Thread: If Barach Obama is a "Christian"...

Why was he sworn into office on the Koran?

Originally Posted by Sam-I-am

If Barach Obama is a "Christian"...Why was he sworn into office on the Koran?

Where in the world did that come from? I have never seen any proof that BARACK was sworn in on the QURAN. You really need to be a little more careful and research facts before making false accusations.

Keith Ellison is the first and only Muslim in the history of the US to be sworn in using the Quran.

First Muslim member of Congress sworn in
Ellision takes ceremonial oath using Quran owned by Thomas Jefferson
NBC VIDEO


Ellison sworn in using Quran
Jan. 4: Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn. is sworn in using President Jefferson's copy of the Quran in a ceremonial swearing ceremony with Nancy Pelosi. NBC’s Mike Viqueira and MSNBC-TV’s Nora O’Donnell report.
MSNBC


Updated: 4:11 p.m. CT Jan 4, 2007
WASHINGTON - Keith Ellison made history Thursday, becoming the first Muslim member of Congress and punctuating the occasion by taking a ceremonial oath with a Quran once owned by Thomas Jefferson.

"Look at that. That's something else," Ellison, D-Minn., said as officials from the Library of Congress showed him the two-volume Quran, which was published in London in 1764.

A few minutes later, Ellison took the ceremonial oath with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., at his side. So many of Ellison's family members attended the ceremony that it was done in two takes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16473968/

Originally Posted by WhatMattersMost

Originally Posted by Sam-I-am

If Barach Obama is a "Christian"...Why was he sworn into office on the Koran?

Where in the world did that come from? I have never seen any proof that BARACK was sworn in on the QURAN. You really need to be a little more careful and research facts before making false accusations.

Keith Ellison is the first and only Muslim in the history of the US to be sworn in using the Quran.

First Muslim member of Congress sworn in
Ellision takes ceremonial oath using Quran owned by Thomas Jefferson
NBC VIDEO


Ellison sworn in using Quran
Jan. 4: Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn. is sworn in using President Jefferson's copy of the Quran in a ceremonial swearing ceremony with Nancy Pelosi. NBC’s Mike Viqueira and MSNBC-TV’s Nora O’Donnell report.
MSNBC


Updated: 4:11 p.m. CT Jan 4, 2007
WASHINGTON - Keith Ellison made history Thursday, becoming the first Muslim member of Congress and punctuating the occasion by taking a ceremonial oath with a Quran once owned by Thomas Jefferson.

"Look at that. That's something else," Ellison, D-Minn., said as officials from the Library of Congress showed him the two-volume Quran, which was published in London in 1764.

A few minutes later, Ellison took the ceremonial oath with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., at his side. So many of Ellison's family members attended the ceremony that it was done in two takes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16473968/

Then Barack is either an islamic apostate (punishable by death) or a fake Christian:

Barack Hussein Obama's father, grandfather and stepfather were Muslims. He attended Muslim schools.
Obama is supposed to be a Christian convert, but he's also then a Muslim apostate. "Whoever changes his religion, kill him." Al Bukhari Vol. 9:57 . Why no threats against him?
Once a Muslim, always a Muslim by Koran laws.
What if Obama is engaged in pious fraud? This is a Muslim practice (Al Takeyya) of pretending not to be Muslim to further the cause of Islam or to "defend the faith".
Quran 3:118 Don't be friends with Non-Muslims because they hate you and want to ruin you.
Quran 4:52 Those (Christians and Jews) are they whom Allah hath cursed.
Quran 9:33 Islam will prevail over all religions.

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.
Everything we need to know is in the Koran. We don't need to look somewhere else."
Omar M. Ahmad, chairman of CAIR, the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.

Barack Obama was never Muslim to begin with. He is Christian. He just has a Muslim name because his parents named him that way.

Welcome to Alipac Potts!!!!!!

BO is a Senator but he ain't going to be a President!

That we know for sure.

Dixie

Obama's biological father was a muslim, but Barack has never been around the man. He is not and never has been a muslim.

Originally Posted by Dixie

Welcome to Alipac Potts!!!!!!

BO is a Senator but he ain't going to be a President!

That we know for sure.

Dixie

thanks for welcoming me lets hope the america people choose the right candidates for this country.

[quote=Sam-I-am][quote=WhatMattersMost]

Originally Posted by Sam-I-am":345hz4fb]If Barach Obama is a "Christian"...Why was he sworn into office on the Koran?[/quote]

Where in the world did that come from? I have never seen any proof that BARACK was sworn in on the QURAN. You really need to be a little more careful and research facts before making false accusations.

Keith Ellison is the first and only Muslim in the history of the US to be sworn in using the Quran.

