Thread: Free & Reduced lunch for Non-U.S. Citizens!

If I'm going to pay for those kids to get free lunches they'd better mow my yard for free afterwards!

In Mass-hole-chusetts the town of Marlboro now has to charge all "citizens" whose children ride the buses to school $250.00 per school year. Why? Because the largely illegal Brazilian population DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY TO PUT THEIR KIDS ON THE BUSES!

Private schools are becoming the only way to go. I'll work 100+ hours a week to make sure my kids don't have to deal with this crap. Public schools are turning into a socialist nightmare, like the rest of society, over immigration.

Think about it: all this issue is revolves around the redistribution of wealth from the haves to the have nots, a pillar of classic Marxism. The difference is the have nots WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE HERE FROM DAY ONE!

Originally Posted by America_In_Danger

Well, it's back to school for all of our young future leaders here in the US. And that scares the heck out of me.

So in all the hub-bub after the first day of school, parents are deluged with form after form (after form), but one struck my wife and I like a 2x4 upside the head.

Upon looking over the form to apply for free or reduced lunch, close to the bottom on the back, was a sentence stating that you DO NOT HAVE TO BE A US CITIZEN TO APPLY FOR FREE OR REDUCED LUNCH!

WHAT!!!????

Is this not madness? I have to pay full price, because I make a little too much to apply even for the reduced lunch, yet you and I get to fund all the illegals, oh excuse me, UNDOCUMENTED WORKER'S children. This is just something else that we have to get rid of. I say FREE and REDUCED lunch for US Citizens, and make all the illegals, darn, excuse me again, UNDOCUMENTED WORKER'S children and their parents pay FULL PRICE!

And another thing!!

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I'm just tired of paying for them, as I'm sure many on this forum and country are....

WHAT!!!????
This is exactly the way I feel about and view this situation too. I'm tired of paying for them (illegal aliens excuse me undocumented workers and their children) too and having other taxpayers overburdened to boot.

I have two children in the North Carolina public school system, one in elementary and one in high school.

Looking through the gadzillions of forms parents must look through and sometimes fill out at the beginning of each school year (but they snag parents with "extra homework" all year long too and always seek parent volunteers - cannot blame them with present circumstances but perhaps if we weren't educating millions of illegal's children from third world countries each year parents wouldn't be called upon so much to fill the voids nor the PTA either) I too noticed the "free & reduced lunch program" form stated that you DO NOT HAVE TO BE A US CITIZEN TO APPLY FOR FREE OR REDUCED LUNCH. I'm very angry, but not very surprised. The form was also printed on one side in English and on the other side in Spanish.

Speaking of dual languages, my kids brought home thicker than normal school "Student/Parent Handbooks" for K-12th grades. When I pulled out the handbook from my youngest child's bookbag after the first day of school, I was stunned and believe said out loud: WHAT???, I don't even speak Spanish. I'd seen the side first that is printed all in Spanish. Flip it over and upside down and it's in English. I didn't recall this last year but checked the "school" file in my overflowing and outdated home file and low and behold I did keep the last two years' of official school handbooks. Just as now - the 2005-06 school year - the 2004-05 handbook was bi-lingual. However, the 2003-04 handbook was only printed in English and was almost half (less) the size as the current. I wonder just how much extra the almost double printed pages of the bi-lingual handbook cost US legal citizens in taxdollars, not to mention they had to hire people to translate the entire guidelines from English into Spanish.

In addition, I had a question to ask the staff a day or two before the actual school date began and knowing the staff often start at least one week before the students attend. I thought I'd get a human being online -I thought wrong. Instead, I got a voice mail of the main administrative staff person with a very lengthy message (in English). When the message in English ended and I believed I was signaled to start recording my drivel in the voice mail, I had to listen to the very same lengthy message over again and in its' entirety but this time in Spanish. This later change is new this year, I believe, and shows just how fast the USA is being invaded by undocumented illegal alien hispanic workers who refuse or cannot learn to speak our national language of English.

Let me leave with a report from the Federation for American Immigration Reform. This particular report I'm linking to is very long and was already posted by another Alipac member less than three months ago, so I won't copy and paste the entire article, just provide the link.

FAIR Updated Report 2004, "Breaking the Piggy Bank: How Illegal Immigration is Sending Schools Into the Red."


According to this FAIR report that estimates the costs of educating both the illegal alien students and the US born (anchor baby) children of illegal aliens in 2004: California at # 1 costs its' taxpayers 7.728.5 billion annually. North Carolina (my home State) is # 8 and costs taxpayers 771.1 million annually.

The figures cited above and in the report do not include extra expenses forced on legal citizen taxpayers such as ESL (dual language programs) or free or reduced lunch programs.

And they wonder what causes white flight.

I think creating more and more and more bills isn't the answer, and like the California driver license another bill can be created right behind it.

1) They shouldn't be here.

2) It's against the law not to feed your child.

3) Amnesty is against the law, no state or federal govt is authorized to grant amnesty. Free anything, or a driver license, is a form of amnesty.

lawmakers should be charged under the Rico Act and we should recoup the costs from their property.

Originally Posted by Lambsmarch

I think creating more and more and more bills isn't the answer, and like the California driver license another bill can be created right behind it.

1) They shouldn't be here.

2) It's against the law not to feed your child.

3) Amnesty is against the law, no state or federal govt is authorized to grant amnesty. Free anything, or a driver license, is a form of amnesty.

lawmakers should be charged under the Rico Act and we should recoup the costs from their property.

