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    Stop Caving on Immigration, 2016 Contenders

    By The Editors — March 3, 2015

    The Republican presidential field is united in its opposition to President Obama’s executive amnesty, and also united in a lazy consensus on immigration policy.

    The range of opinion among prospective GOP candidates is astonishingly narrow, and the proposed measures unsatisfactory. Jeb Bush has been loudly criticized for encouraging legal status, and in some cases even citizenship, for illegal immigrants. But Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal have endorsed the same view, while Ted Cruz and Rand Paul have embraced offering legal status, if not citizenship. Scott Walker has made Bush-like statements as recently as 2013. Additionally, Republican candidates are basically unanimous in their support for a guest-worker program and higher levels of legal immigration.

    There is no political need for such uniformity. A recent Gallup poll showed that 39 percent of Americans want less immigration, while only 7 percent want more. Republican candidates have thoughtlessly and needlessly associated themselves with a view that has very little public support.

    They would do well to emphasize the need for enforcement first. Ted Cruz, to his credit, has done this, and Scott Walker is moving in that direction. “First and foremost, you’ve got to secure that border, or none of these plans make sense,” Walker said on Fox News Sunday last weekend, noting that he has made opposition to amnesty “a firm position” because of “the way this president has handled the issue.” At CPAC, Marco Rubio enunciated an enforcement-first position. Bush may be migrating rightward as well. He declared at CPAC that “enforc[ing] borders for national-security purposes, public-health purposes, and the rule of law” should be our “first and foremost” priority.

    These are promising developments. But enforcement of immigration laws must go beyond the border. It has to include a system to prevent visa over-stayers, and a way of enforcing immigration laws at the point of employment. As long as employers can hire illegal immigrants easily and with few repercussions if caught, immigrants who are uninterested in enduring the slog of our legal immigration system have a strong incentive to enter the country illegally. Candidates cannot neglect these other crucial components of enforcement — or the need, in pursuing them, to rebuild the relationships between state and local authorities and immigration officials that have been strained under the current administration.

    Successfully enforcing existing laws would enable the Congress and a willing administration to turn their attention to the problem of illegal immigrants who have lived here long enough to become embedded in their communities. Our first priority is to build a working system for enforcement that ensures amnesty won’t become a magnet for new illegal immigration. Once that is in place, the legalization of some portion of the illegal population in exchange for reforms in the legal immigration system — including a reduction in levels — becomes possible.

    For some time, a political elite out of step with the general public has cudgeled Republicans with cries of racism and nativism when they have sought to oppose permissive immigration policies. And Republican business interests always favor an ever-growing supply of low-skilled labor. But more restrictive immigration policies, combined with actual border security and the enforcement of America’s immigration laws, would be much better for the economic and social health of the country in the long term. It would aid in assimilation, foreclose the creation of a new illegal-immigrant problem, and avoid suppressing wages of low-skilled workers, among other things.

    Republicans need to be willing (and able) to articulate such policies — among one another, and then to the broader electorate.

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    Republicans need to be willing (and able) to articulate such policies — among one another, and then to the broader electorate.
    Republicans are not only articulating the policies we want amongst ourselves, but howling it to the broader electorate. The problem is not with Republicans. We are 90% UNITED on this issue. The problem is the Whatever You Want To Call Them candidates for President, the "Leaders" of the US Congress and the 10% who for selfish religious and business reasons want more immigration any way they can get it to line their coffers and pockets at the expense of the rest of the country.
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    The GOP has just declared the House of Representatives irrelevant. All the bluster after the med terms has turned into a joke. They are showing us exactly how they handle things when they come to power. It is certainly looking very good for Rand Paul right now. Wonder how many are shifting to independent voters. I exited the GOP when they ran Mccain for president. I would be expecting to see a lot of that now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo47 View Post
    The GOP has just declared the House of Representatives irrelevant. All the bluster after the med terms has turned into a joke. They are showing us exactly how they handle things when they come to power. It is certainly looking very good for Rand Paul right now. Wonder how many are shifting to independent voters. I exited the GOP when they ran Mccain for president. I would be expecting to see a lot of that now.
    Regarding Ron Paul, I would respectfully disagree. He's an amnesty supporter, free trader, and open border guy.

    Being an Independent doesn't necessarily make you better on the issue of illegal immigration and border security. If you want proof of that, just take a look at the current Independents in the U.S. Congress. Just saying ........

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    I have a problem with this article because I have not seen Ted Cruz or Bobby Jindal support amnesty/open borders. Their position on the issue certainly can't be compared to Jeb Bush's. It would be to our benefit if the writer of this article provided something to substantiate such a claim.

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    Republicans have had nearly 30 yrs. to correct the error of Nov. 1986. What did they do yesterday, fund unconstitutional works. That s not the mark a party makes trying to correct wrongs. IN UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT NEVER A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY WILL DO THE RIGHT THINGS. The have ha opportunities to show what they are, and have proven to be dishonest and disinterested in welfare of Americans needing/seeking jobs. We can do well without them, I believe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    The problem is the Whatever You Want To Call Them candidates for President, the "Leaders" of the US Congress and the 10% who for selfish religious and business reasons want more immigration any way they can get it to line their coffers and pockets at the expense of the rest of the country.
    The first rule of politics is, Follow the money. Nothing works every time, but this is always a good place to start. The church groups who support amnesty are licking their chops over the new money which the next wave of illegals will drop into the collection plates. The Repub leadership's big money donors are licking their chops over the stagnant wages that the next wave of illegals will ensure.

    The American lower middle class will get clobbered as the current batch of illegals moves up, and the poorest Americans, many of whom are black, will be condemned to another generation of confusion and anger, as the next wave of illegals undercuts them for entry level jobs.

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    Respectfully, we should never concede any type of Amnesty in exchange for Immigration Reforms period as you suggested. I will tell you why. Once Amnesty is given it is pretty much a guarantee that cannot be changed but the reform exchanged for, just like the laws now in place, can be ignored at anytime by any administration. In other words just because an administration is now enforcing a law or reform does not mean that once the exchanged for Amnesty is secured that the Reform or law will not than be ignored once the Amnesty is secured. Your setting yourself up to be shot in the back!
    The current and any subsequent administration MUST know that the American People will NOT surrender anything on guaranteed security of our Immigration Laws. That is the responsibility of the Government and we will not except anything else, period. It is a demand that cannot be negotiated for in exchange for looking the other way period to violations of our immigration laws by anybody.
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    Cruz is Pro Amnesty and Pro Open Borders period. Citizenship has nothing to do with Amnesty, it is only an added Incentive that Illegal Aliens have not stolen so thus you can't be given Amnesty by not being given the fruits of a crime you never committed, i.e. Citizenship.
    Citizenship is just something slick Lawyers like Cruz use to cloud the issue. Here is Cruz's position Legal Status Yes and work Permits Yes which is Amnesty Period, both things Illegals stole. Add to that MASSIVE increases in Legal Immigration equals insanity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpWD0xtN3r4
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    There is an important candidate you forgot, Rick Santorum he has the best position and understanding for decades of any candidate on the Immigration issue Period. See the article http://www.bloombergview.com/article...ion-non-debate

    Santorum on Illegal Immigration: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...3381AB50E23E7E

    Go to 18 min in this link and listen to Santorum on legal Immigration: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...DB148C885F6F71
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