FINALLY A VICTORY

We should all be encouraged with the news I heard last night on Lou Dobbs' program. The administration has sent a letter to Congress asking them to allow the REAL ID Act to be included in the Iraq supplemental bill. I don't know whether ALI-PAC has been actively involved in this particular issue but I know, as an individual, I have. I have written everyone I can think of including the President and Bill Frist and begged them to HONOR their word given to Rep. Sensenbrenner when they were pushing him to sign the 9/11 bill before they adjourned before Christmas and they PROMISED him that they would attach his REAL ID Act to the first "must pass" legislation of the new Congress. But, in the last few weeks, Frist and 10 or 11 other Senators were lobbying others NOT to address it on the Iraq bill. That is just disgusting. The Administration evidently wanted it put off as well.

I believe this is a really good sign that people speaking out CAN make a difference. That is THE ONLY thing I can see that caused this reversal because it sure was beginning to look like that one was going to be dragged out forever and just finally fall by the wayside. So, take heart. The voice of the people is being heard. We must continue the good fight. :D

The government will kill it;every minute that they wait is a minute more for the advocates of illegals to get their game on.I think the only way to get the feds to do anything is to do as much as possible under the powers of each state.Until the United States are really united over this subject the feds will sit back and do like they have been doing-nothing.

Bill O'Reilly on his show last night made the suggestion by question of Impeachment proceedings agains the President if something isn't done on the borders.

Maybe the Administration decided to go for the REAl ID to give us "something" and then just use it to register illegals. We'll see what the intention is.

The way I look at it, it's something and the first gain we've had from the White House.

Dang! I missed O'Reilly last night...

RR

I know we need to stop the illegal immigrants here, but I still have a problem with what the REALID Act entails. It would allow FAR TOO MANY ABUSES by the government to exact on it's own citizens.

I can't support the REALID Act in it's entirety. Sorry, but the reason the founding fathers created our Constitution and form of government was to limit its power and to slow the process, so things could be thought out in its entirety. And we see that it is not happening like it should.

Patience.....

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I know we need to stop the illegal immigrants here, but I still have a problem with what the REALID Act entails. It would allow FAR TOO MANY ABUSES by the government to exact on it's own citizens.

I can't support the REALID Act in it's entirety. Sorry, but the reason the founding fathers created our Constitution and form of government was to limit its power and to slow the process, so things could be thought out in its entirety. And we see that it is not happening like it should.

Patience.....

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The founding fathers had no intention on our population being what it is.

Patience in the past has put this country where it is now, at the peril of being overrun by illegal immigrants.

They are not the immigrants that came to this country in the past and wanted to be a part of the American Dream.

They want to be the majority and make the rules, then see what good our Constitution does us.

There have already been too many abuses by our government while Americans have been asleep.

That is what they are counting on, put the fear of a national identity card and paralyze us into slowing down and considering, do we want this, and think it over some more.

Then loosing our momentum and being back where we were.

I have been debating this with myself, and we already have a national identity card. The Social Security card and Drivers license.

If they can be made it foolproof without any private information on it then maybe it would not be a bad idea.

It doesn't scare me anymore, but being invaded by Mexico and dissolving our borders does.

Not to mention the crappy Trade Bills that give us nothing.

Yes, the SS is like a national identity card. People ask for the social that have no right to ask for it at all. I've started refusing to give it..they can use my DL # or we won't be doing any business.

RR

GO ROADRUNNER!! No one is to ask for your social security number except an entity issuing credit and only with your permission. NO one else is suppose to have it except the government entities entitled in order process your payments to their "funds". That is ALREADY AMERICAN LAW, but we have become a form of "anarchy" with a total abandonment of the Rule of Law in many crucial areas that affect who we are, why we're here and what we're doing.

Yet ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS don't need anything....to get a job, to buy a house, to gain political power.....just "presence".

Weird isn't it???

Globalism.

Darlene, your statement that the national id card doesn't scare you anymore but Mexico invading us and dissolving our borders does, I agree!

HOWEVER, I will add that the real id card WILL NOT solve either Mexico invading us or dissolving the borders. It may be helpful at some later time when we have stopped the invasion and protected our borders.

I still think the REAL ID is a good thing because it would require some form of identification that would not be able to be counterfeited such as a fingerprint or an eye print. The far left is going to cry that that will be an invasion of our privacy but I would rather have a little of my privacy invaded than to have my country invaded by these criminals. And, if we have nothing to hide, it shouldn't bother us. Also, I think it's important that we have national standards for ID that allows people to acquire drivers' licenses. North Carolina is one of 10 or 11 states that makes it so easy for illegals to get a drivers' license. Then, that drivers' license is their key to opening all of the doors for them such as flying on an airplane, voting, etc. It's not a perfect solution but it is SOMETHING. It's a beginning.

Is there really anything that can't be duplicated in time as technology advances?Especially when you have foreign government money,much of which we gave them,the trillions of crime/dope money behind it and without wasting programs like NASA and assorted projects like we do.Does anyone remember Wang computers way back in the 80s-early 90s?Wang was a direct result of the Chinese organized crime effort to keep up with the US Justice Dept.For every effort we can put forth the sad truth is that the bad guys can not just match our money but surpass our money big time.Succesfull crooks want to stay succesfull.

