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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    . . . WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE??!!!
    There is an interesting way to find out. READ THE ARTICLE.

    "Federal investigators and computer scientists continue to examine whether there was a computer server connection between the Trump Organization and a Russian bank" . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Did they click on the link? Or just google for it?

    http://www.trump.com/

    If you click on the link, it takes you to a lot of places all over the world from all the hotels to their Trump International Realty properties. Sounds like vacation seekers and investors who work for the Alfa Bank were checking out the Trump destinations and properties or Trump Org and Trump himself. Alfa Bank has over 15,000 employees. The Trump website is a beautiful experience, these magnificent properties, all over the world. Amazing really how hard and smart Donald Trump has worked to create, redevelop and/or restore such beautiful places.

    There are all types of explanations and of course the best explanation would be the potential Russian fascination with Trump, what he's accomplished and a general interest in him and his accomplishments because of his race for President and his expressed desire to want to improve relations with Russia. The Russians were very excited about this and what it could mean to them, our country and the world, after all these years.

    Alfa Bank is the largest bank in Russia.

    I would also imagine all the Russians who work directly for the Russian government were looking up the website address for the Trump Organization and doing the same thing. I imagine lots of Russians were doing that. What about Chinese banks, did they google for Trump Organization a lot in 2016? I bet they did. Is there a business like a bank in China that looked up the address more times than Alfa Bank? I bet so. What about American banks, did they look it up a lot, too? I bet they did.

    This is a fabricated story totally without real context, just more FAKE NEWS from the FBI and the CIA. We've got big problems, folks, and it isn't Donald J Trump. You can take that to any bank or intel agency you wish.



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    These "computer scientists" weren't working for the government. The government has no authority or permission whatsoever to be investigating the private server of the Trump Organization.

    These computer scientists need to be arrested if you ask me, right along with these government hackers spying on Americans.
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    Slate and The New York Times were first to report the unusual server activity.

    The Times said the FBI had concluded there could be an "innocuous explanation." And cybersecurity experts told CNN this isn't how two entities would communicate if they wanted to keep things secret.

    But for those who have studied the data, the activity could suggest an intent to communicate by email during a period of time when ties between the Trump Organization and Russia are being closely scrutinized because of Russia's alleged involvement in hacking the emails of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign chief John Podesta.

    This issue intrigued a dozen computer researchers at a recent business conference in Washington, D.C. that pulled together the world's top network operators, the ones who help run the internet. To them, it's a strange coincidence that merits further scrutiny.
    Another computer researcher, Richard Clayton of Cambridge University, said it's just plain weird.
    "It's not so much a smoking gun as a faint whiff of smoke a long way away. Maybe there's something else going on. It's hard to tell," said Clayton, who has independently examined the scant evidence available.
    Fusion GPS Tied To Story Used By Clinton Campaign To Attack Trump Week Before The Election


    PETER HASSON
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    9:11 PM 12/11/2017

    A new report ties Fusion GPS to a flawed (but sensational) story claiming nefarious ties between the Trump Organization and a Russian bank, which Hillary Clinton’s campaign immediately used to attack Republican nominee Donald Trump a week before the 2016 election.

    On October 31, 2016, Slate’s Franklin Foer wrote a story alleging secret communications between Trump’s company and Russian bank Alfa. Foer’s story cited a group of computer scientists who claimed to have proof of server pings between Alfa’s server and a Trump hotel server. Foer’s piece argued that the server pings represented a secret line of communication between Trump and the Russians.

    That story, which failed to pass follow-up media scrutiny, originated with Fusion GPS, The Washington Times reported on Sunday. The explanation for the server pings appears to be spam from a third-party marketing company used by Trump’s organization, a follow-up investigation from The Intercept revealed.

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    “Fusion pushed the story that a special email server existed between Trump Tower and Moscow’s Alfa bank,” as part of the group’s efforts to plant anti-Trump stories in the media, the Times reported.

    That report is consistent with previously reported facts, including that Fusion was briefing various reporters on the contents of the anti-Trump dossier. The dossier, which BuzzFeed published in February, accused Alpha’s partners of having a close relationship with Putin and doing favors for him.

    Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee hired Fusion GPS in April 2016 to produce opposition research on Trump, including the infamous anti-Trump dossier, which Fusion outsourced to former British spy Christopher Steele.

    Fusion co-founder Glenn Simpson and Foer were both featured speakers at an elite Washington, D.C. journalism conference three weeks before the story went up. Foer, who is now an editor at The Atlantic, did not return an email seeking comment about Fusion GPS’ role in his story.

    The Clinton campaign immediately used Foer’s hit piece, which was reportedly produced by their own opposition research firm, to accuse Trump of being too close with Russia.

    “This secret hotline may be the key to unlocking Trump’s ties to Russia,” Clinton campaign press secretary Jake Sullivan said at the time, calling it “the most direct link yet between Donald Trump and Moscow.”

    The campaign sent out a tweet from Hillary Clinton’s Twitter account attacking Trump for the story. The tweet went viral, getting more than 28,000 likes or retweets.

    Foer’s story was discredited soon after, including by liberal news sources like Vox and The Washington Post. A story in the Post titled, “That secret Trump-Russia email server link is likely neither secret nor a Trump-Russia link,” brutally dismissed the accusations in Foer’s story.

    Several outlets, it was revealed, had declined to run the same story because it wasn’t credible.

    “At least five outlets including The Intercept have been looking at this for weeks and decided it didn’t add up,” Sam Biddle, a reporter at The Intercept tweeted at the time, adding: “The Trump/Alfa story could be true, but we all looked at the same data Foer did and it just won’t take you to that conclusion.”

    Fusion’s role in the shaky story raises further questions about the credibility of the infamous anti-Trump dossier, much of which remains unconfirmed and some of which has been debunked. It also provides further evidence of Fusion’s ability to manufacture misleading media narratives on behalf of a client.

    The same day that Foer’s story went up on Slate, Mother Jones reporter David Corn wrote an article citing the dossier and directly quoting Steele, although neither he nor Fusion was named in the story.

    Senate witnesses have repeatedly described Fusion as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.
    Fusion is reported to have paid multiple journalists as part of its Russia-related work. The names of those journalists are currently unknown.

    REP. JIM JORDAN EXPLAINS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE CLINTON FOUNDATION AND FUSION GPS watch video at link.

    Chuck Ross contributed reporting.
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    Like I said months ago, all these people need to go to jail and lose all access to any "cyber security".
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