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10-04-2014, 02:56 AM #11
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Ron Paul: Secession Movement to Hit U.S.
Tuesday, 30 Sep 2014 02:03 PM
By Melanie Batley
Paul told the National Journal that he believes secessionist groups will also see their popularity rise disenchantment with Washington increases.
"It's something that I think is going to grow, because the failure of the federal government is going to get much worse," Paul said. "When the bankruptcy evolves, and maybe some of these pension funds are confiscated, and the wars never end, and bankruptcy comes forth, people [will say], 'Hey, we're getting a bad deal from this. Why don't we leave?'"
He added: "I think it's inevitable people wanting to leave will be there, and the numbers will grow."
A number of state secession movements already exist including the Second Vermont Republican, the Alaskan Independence Party, and the Texas Nationalist Movement, but Paul said there is little chance any efforts will succeed.
"I think what is most important is we have a concrete right to secede," Paul said, arguing that secession is valuable even if only in principle.
"Even if we never had any secession, or any state declare independence, we would be so much better off, because there would always be this threat. Once the threat of a state leaving was removed, it was just open-door policy for the federal government to expand itself and run roughshod out over the states because the states couldn't do much."
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10-04-2014, 01:49 PM #12
Fox News Poll: Voters reveal which state they want kicked out of the union
By Dana Blanton
Published October 02, 2014FoxNews.com
There’s lots of talk about it. Last month, Scotland voted against it. In 2013, some residents in California, Colorado and Maryland signed petitions to do it. And Texas has toyed with the idea off and on for years. What is “it”?
Secession!
But it’s a lot more talk than anything else, according to a Fox News national poll that asked voters if they would support their state splitting off from the United States. Just nine percent said they would.
CLICK HERE TO READ THE POLL RESULTS
The poll also gave people another option: What if you could boot other states out of the union?
Nearly twice as many -- 17 percent -- liked that idea.
Which state would be the first voted out? California. Of the voters willing to ditch a state or two, 53 percent pick the Golden State.
Next out the door is New York (25 percent), followed by Texas (20 percent) and Florida (11 percent). Respondents were allowed to name multiple states they wanted out of the union.
Democratic pollster Chris Anderson says voters who want to kick out a state appear to have presidential politics in mind.
“The top four states targeted for expulsion,” he observed, “are also the four most electorally rich states in the country.” Anderson conducts the Fox News poll with Republican pollster Daron Shaw, who for his part approvingly noted the first two states on the chopping block are solid blue.
One reason more Democratic states end up on the chopping block is Republicans (21 percent) are more likely than Democrats (13 percent) to want to vote a state out of the union.
In addition, Republicans (12 percent) and independents (13 percent) are three times as likely as Democrats (4 percent) to want their state to secede. Nearly one in four voters who are part of the Tea Party movement would vote for their state to split off (23 percent).
The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with 1,049 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from September 28-30, 2014. The full poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/02/fox-news-poll-voters-reveal-which-state-want-kicked-out-union/?intcmp=obinsite
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10-04-2014, 10:05 PM #13
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POLL: Voters Reveal Which States They Want Kicked Out of The Union
Posted by Matt Duncan aka MD / October 2, 2014
Jan. 6, 2006: The U.S. Capitol Building is seen from a U.S. military helicopter in Washington. (Reuters)
There’s lots of talk about it. Last month, Scotland voted against it. In 2013, some residents in California, Colorado and Maryland signed petitions to do it. And Texas has toyed with the idea off and on for years. What is “it”?
Secession!
But it’s a lot more talk than anything else, according to a Fox News national poll that asked voters if they would support their state splitting off from the United States. Just nine percent said they would.
Scibed poll document at the page link:
The poll also gave people another option: What if you could boot other states out of the union?
Nearly twice as many — 17 percent — liked that idea.
Which state would be the first voted out? California. Of the voters willing to ditch a state or two, 53 percent pick the Golden State.
Next out the door is New York (25 percent), followed by Texas (20 percent) and Florida (11 percent). Respondents were allowed to name multiple states they wanted out of the union.
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