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    RECORD FLOOD AT BORDER

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    After years of Trump's dire warnings, a 'crisis' has hit border but generates little urgency

    Nick Miroff and David Nakamura, The Washington Post
    Published 12:29 pm CST, Saturday, January 5, 2019

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    In 2015, the year President Donald Trump launched his White House bid with a promise to build a wall on the Mexico border, illegal migration to the United States plunged 31 percent, falling near its lowest level in 50 years.
    Security experts saw a success, but Trump looked at the border and saw something ominous: "rapists," "criminals" and other predators lurking on the other side.
    In 2017, Trump's first year in office, he continued to insist on the urgent need for a border wall, even as illegal crossings dropped further.
    With parts of the federal government shut down over what has morphed into the defining symbol of Trump's presidency, administration officials are clamoring louder than ever. Only this time, they face a bona fide emergency on the border, and they're struggling to make the case there's truly a problem.

    Record numbers of migrant families are streaming into the United States, overwhelming border agents and leaving holding cells dangerously overcrowded with children, many of whom are falling sick. Two Guatemalan children taken into U.S. custody died in December.
    In a letter to lawmakers Friday, the White House and the Department of Homeland Security made a fresh appeal to amend immigration laws they denounce as "legal loopholes" and blame for creating a "border security and humanitarian crisis." But the chance of reaching consensus for such technical fixes to U.S. immigration statutes is growing more remote, buried by the pitched battle over a structure new House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., calls "immoral."
    With both sides entrenched, there has been little bipartisan urgency to examine the relatively narrow set of legal and administrative changes that could potentially make a difference in slowing illegal migration or improving conditions for families who arrive at the border.
    "There are places that need better fences or better walls; no one denies that," said Anthony Earl Wayne, a U.S. diplomat who served as ambassador to Mexico from 2011 to 2015. "But I don't know how you get to that, while explaining to the public that we need to increase border security while meeting the human needs that are there."
    Instead, the policy debate has been overshadowed by an engineering project imbued with partisan emotion, with Trump fighting for billions of dollars in taxpayer funding and threatening to invoke emergency powers to build a wall without congressional approval. After failing to reach a deal with Democratic leaders, Trump seesawed Friday between characterizing the current border crisis as a "dangerous horrible disaster" and warning that the shutdown could stretch for "months or years."

    Democratic leaders, pressed by liberal groups and immigrant rights activists, have dug in against Trump, accusing the president of pursuing a xenophobic agenda and throwing a "temper tantrum," in the words of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York.
    The risk of a prolonged stalemate is increasing as the wall fight becomes a referendum on the president, leaving little space to negotiate changes to the lesser-known statutes some administration officials see as the key to stanching the border surge.
    "This is the triumph of symbolism over policy solutions," said Tamar Jacoby, a conservative who serves as president of ImmigrationWorks, a federation of small businesses that advocates for immigration reform.
    "To find the balance between a humanitarian approach and an approach that encourages people to come in responsibly is not easy. It has to be handled carefully, thoughtfully and delicately," she said. "But the debate going on is one of cartoon characters jousting when what we need are brain surgeons."
    The impasse marks Washington's latest failure in over nearly three decades of trying to reach consensus on a comprehensive overhaul of a massive immigration system that both political parties agree is largely broken. There are an estimated 10.7 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States, according to a recent estimate from Pew Research Center, and there is no political consensus over their future.
    Trump's most recent predecessors, Republican George W. Bush and Democrat Barack Obama, supported unsuccessful bipartisan legislative efforts.
    Current White House aides acknowledge privately that a wall will not adequately address the record surge of immigrant families at the border - most of whom surrender to authorities in hopes of winning asylum protections.
    Last year, the Trump administration opposed and helped defeat a bipartisan Senate plan that would have provided $25 billion for the wall in exchange for a path to citizenship for up to 1.7 million young undocumented immigrants.
    The president put his support behind a more conservative bill that would have amended "loopholes" in immigration law, allowing the administration to detain families for longer periods and speed up the huge backlog of asylum cases. But that plan, which also included massive cuts to legal immigration programs, was soundly defeated, as Democrats opposed rolling back protections for immigrant families.
    Since then, Trump has attempted to use executive powers to tighten immigration rules, but during the summer he ended his administration's policy of separating migrant children from their parents amid political backlash. Federal courts have blocked other hard-line measures from the administration, prompting Trump to focus on the border wall.
    During a news conference Friday, Trump discussed ways to seize private land for the project, waxed on about the merits of a barrier made of steel instead of concrete, asserted falsely that Mexico would pay for it through a new trade agreement and repeated his warnings of terrorists at the border.
    But he only briefly alluded to the humanitarian crisis, suggesting a wall would be the solution by dissuading women and children from attempting a dangerous journey.
    If they "know they can't get through because we have a great border wall or fence or barrier, they're not going to come up and you're not going to have the problem," Trump said.
    In recent weeks, so many parents with children have been among the 2,000 unauthorized migrants who are being taken into federal custody each day that authorities have resorted to mass releases of families onto the streets of El Paso and other border cities. U.S. agents are bringing dozens of migrants coughing and feverish each day to clinics and hospitals after stays in jam-packed holding cells where children sleep on concrete floors and huddle in plastic sheets for warmth.
    A group of Democratic lawmakers led by the Congressional Hispanic Caucus will travel to New Mexico on Monday to the Border Patrol station where 8-year-old Felipe Alonso Gomez was detained before he died on Christmas Eve with flulike symptoms. But Democrats critical of the administration's treatment of migrant families have offered few solutions to stem the unprecedented influx of parents with children that is buckling the U.S. immigration system.
    The government shutdown has made the strains worse. Many immigration judges have been furloughed, deepening dysfunction in a court system crippled by a backlog of nearly 1 million cases. Along the border, U.S. agents and officers are being forced to work indefinitely without pay. "Morale is down in the dumps," said one border agent in South Texas who was not authorized to speak on the record.
    Yet in Washington, the president has continued to sound the alarm for a border wall, appearing at the White House on Thursday with representatives of the Border Patrol union to make another pitch to reporters.
    Adam Isacson, a security analyst at the Washington Office on Latin America, said there appears to be little political incentive for conservatives to hash out a deal if it doesn't deliver on Trump's signature issue. With Trump eyeing a re-election bid amid increasing pressure from his conservative base, the debate over the wall could dominate Washington for the foreseeable future.
    "They are stuck on this wall thing because of its emotional appeal," he said.

