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    Dyker man on YouTube ignites GOP fisticuffs over immigration

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    http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/30 ... nardi.html

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    By Noah C. Zuss
    for The Brooklyn Paper

    A Dyker Heights man not only incited a debate about illegal immigration at last week’s Republican debate, but he also thrust himself and his neighborhood into an international spotlight.

    But that’s Ernie Nardi for you.

    The 59-year-old Dyker resident proved that he’s not afraid to take an unpopular position on a controversial issue when his pre-recorded question kicked off last week’s Republican debate on CNN.

    Nardi is a technician for the Madison Square Garden Network who has lived in Brooklyn his entire life. He feels that illegal immigration is changing the face of the city and believes that those here illegally are displacing legal citizens and contributing to our decline. He is angry that New York has become a safe-haven, and destination for illegal immigrants.

    And get this: He’s a registered Democrat.

    The question that began the debate featured Nardi in a YouTube video, his white-haired head covering 70 percent of the screen and a TV with rabbit ears in the background, criticizing former Mayor Giuliani for running a “sanctuary cityâ€
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    Comments are being left so I thanked Ernie for being a great American since he is getting some hate mail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPatriot
    Comments are being left so I thanked Ernie for being a great American since he is getting some hate mail.
    Good to know.

    Here's the relevant part of that exchange:

    Cooper: All right, enough of the singing, enough of the snowmen. Let's begin the debate.

    From one tough-talking New Yorker, a question to another tough- talking New Yorker.

    Ernie Nardi: This is Ernie Nardi from Dyker Heights in Brooklyn, New York, with a question for the ex-Mayor Giuliani.

    Under your administration, as well as others, New York City was operated as a sanctuary city, aiding and abetting illegal aliens.

    I would like to know, if you become president of the United States, will you continue to aid and abet the flight of illegal aliens into this country?

    Cooper: Mayor Giuliani?

    Giuliani: Ernie, that was a very good question. And the reality is that New York City was not a sanctuary city. (OFF-MIKE) single illegal immigrant that New York City could find that either committed a crime or was suspected of a crime. That was in the executive order originally done by Ed Koch, continued by David Dinkins and then done by me.

    The reason for the confusion is, there were three areas in which New York City made an exception. New York City allowed the children of illegal immigrants to go to school. If we didn't allow the children of illegal immigrants to go to school, we would have had 70,000 children on the streets at a time in which New York City was going through a massive crime wave, averaging 2,000 murders a year, 10,000 felonies a week.

    The other two exceptions related to care -- emergency care in the hospital and being able to report crimes. If we didn't allow illegals to report crimes, a lot of criminals would have gone free because they're the ones who had the information.

    But, most important point is, we reported thousands and thousands and thousands of names of illegal immigrants who committed crimes to the immigration service. They did not deport them. And what we did, the policies that we had, were necessary because the federal policies weren't working.

    The federal policies weren't working, stopping people coming into the United States. If I were president of the United States, I could do something about that by deploying a fence, by deploying a virtual fence, by having a BorderStat system like my COMSTAT system that brought down crime in New York, and just stopping people from coming in, and then having a tamper-proof ID card.

    Cooper: Time.

    Governor Romney, was New York a sanctuary city?

    Romney: Absolutely. It called itself a sanctuary city. And as a matter of fact, when the welfare reform act that President Clinton brought forward said that they were going to end the sanctuary policy of New York City, the mayor actually brought a suit to maintain its sanctuary city status.

    And the idea that they reported any illegal alien that committed a crime -- how about the fact that the people who are here illegally have violated the law? They didn't report everybody they found that was here illegally.

    And this happens to be a difference between Mayor Giuliani and myself and probably others on this stage as well, which is we're going to have to recognize in this country that we welcome people here legally.

    But the mayor said -- and I quote almost verbatim -- which is if you happen to be in this country in an undocumented status -- and that means you're here illegally -- then we welcome you here. We want you here. We'll protect you here.

    That's the wrong attitude. Instead, we should say if you're here illegally, you should not be here. We're not going to give you benefits, other than those required by the law, like health care and education, and that's the course we're going to have to pursue.

    Cooper: Mayor Giuliani?

    Giuliani: It's unfortunate, but Mitt generally criticizes people in a situation in which he's had far the -- worst record.

    For example, in his case, there were six sanctuary cities. He did nothing about them.

    There was even a sanctuary mansion. At his own home, illegal immigrants were being employed, not being turned into anybody or by anyone. And then when he deputized the police, he did it two weeks before he was going to leave office, and they never even seemed to catch the illegal immigrants that were working at his mansion. So I would say he had sanctuary mansion, not just sanctuary city.

    Cooper: All right. I have to allow Governor Romney to respond...
    Anyone who has the actual video clip can repost here.
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