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    I need info regarding Foreign worker visas, can you help?

    I am writing another rebuttal in response to an editorial by the terrible twosome, Cokie and Steve Roberts, which was recently printed in the Bucks County Courier Times. This is the second time in approximately six months these traitors have extolled the virtues of the H1-B foreign worker, even as the American unemployment rate exceeds 8.5%.

    I need to be as accurate as possible, and I know that some of you here at ALIPAC are better versed than I with regard to this data.

    Can someone give me a relatively accurate count of the number foreign workers admitted to this country annually on the H1-B and any other visa programs we currently allow?

    Also, if your local paper has printed this piece of traitorous trash and you can tell me the date it ran, and are willing to give me the contact information, I’d like to submit it to them as well. If you can provide the link to the editorial, even better.

    Thank you for your help in this matter.
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    Melena, I'd be happy to help all I can. One disturbing fact about the Roberts' article:

    Obama needs to hear equally strong language on the subject of H-1B visas. Several new studies show conclusively that immigrant entrepreneurs contribute enormously to job creation. A report by Robert W. Fairlie for the Small Business Administration found that immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business than non-immigrants; they represent 16.7 percent of all business owners in the country and generate $67 billion in annual income.
    This talks about entrepreneurs aka business owners, what does that have to do with work visas? I thought a work visa was permission to work FOR someone, not permission to come here and start your own business?

    Here are the links to the papers who published the Roberts' dreck:

    http://www.trentonian.com/articles/2009 ... 313347.txt

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0209/croberts.php3

    The numbers:


    H-1B
    classification applies to persons in a specialty occupation which requires the theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge requiring completion of a specific course of higher education. This classification requires a labor attestation issued by the Secretary of Labor (65,000). This classification also applies to Government-to-Government research and development, or co-production projects administered by the Department of Defense (100);

    H-1C classification applies to foreign nurses coming to perform nursing services in medically underserved areas for a temporary period up to three years. The Nursing Relief for Disadvantaged Areas Act of 1999 (NRDAA) has been reauthorized for an additional three years, and will expire on December 20, 2009. To learn more about the reauthorization of the H-1C program, see Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Press Release.


    H-2A
    classification applies to temporary or seasonal agricultural workers;

    H-2B classification applies to temporary or seasonal nonagricultural workers. This classification requires a temporary labor certification issued by the Secretary of Labor (66,000);

    H-3 classification applies to trainees other than medical or academic. This classification also applies to practical training in the education of handicapped children (50);

    L classification applies to intracompany transferees who, within the three preceding years, have been employed abroad continuously for one year, and who will be employed by a branch, parent, affiliate, or subsidiary of that same employer in the U.S. in a managerial, executive, or specialized knowledge capacity;

    O-1 classification applies to persons who have extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics, or extraordinary achievements in the motion picture and television field;

    O-2 classification applies to persons accompanying an O-1 alien to assist in an artistic or athletic performance for a specific event or performance;

    P-1 classification applies to individual or team athletes, or members of an entertainment group that are internationally recognized (25,000);

    P-2 classification applies to artists or entertainers who will perform under a reciprocal exchange program;


    P-3
    classification applies to artists or entertainers who perform under a program that is culturally unique (same as P-1); and

    Q-1 classification applies to participants in an international cultural exchange program for the purpose of providing practical training, employment, and the sharing of the history, culture, and traditions of the alien's home country.

    http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types ... 271.html#1
    CAP Count for visas - Number of visas issued and when max. reached:

    http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/ ... f3d6a1RCRD

    H-1B Cap Type
    Cap
    Beneficiaries Approved
    Beneficiaries Pending Petitions Receipted
    Beneficiaries

    Pending Petitions yet to be Receipted
    Total
    Date of Last Count

    H-1B (FY 09)
    58,200 1
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    ------
    Cap Reached
    4/1/2008


    H-1B Advanced Degree Exemption (FY 09)
    20,000
    ------
    ------
    ------
    Cap Reached
    4/1/2008




