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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard
    Quote Originally Posted by LawEnforcer
    The House bill gives amnesty to illegals 35 and under. The Senate bill gives amnesty to those 30 and under. Because the House bill is different than the Senate bill, the Senate has to pass it "as is" without amendements. If not, then the Senate and the house have to reconcile them, taking more time in the lame duck session. And since time is what they don't have, they want to pass it as is in the Senate and send it to the Pres. without reconciliation.

    That strategy will encourage more senators to vote NO. Since it bypasses many processes.
    Wasn't an objection to that motion instantly given?
    Yes
    So its dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard
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    The House bill gives amnesty to illegals 35 and under. The Senate bill gives amnesty to those 30 and under. Because the House bill is different than the Senate bill, the Senate has to pass it "as is" without amendements. If not, then the Senate and the house have to reconcile them, taking more time in the lame duck session. And since time is what they don't have, they want to pass it as is in the Senate and send it to the Pres. without reconciliation.

    That strategy will encourage more senators to vote NO. Since it bypasses many processes.
    Wasn't an objection to that motion instantly given?
    Motion denied.

    MicEvHill: Today's Senate #DREAMAct cloture vote, if it still occurs, is on the Senate bill."
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    That means that IF it passes, it still has to be reconcilied in the House and the Senate can still amend it with poison pills.

    Reconciliation still needs 60 votes to pass.

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    Fox opened right now with the dream act coverage

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    It sounds like debate may be starting shortly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justthefacts
    Fox opened right now with the dream act coverage
    Stating the Dems don't have the votes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard
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    Fox opened right now with the dream act coverage
    Stating the Dems don't have the votes!
    did they say how many they do have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawEnforcer
    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard
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    Fox opened right now with the dream act coverage
    Stating the Dems don't have the votes!
    did they say how many they do have?
    I think we only need 41

    There are 42 repubs that stated they would block everything

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