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    Nice article, Airbornesapper07.

    The shutdown was a mistake, a terrible trap, a suicide mission, in my opinion.

    Trump needs to end it now, the second he realizes that he is not negotiating with rational, reasonable people and that he's dealing with DemoQuacks, he'll end it, I hope that realization comes tomorrow, because he might as well walk into a Looney Bin and say, "hey, lets do a deal, and solve a problem" when all they're going to do is fight over who steals his MAGA hat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Nice article, Airbornesapper07.

    The shutdown was a mistake, a terrible trap, a suicide mission, in my opinion.

    Trump needs to end it now, the second he realizes that he is not negotiating with rational, reasonable people and that he's dealing with DemoQuacks, he'll end it, I hope that realization comes tomorrow, because he might as well walk into a Looney Bin and say, "hey, lets do a deal, and solve a problem" when all they're going to do is fight over who steals his MAGA hat.
    Regardless of what you think or say this is a fight Trump couldn't hide from. Well, not if he wanted a legitimate chance at winning reelection in 2020. His base, excluding one, would never have forgiven him for caving on something like this, especially after he had already promised not to.

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    You don't know anything about his "base".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    You don't know anything about his "base".
    Honestly, I can't even fathom where you're coming from on this. You say he's committing suicide by continuing the shutdown when in actuality to raise the white flag and retreat with his tail between his legs would be suicide! He's done enough quitting, giving in and surrendering over the last two year, now it's time to take the fight to the Democrats.

    You have shown yourself to be a huge Trump cheerleader, yet you're willing to see him .... no, correct that, you're eager and willing to push him off the plank. I don't get it because to tuck his tail between his legs and limp out on this so quickly will surely jeopardize his chances for reelection in 2020.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post


    Honestly, I can't even fathom where you're coming from on this. You say he's committing suicide by continuing the shutdown when in actuality to raise the white flag and retreat with his tail between his legs would be suicide! He's done enough quitting, giving in and surrendering over the last two year, now it's time to take the fight to the Democrats.

    You have shown yourself to be a huge Trump cheerleader, yet you're willing to see him .... no, correct that, you're eager and willing to push him off the plank. I don't get it because to tuck his tail between his legs and limp out on this so quickly will surely jeopardize his chances for reelection in 2020.

    He pushed himself off the plank when he allowed this shutdown to continue beyond the Sunday before Christmas. Trump Supporters like me aren't going to hold this against him, and we'll work as hard and as robustly as possible for his re-election as we ever have. But this shutdown is WRONG. It's wrong on every level, in every possible way. It's a suicide mission for our cause, a suicide mission for federal workers and suppliers, and a suicide mission for our national security. A suicide mission in this context is a losing proposition, it's an endeavor going nowhere for nothing that is jeopardizing our national status, security, progress, goodwill, jobs, economy and safety.
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    Department closures

    Nine federal departments will be shuttered as the government shuts down this weekend. They are:

    Department of the Treasury (monitors sanctions against Iran and North Korea)
    Department of Agriculture (protects our food supply)
    Homeland Security Department (secures our borders and ports of entry)
    Department of the Interior (park rangers and land managers who patrol and protect federal lands and parks)
    Department of State (runs diplomatic operations)
    Department of Housing and Urban Development
    Department of Transportation (our roads and airlines, bridges and tunnels)
    Department of Commerce (trade and business security)
    Department of Justice (public safety)

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/21/what...huts-down.html
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    Trump needs to use his "pen and phone".

    Shut the whole border down.

    Executive Order to stop Birthright Citizenship and get it to the Supreme Court once and for all.

    No deal for DACA...we don't want them here.

    Declare National Emergency and get those troops to build the barriers!

    Stop your tweeting and get that pen working to stop this invasion!

    Put Mexico and Central America on the Travel Ban list. They cannot come here until this situation is under control and they are bussed back home!

    They cannot dump their whole country over our border...that is an invasion!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

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    My advice is not to push on birthright citizenship by executive order. I think we'll lose at the US Supreme Court, after which no Congress could ever pass a law to fix it. Need to go very slow and very careful.
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