    1 6,800 visas are set aside during the fiscal year for the H-1B1 program under the terms of the legislation implementing the U.S.-Chile and U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreements. Unused numbers in this pool can be made available for H-1B use with start dates beginning on October 1, 2008, the start of FY 2009. USCIS has added 5,800, the projected number of unused H-1B1 Chile/Singapore visas to the FY 2009 H-1B cap.
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    Re: I need info regarding Foreign worker visas, can you help

    Quote Originally Posted by melena29
    This is the second time in approximately six months these traitors have extolled the virtues of the H1-B foreign worker, even as the American unemployment rate exceeds 8.5%.
    H-1Bs have also been hired into management. Once in management they will engage in "revenge firings" to make it look like Americans are not good enough and only foreigners (from the same region of the world as H-1Bs) are qualified for jobs.

    Once in a job, an H-1B can be responsible for laying off 4 or 5 more American workers.

    There is a discussion group going on at dice.com that has centered around the H-1B controversy for several weeks. It is getting emotional so ignore some of the name calling and read the links to the H-1B websites that are provided.

    http://seeker.dice.com/olc/forum.jspa?f ... 10&start=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    This talks about entrepreneurs aka business owners, what does that have to do with work visas? I thought a work visa was permission to work FOR someone, not permission to come here and start your own business?
    I have never heard such falsehoods before as those that surrounds H-1Bs. Pro H-1B lobbyists love to make up the facts as those go along. One moment they are immigrants, the next they are not, and on and on. A large percentage of H-1B use fake resumes and fraudulent documentation to get work, but the pro H-1B lobby wants you to ignore this.

    If you used false documentation to get a job in the US as an H-1B, you have entered the country illegally. Just like LaRaza, pro H-1B lobbyists believe that H-1Bs who enter the country should be allowed to work.

    Can you imagine being seen by doctor from another country who came in with a fake resume?

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    Obama needs to hear equally strong language on the subject of H-1B visas. Several new studies show conclusively that immigrant entrepreneurs contribute enormously to job creation. A report by Robert W. Fairlie for the Small Business Administration found that immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business than non-immigrants; they represent 16.7 percent of all business owners in the country and generate $67 billion in annual income.
    What I take this to mean is that immigrants are starting their own business in this country and then exploiting H-1B visas to bring in workers from their countries of orgin in an effort to avoid hiring American workers and paying those wages.

    Somehow, he are supposed to accept this explotation because immigrants are apparently such great entrepreneurs and a boom for our economy. And what type of loans do immigrants get from our government to start a business in this country? No or low interest loans with favorable repayment terms?
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    Melena,
    You may have seen this research already by Professor Norm Matloff, but just in case:

    H-1Bs: Still Not the Best and the Brightest
    May 2008
    By Norman Matloff

    http://www.cis.org/articles/2008/back508.html
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    Here's more from Matloff on the H-1B scam:

    Companies Seek H-1B Foreign Worker Primarily Because of Age Discrimination

    By Norm Matloff, Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:45 PM

    http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusab ... scriminati
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    In 2008 Total approximately 120k H1b visa were approved. 85k is Cap and remaining are cap exempt for non profit org and universities. Total 84K L1 was approved in 2008. Exact numbers must be in USCIS website. I could not find the link. I will post when I find

    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    Melena, I'd be happy to help all I can. One disturbing fact about the Roberts' article:

    Obama needs to hear equally strong language on the subject of H-1B visas. Several new studies show conclusively that immigrant entrepreneurs contribute enormously to job creation. A report by Robert W. Fairlie for the Small Business Administration found that immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business than non-immigrants; they represent 16.7 percent of all business owners in the country and generate $67 billion in annual income.
    This talks about entrepreneurs aka business owners, what does that have to do with work visas? I thought a work visa was permission to work FOR someone, not permission to come here and start your own business?