Bootsie, one of the bills ALIPAC is supporting this year in the North Carolina Legislature will be a reversal of the recent law that authorized drivers license for illegal aliens in North Carolina.

This legislation that was passed about 4 to 5 years ago was wrong. It should have never happened.

It was part of a national legislative agenda executed by the National Council of La Raza in many states, North Carolina was one that passed it.

The Globalists have been at work and are the ones behind the legislation. They were hiring illegals and the illegals needed a car to drive to work and needed a license to drive the car. Otherwise, they might be stopped and hauled off to jail and miss some time at work or be deported and never return to work.

The Globalists have been planning for a long time. They've been using the good nature of the American People and Legislators to help "poor immigrants", when it fact it was helping Globalists to enter their final coup de grace to take over the world.

The Globalists will lose, but un-doing all they've done already will take some time. Hopefully the problem we are experiencing here in North Carolina can be resolved quickly and expeditiously with passage of the new legislations presently in the General Assembly that William and ALIPAC are commited to.

Because we now know that we can no longer trust our Government, the concerns about privacy and the RealID Card are real and usage of it should be very limited and limited to the few instances of addressing the simple question of: are you legal or not, citizen or not.

The RealID Card idea came up when we believed that our Government didn't know "who they were" "where they were" or "what they're doing".

Now that we know they did know "who they were" "where they were" and "what they're doing"...the ID Card is no longer as serious an issue as it was before. However, for identificatio purposes, I would rather have an ID Card than constantly be asked to use my social security number or driver's license number.

On the otherhand, I expect now they'll want all three.

Now that could be annoying.

Three steps forward, two steps back. It may still be one net step forward.

Thanks for the information, Judy. I do see your point and I'm sure William will let us know when we need to start bombarding our representatives about in changes in the NC Drivers' License procedures! And, I DO think it's important to identify the illegals in this country because then we could set about the task of DEPORTING them! Also, I have some serious questions about whether we have a LOT of illegals actually voting. Any statistics on that???

Bootsie..I don't have any voting statistics. But look for the article I placed on "We Can Turn Elections". This is an overview written by the President of the Hispanic Association of Corporate Responsibility. They state as part of this mission that changing the political power in the United States by population demographics and getting their people out to vote is basically what they're all about.

https://www.alipac.us/ftopict-2108.html

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one of the bills ALIPAC is supporting this year in the North Carolina Legislature will be a reversal of the recent law that authorized drivers license for illegal aliens in North Carolina.

This legislation that was passed about 4 to 5 years ago was wrong. It should have never happened.

It was part of a national legislative agenda executed by the National Council of La Raza in many states, North Carolina was one that passed it.

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NJ is right behind you guys :evil: They're in the middle of getting ready to push this one.

No the Real ID act won't stop illegal immigration, but it will certainly help deter it. It will force states to stop handing out drivers licenses to illegals like it's candy. It will help keep terrorists from getting their hands on these documents. The Real ID act is not a precursor to getting a national ID card. That is what the OBL and the left wants you to think. All it is, is merely the federal government setting tougher standards on being able to acquire a drivers license and reign in the rogue states who irresponsibly give out drivers licenses to illegal aliens and possibly terrorists. It is unconscienable in a post 9-11 world that we don't have federal standards on making sure that we have a full proof way of making sure that our precious documents used as ID don't fall into the wrong hands.

So those of you who are against the Real ID Act because of some falsehoods that the OBL and left told you about invasion of privacy. Well think about that next time the next Mohammed Atta boards a plane heading for a neighborhood near you. You never know, it could be your neighborhood or you on that plane. Think about that the only reason why the next Mohammed Atta was able to board that plane was because you fought against opposing drivers licenses for illegal aliens and terrorists. Then you won't have to worry about privacy then when your remains are buried 6 feet deep in an urn somewhere out in the middle of grave yard.

Wake up people. This isn't just an immigration issue. It's a national security issue. 19 hijackers had 63 drivers licenses on them from multiple states. They were illegal aliens and they used those licenses to board a plane. The Real ID Act would have stopped that.

The only way Bush can register illegals with this Real ID act is if he gives them amnesty. Well we can't let that happen now can we?

Judy--that article is just plain SCARY! WE ARE BEING OVERRUN!

Okay--I'm ready to fight some more!

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Yes, the SS is like a national identity card. People ask for the social that have no right to ask for it at all. I've started refusing to give it. they can use my DL # or we won't be doing any business.

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I am the same way. I refuse to give it at the doctors office. They got mad at me. They also got mad when I wouldn’t sign a form that allows them to release my information. They said it was for insurance reasons. I told them, "No problem, I don’t have insurance and will be paying cash so I wont sign the form" the office manager made a phone call and I heard my name being mentioned and that I wouldn’t sign or give....

I wonder who she called?

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I wonder who she called?

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Homeland security.