[quote]First Muslim member of Congress sworn in
Ellision takes ceremonial oath using Quran owned by Thomas Jefferson
NBC VIDEO


Ellison sworn in using Quran
Jan. 4: Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn. is sworn in using President Jefferson's copy of the Quran in a ceremonial swearing ceremony with Nancy Pelosi. NBC’s Mike Viqueira and MSNBC-TV’s Nora O’Donnell report.
MSNBC


Updated: 4:11 p.m. CT Jan 4, 2007
WASHINGTON - Keith Ellison made history Thursday, becoming the first Muslim member of Congress and punctuating the occasion by taking a ceremonial oath with a Quran once owned by Thomas Jefferson.

"Look at that. That's something else," Ellison, D-Minn., said as officials from the Library of Congress showed him the two-volume Quran, which was published in London in 1764.

A few minutes later, Ellison took the ceremonial oath with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., at his side. So many of Ellison's family members attended the ceremony that it was done in two takes.[/quote]

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Then Barack is either an islamic apostate (punishable by death) or a fake Christian:

Barack Hussein Obama's father, grandfather and stepfather were Muslims. He attended Muslim schools.
Obama is supposed to be a Christian convert, but he's also then a Muslim apostate. "Whoever changes his religion, kill him." Al Bukhari Vol. 9:57 . Why no threats against him?
Once a Muslim, always a Muslim by Koran laws.
What if Obama is engaged in pious fraud? This is a Muslim practice (Al Takeyya) of pretending not to be Muslim to further the cause of Islam or to "defend the faith".
Quran 3:118 Don't be friends with Non-Muslims because they hate you and want to ruin you.
Quran 4:52 Those (Christians and Jews) are they whom Allah hath cursed.
Quran 9:33 Islam will prevail over all religions.

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.
Everything we need to know is in the Koran. We don't need to look somewhere else."
Omar M. Ahmad, chairman of CAIR, the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.[/quote:345hz4fb]

Again, posting something untrue, with absolutely no proof to back it up and then attempting to justify it is just wrong.

WELCOME TO ALIPAC POTTS!

OK, he wasn't sworn in on the koran, but why can't you refute what I stated above? Barack attended muslim schools, but he WASN'T a muslim?
Why should I believe he's Christian at all? HOw do I know he's not simply
practicing Al Takeyya?

Sam-I-am

JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- Allegations that Sen. Barack Obama was educated in a radical Muslim school known as a "madrassa" are not accurate, according to CNN reporting.

Insight Magazine, which is owned by the same company as The Washington Times, reported on its Web site last week that associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, had unearthed information the Illinois Democrat and likely presidential candidate attended a Muslim religious school known for teaching the most fundamentalist form of Islam.

Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school, but an aide said it was not a madrassa. (Watch video of Obama's school )

Insight attributed the information in its article to an unnamed source, who said it was discovered by "researchers connected to Senator Clinton." A spokesman for Clinton, who is also weighing a White House bid, denied that the campaign was the source of the Obama claim.

He called the story "an obvious right-wing hit job."

Insight stood by its story in a response posted on its Web site Monday afternoon.

The Insight article was cited several times Friday on Fox News and was also referenced by the New York Post, The Glenn Beck program on CNN Headline News and a number of political blogs. (Watch how the Obama "gossip" spread )

School not a madrassa
But reporting by CNN in Jakarta, Indonesia and Washington, D.C., shows the allegations that Obama attended a madrassa to be false. CNN dispatched Senior International Correspondent John Vause to Jakarta to investigate.He visited the Basuki school, which Obama attended from 1969 to 1971.

"This is a public school. We don't focus on religion," Hardi Priyono, deputy headmaster of the Basuki school, told Vause. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment."

Vause reported he saw boys and girls dressed in neat school uniforms playing outside the school, while teachers were dressed in Western-style clothes.

"I came here to Barack Obama's elementary school in Jakarta looking for what some are calling an Islamic madrassa ... like the ones that teach hate and violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan," Vause said on the "Situation Room" Monday. "I've been to those madrassas in Pakistan ... this school is nothing like that."

Vause also interviewed one of Obama's Basuki classmates, Bandug Winadijanto, who claims that not a lot has changed at the school since the two men were pupils. Insight reported that Obama's political opponents believed the school promoted Wahhabism, a fundamentalist form of Islam, "and are seeking to prove it."

"It's not (an) Islamic school. It's general," Winadijanto said. "There is a lot of Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian. ... So that's a mixed school."

The Obama aide described Fox News' broadcasting of the Insight story "appallingly irresponsible."

Fox News executive Bill Shine told CNN "Reliable Sources" anchor Howard Kurtz that some of the network's hosts were simply expressing their opinions and repeatedly cited Insight as the source of the allegations.

Obama has noted in his two books, "Dreams From My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope," that he spent two years in a Muslim school and another two years in a Catholic school while living in Indonesia from age 6 to 10.

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