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    Melting Pot

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    You'll have to read about 2 pages down until you see this really is about the Minutemen.

    I think some of the things about our immigration laws is interesting. Like the part that we don't let in "legals" for construction work. Hmmm, maybe somebody who wrote the law would like to save some work for our own citizens.

    I'm one of those who don't belive the salad bowl we've made of our nation is working very well. How do we get the melting pot metaphor back as the prefered integration. Do we have to bring up the problems all the European nations are having with Muslim immigrants or England/Irish, or Spanish/Basque. Where do legal immigrants stand on the salad bowl, melting pot linguistics?

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    The afternoons in Guanajuato are mild and warm, cool in the mountain mornings and cool in the rainy evenings. At dawn the campañas ring and the men carrying heavy rusted propane canisters shout “Gas! Gas!� for any family needing a replacement. For a few months I worked at La Pieza, a bar the size of a closet, off of Cantarranas street. Claudia, the owner, paid me about fifteen pesos an hour. In a morning, that came out to about eight dollars minus tips.

    It was barely enough to stay afloat, so I needed another job. I took on extra work teaching English at one of the language institutes up the road, by the Presa de la Olla, with its tranquil garden and splashing waters. There, I earned about thirty pesos an hour, which converts to about three dollars per class. At two classes, I was earning about six dollars a dayâ€â€

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    Muy triste! Now what are we supposed to do, slit our wrists and bleed on our rugs that Mexico has been in existence, by their own account, hundreds of years longer than the US and it's citizens still do not have any piece of the pie? We're supposed to pound our chests and bewail their fate...and...FIX IT?? When did the economy of Mexico and the welfare of its citizens become the responsibility of the US??

    Grrrr...what an article.....what off-the-wall accusations about the US and our attitudes. Why in the ding dong can they NEVER put the responsibility where it BELONGS?? Do you ever hear them railing against their OWN government?? Snarrrrrllll...

    Whew...I sure feel better now...

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    Nice...he thinks the MinuteMen should be thrown in prisions because some of them believe that the culture that this nation's success is predicated upon is under assualt from a culture that has bred social failure for generations.

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    laughable meme

    I wonder what Sam Houston would say to that? g

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    " He is currently in law school at the University of Wisconsin at Madison."


    It HAD to be another lawyer, didn't it?? I suggest we deport the lawyers and keep the Mexicans, they're much less threat!

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    Multi-culturalism is a load of what comes from the south end of a northbound bull. That was one of the biggest things that got myself and Bill Clinton off on the wrong foot. The theme of his first inauguration being "Celebrating our Diversity".

    I agree with the idea that immigration from a wide variety of cultures is part of what made the U.S. great. That is, so long as we operated along the lines of the Melting Pot metaphor. We take that which is good and useful from those cultures who come among us, and discard that which is not so good, combining the best qualities of all those cultures.

    However, we no longer do that. We now celebrate our cultural diversity, with everyone trying to preserve their ancestors culture. Speaking for myself, I have no interest in preserving my ancestors culture overly much. The Scottish peoples contributed a great deal to our civilization. However, life in that culture was not all roses, or people would never have left there to come to America. It is because that culture was not all THAT great, that we did not seek to perpetuate a carbon copy of it here. Same applies to all the cultures our ancestors came from.

    You do not unite people by placing emphasis on their differences... you unite people by emphasizing the things they have in common.

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    Cultural diversity is nice but unity makes us strong. Everyone here needs to write an email to all three of their elected politicos and the President. The message must demand rather than urge or ask. These guys work for us and are obligated to carry out the will of the people. If 90% favor deportation of illegal aliens, I'd call that a mandate and worthy of impeachment for noncompliance. Certainly more demand a sealed border than demand deportation. Both are necessary for a secure nation. And we must stop this dual citizenship nonsense. That only works for Vicente.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom2
    Cultural diversity is nice but unity makes us strong. Everyone here needs to write an email to all three of their elected politicos and the President. The message must demand rather than urge or ask. These guys work for us and are obligated to carry out the will of the people. If 90% favor deportation of illegal aliens, I'd call that a mandate and worthy of impeachment for noncompliance. Certainly more demand a sealed border than demand deportation. Both are necessary for a secure nation. And we must stop this dual citizenship nonsense. That only works for Vicente.
    Well said, Tom2. You draft the letter since you express yourself so well, and we'll sign it.
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    Unfortunetly Multi-Culturism has also now been applied to politics. I consider myself mostly a liberal which is a bad word in many places, even here sometimes .

    I wish we weren't so polarized and could find more issues where our politics can "melt" into a common goal. I think illegal immigration and our border security is such a place but care has to be taken to appeal to both sides. However both sides hang onto their "history" and it's difficult to get us all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustAnotherSavage
    " He is currently in law school at the University of Wisconsin at Madison."


    It HAD to be another lawyer, didn't it?? I suggest we deport the lawyers and keep the Mexicans, they're much less threat!
    How about deporting the lawyers with a Mexican under each arm?
    Yeah,I know. It's an old joke.

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