    Here are the links to the papers who published the Roberts' dreck:

    http://www.trentonian.com/articles/2009 ... 313347.txt

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0209/croberts.php3

    The numbers:

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    H-1B
    classification applies to persons in a specialty occupation which requires the theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge requiring completion of a specific course of higher education. This classification requires a labor attestation issued by the Secretary of Labor (65,000). This classification also applies to Government-to-Government research and development, or co-production projects administered by the Department of Defense (100);

    H-1C classification applies to foreign nurses coming to perform nursing services in medically underserved areas for a temporary period up to three years. The Nursing Relief for Disadvantaged Areas Act of 1999 (NRDAA) has been reauthorized for an additional three years, and will expire on December 20, 2009. To learn more about the reauthorization of the H-1C program, see Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Press Release.


    H-2A
    classification applies to temporary or seasonal agricultural workers;

    H-2B classification applies to temporary or seasonal nonagricultural workers. This classification requires a temporary labor certification issued by the Secretary of Labor (66,000);

    H-3 classification applies to trainees other than medical or academic. This classification also applies to practical training in the education of handicapped children (50);

    L classification applies to intracompany transferees who, within the three preceding years, have been employed abroad continuously for one year, and who will be employed by a branch, parent, affiliate, or subsidiary of that same employer in the U.S. in a managerial, executive, or specialized knowledge capacity;

    O-1 classification applies to persons who have extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics, or extraordinary achievements in the motion picture and television field;

    O-2 classification applies to persons accompanying an O-1 alien to assist in an artistic or athletic performance for a specific event or performance;

    P-1 classification applies to individual or team athletes, or members of an entertainment group that are internationally recognized (25,000);

    P-2 classification applies to artists or entertainers who will perform under a reciprocal exchange program;


    P-3
    classification applies to artists or entertainers who perform under a program that is culturally unique (same as P-1); and

    Q-1 classification applies to participants in an international cultural exchange program for the purpose of providing practical training, employment, and the sharing of the history, culture, and traditions of the alien's home country.

    http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types ... 271.html#1
    CAP Count for visas - Number of visas issued and when max. reached:

    http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/ ... f3d6a1RCRD

    H-1B Cap Type
    Cap
    Beneficiaries Approved
    Beneficiaries Pending Petitions Receipted
    Beneficiaries

    Pending Petitions yet to be Receipted
    Total
    Date of Last Count

    H-1B (FY 09)
    58,200 1
    ------
    ------
    ------
    Cap Reached
    4/1/2008


    H-1B Advanced Degree Exemption (FY 09)
    20,000
    ------
    ------
    ------
    Cap Reached
    4/1/2008




    1 6,800 visas are set aside during the fiscal year for the H-1B1 program under the terms of the legislation implementing the U.S.-Chile and U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreements. Unused numbers in this pool can be made available for H-1B use with start dates beginning on October 1, 2008, the start of FY 2009. USCIS has added 5,800, the projected number of unused H-1B1 Chile/Singapore visas to the FY 2009 H-1B cap.
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    Thank you all for your help. I'm going to get as many of the facts in as I possibly can. I've searched the links you have provided, but can't seem to find out when the program began. Anyone know? I know it seems like a petty piece of info, but I believe there is a direct correlation between the inception of the visa programs and the outsourcing of American jobs, and the point in time when the economy began to spiral down.

    It is unfortunate that you and I are forced to do the job that the news media is morally responsible to do. We must somehow inform the sleeping masses that they are in danger of extinction.

    Ben Franklin is surely spinning in his grave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by melena29
    I've searched the links you have provided, but can't seem to find out when the program began. Anyone know? I know it seems like a petty piece of info, but I believe there is a direct correlation between the inception of the visa programs and the outsourcing of American jobs, and the point in time when the economy began to spiral down.
    It looks like the H-1 originated in 1952, and the H-1B was created in 1990. See page 6 of this GAO report (in PDF, in the "Background" section):

    http://www.gao.gov/archive/2000/he00157.pdf
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