That is the point exactly. Why do we need more bills? If we stick to, and uphold our current laws then things would run a lot smoother. Why fix something that isn't broke, remember that cliché? America has grown to be the only super power with the current laws that we have in place, why do we need more, why do we need cheap labor (illegal aliens, h-1b, and l1 visas)? We don't, it is all WTO, FTAA, Corporate American propaganda. Their propaganda is remarkably similar to the Nazi war machine, aimed at the American working class.

I'm curious what the impact of the hurricane "refugees" will have on illegal aliens -- many of these children are going to be sent to another state for their education. All those folks sent to Texas have nothing to return home to, so more than likely they will stay in Texas and compete with illegals.

the American people are outraged at how the federal government has "rescued" these people in New Orleans, but I think they would be more outraged if they realized how much money the federal government gives to illegal aliens.


Katrina has captured the eyes and ears of the United States and the world -- the treatment of OUR citizens is a disgrace and would be even more reprehensible if the media would compare the treatment of "illegals" ..

My son wasn't given a copy of the Student/Parent handbook this year but I did have some questions so I checked out the Wake County, NC, Public School System's web site and it has it both in English and Spanish. The handbook for last year was also in English and Spanish.

http://www.wcpss.net/parent-handbooks/index.html

I could see the necessity for this maybe in the southwest but in North Carolina.....Just goes to show the number of the influx of Spanish speaking people we have here. I'm sure a lot are illegal. I also noticed that this year the handbook was larger and that is due to added information on gang issues. Wonder where those people are coming from.

I wasn't aware you had to pay for illegal's lunches at schools! That's disgusting. I bet if you added up all the tax money you pay for the illegals, you could send your kids to private schools.

Just heard on Fox...man from Tn. said he picked up some flood victims, said he had a truck load of illegals!!! Said he wasn't sure it would be safe for him to take them to Tn...but he did.

He said some stayed in Pigeon Forge and others wanted to go elsewhere, where upon they bought them tickets (plane or bus) to go there!

They should have driven to the closest ICE office!!!

Originally Posted by JohnB2012

My son wasn't given a copy of the Student/Parent handbook this year but I did have some questions so I checked out the Wake County, NC, Public School System's web site and it has it both in English and Spanish. The handbook for last year was also in English and Spanish.

I received a copy of a monthly newsletter last week from a town with a population of about 14,000. Nothing odd about this. It arrives every month. But this month was different and I was livid! Of the four-page piece, one article took one-half the lower half of the front page. It continued on the inside for I forget how long. Entirely in Spanish, I could tell from the headline the article was entirely different than the one in English. Guess it had something to do with the local police since "polic" or some word like that was part of the headline. I should have saved it but was so livid I tossed it in the trash.

I bolded the free lunch part, but the whole article is worth reading even though most of it is off topic in this discussion.


www.latimes.com

L.A. Cuts Back Year-Round Schools
As crowding eases, the return to a traditional calendar puts more kids on the same page.
By Jean Merl and Erika Hayasaki
Times Staff Writers

September 6, 2005

When the opening bell rings today at South Gate High School, it will, for the first time in nearly a generation, signal the actual start of a new school year.

For years, scores of Los Angeles schools have worked on year-round schedules that relieved overcrowding but interfered with students' having the classes they needed, summer jobs they wanted or clubs and activities they hoped to join. Nearly 200 of the most crowded schools, including South Gate, had to shave 17 days off the school year to make room for everyone.

This week, for nearly two dozen schools, including Van Nuys High and Ramona Elementary, the deeply disliked year-round schedule is coming to an end, the first widely tasted fruits of the Los Angeles Unified School District's $9.2-billion program to build new schools.

At South Gate, the year-round schedule has been imposed since 1981, long enough for Jesus Angulo to begin with it in first grade and stay on it through graduation, then work with it as a teacher and an assistant principal.

Now he is principal of the new South East High School, which opens today on a traditional calendar. The school, which is also in South Gate, is one of 13 new ones to open this week and 32 to open during this academic year across the nation's second-largest school district.

"Just to have the continuity of all the teachers and kids within the same system creates a better learning environment," Angulo said. "No matter how hard you tried, there was always one track that got shortchanged." Trying to make up for the lost 17 days in three-track schools by adding time to each school day didn't work, Angulo and others said.

The traditional single-track school year "is going to maximize learning," Angulo said. "I foresee a reduced number of dropouts and more kids entering universities," he said.

In addition to the 22 L.A. Unified schools and one charter school that are moving to the traditional September-to-June schedule, 35 are switching to a year-round calendar that gives them 180 days of classes instead of the 163 offered at the district's most jampacked campuses.

About 85,000 students are moving off the shorter calendar, raising hopes among parents and school officials that the added days in class will lead to improved achievement.

"Now we'll get those 17 days back, and we can use our summer the way it should be used, to help our children catch up," said Susan Lio Arcaris, principal of Ramona Elementary School in east Hollywood, which is switching to a traditional calendar after more than 20 years of operating year-round.

"It's going to be wonderful to have everybody in the same place in the instructional program at the same time," Arcaris said.

As is the case at many of the district's most crowded schools, Ramona's largely minority students all qualify for the federal government's free or reduced-price lunch program, and many are just learning English.

They are typical of the youngsters who have borne the brunt of the severe overcrowding during the many years in which the district did not build new schools.

The construction program is expected to add about 160 schools over a decade, helping the district approach its goal of putting its nearly 740,000 students on a September-to-June calendar in their own neighborhoods.

Last year the district settled a class-action suit over inequities in California's public education system, pledging to put all schools on a 180-day school year â€â€