were discovered with fake documents. They are also never allowed to return. They showed complete lack of remorse and due to her selfishness, and lack of concern...the judge said she was inhuman . When asked about the anomosity between them she actually told the judge, "OH, I was told by my husband not to talk to them because they think they are better than we are . Also, the primative latinos seem to think that if you are latin, then you should just be willing to do favors or services for free or less charge.

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    lety them be idiots

    Quote Originally Posted by Sixx
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow
    Sonali, you are not only an example for other Hispanics, you are an example of reason for us all. Well done.
    I agree. There is nothing wrong with LEGAL immigration. Many who have come here legally have made great contributions to this nation. Also, frankly with the abortion laws, we are facing the same thing that Italy is going through, zero population growth. I know that sounds funny with the ILLEGALS having so many babies, but we do need LEGAL immigrants.
    This is a great nation. Thanks Sonali. OUTSTANDING post!!!! Keep up the good work.

    P.S. They are trying to get us to learn spanish at the hospital. They are offering "Spanish for Health Care Professionals". That would be cool for nurses, doctors, x-ray techs, etc. I am a Surgical Tech. All of my patients, White, Black, Hispanic, and Asian are SLEEP when I see them. Even win I visit with them the night before the procedure they suddenly speak english. When I go to tell them the outcome after the procedure they either speak english or have someone there to tell them what I am saying. However, I am going to take the course. It's free and I can use it to see what they are saying about me.

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    CHECK IT OUT

    In a way, it is kind of fun. I honestly try to avoid talking to them. The cool thing about learning the language is that if someone is talking behind your back you will hear it. My dad used to encourage me to take advantage of the fact that they choose to be stupid. When I managed a dominos, if they started acting stupid on the phone or playing stupid, I would start saying no entiendo. (dont understand). What I couldnt stand was when they put the 5 year old kid on the phone to take the order. That is really sad when a 5 year old ends up being smarter than the parents. It really is sad because the parent is telling the kid what to say and they will be talking when the kid is trying to make the order and the poor kid ends up getting stressed out and they wonder why their kids drop out. They figure my parents arent learning english. They can get work being bilingual even if they are not experienced .

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    Sonali--thanks so much for sharing this insight about the South Americans. I believe to the south, it is primarily Mexico. In any event, we hope that all legal immigrants learn our language and adopt our culture. That does not mean that anyone has to give up a love for their original homeland whether it is Chile or Ireland. Our personal history is interesting and part of us. Over time, being an American is so great that the old country becomes that...old...but that does not mean any of us should forget our family history or our roots. But when you become an American...your roots are still there but have been replanted in a new pot.

    I am not opposed to legal immigration...except to say that we do not need any more presently for several years because of the abuses to the system, there has been more than our country needed and only time will cure this.

    That's why I'm for a Moratorium on Immigration across the board with perhaps some exceptions for matters in process...so that we can step back and assess just what is going on; who really needs to come here; what will they do once they are here; will someone else lose a job because they are here or lose an opportunity...all things things need to be considered now that we realize that the:

    Beanheads in our Government Weren't Considering ANYTHING....just one call from a contributor.....wants some more immigrants....BOOM....DONE.

    And that was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG....through no fault of the immigrants that took advantage of the opportunity, but the silly immoral weakminded, yella-bellied traitorous Politicains....like Ms. Milkulski Senator).

    Anyway, Sonali, we're thrilled to have you part of our forum and hopefully part of our organization!!

    I truly hope that other Latinos, Hispanics, Mexicans and Chicanos will understand that our efforts are as much to the benefit of legal immigrants as American Citizens; will break rank with these Down With America Organizations and join our cause.
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    any thoughts about the legions of "dual nationals" within the "Latino" community? good, bad or indifferent?
    conservative is but a liberal after a dose of reality...

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    Ditto to Sonali. I have to say this fast, and I don't know how eloquent it will sound, but I hope I can express my point. Today I couldn't work on this, but I used the time spent at a birthday party to enlighten quite a few parents. They were extremely interested in this subject of illegal immigrants, and the politicians in D.C. (They all went off on a big Bush bashing binge, and nobody except me would admit they voted for him!! We all concluded, people don't want to admit it anymore).

    Anyway, when we got home I was thinking about illegal aliens a lot. I wanted to tell all 20 million, that the American people don't hate you. We hate the corrupt Mexican government for pushing you out of your own country to illegally enter another country, break down our laws, our culture, and ultimately create corruption in our country, and needless to say the breakdown in our schools, etc.etc.. But I wanted to tell them that the American people are NOT your enemies, Vicente Fox, is your enemy because he is a traitor to the Mexican people using your hardship, and encouraging, and perhaps forcing you to send back billions of dollars to him. Your other great enemy is George W. Bush for also exploiting your
    desperate situation under the false cover of compassion and goodness when the real reason is to USE you for cheap labor. These two men our your greatest enemies. NOT the American people. Neither of them have proven themselves to be worthy of their positions, because they are both willing to impinge upon the people of both countries in their unwillingness to do what is right.

    In fact, Americans would like nothing more than to see Mexico, our neighbor be a good, strong, stable, law abiding, country which upholds human rights. But right now, you are a people with no country at all.
    Just as you see us fighting the wrongness occuring in America being brought upon the American people, this is the same fight you must put upon your leaders. If you run from this, your country will never stand a chance. NEVER. There is a bumper sticker we have which says, "These Colors Don't Run", and that is ever so true. THIS IS WHY AMERICA is what she is. Americans have always had to fight for this kind of freedom. It was those who came before us who were brave and determined enough NOT TO RUN, who have enabled me to sit here and write this freely to you. Illegal Aliens should return to their countries of origin, and fight for their rights. There is nothing more important in your life. In America, we say, GOD, COUNTRY, FAMILY - in that order. Because we know without the first two, our families will be in grave danger. I would like for illegal aliens to know, that we would embrace and help them in their struggle to build a strong and proud country. WE ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS. You must try to understand our responsibility to see that our laws are enforced and that the will of the people is upheld. If those Americans who came before us had not done that, your neighbor, the United States of America could be a country that could be a horrifying place, a frightening neighbor.

    If illegal aliens were to understand this they should know that the American people would INSIST that our country do all that we can to help you build your country the way you would like it to be. And I trust what you would like is for it to be similar to ours in the sense of freedom and opportunity. Our country is at an all time low right now, and we have SO MUCH work to do. But we will do it. Perhaps it is our "determination, and our loyalty to our nation" that would be the best thing you could bring back to Mexico. Often times rich leaders, such as Bush and Fox believe that it is only money that makes the world go around. It becomes all that they can see, in spite of their poetic speeches to us. They are wrong. Yes, money is powerful, and it can do great things, or it can do devastating things. Bush and Fox have chosen a path which is self serving and not in the interest of the Mexican or the American people.


    Don't look to your leaders for the answers, because sometimes our leaders can be terribly flawed. Look to yourselves. Your destiny on this earth lies in your hands. If you choose to reclaim your nation, the American people will respect you and stand by you. And we humbly ask that you stand by us, as at this time, we are essentially on the same journey. George Bush says that we need you for the hot, sweaty jobs Americans won't do. Trust us, neighbor, we need you for something far more important than that.
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