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    Next battle might be H.R.1645 Flake-Gutierrez Bill "STR

    Depending on how long it takes the supporters of 1348 to regroup, the next bill to fight might be the Flake-Gutierrez Bill in the House of Representatives. In this bill, illegals are "undocumented inidividuals" and "conditional nonimmigrants" that "need their status adjusted."

    There are many online articles about it. Here's one for starters (I'm not familiar with the author; he's an attorney.)
    http://www.vdare.com/mann/070326_mexico.htm

    Below is part of the article.
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    Call It Treason: Flake-Gutierrez Bill Immigration Insanity And Merger With Mexico
    By Juan Mann

    The latest nation-destroying amnesty scheme of H.R.1645—the Security Through Regularized Immigration and a Vibrant Economy (STRIVE) Act—was introduced in the House of Representatives on March 22 by Treason Lobby mouthpieces Rep. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) and Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL).

    But don’t be fooled. This bill is not just about selling-out America to the lowest foreign worker bidder. The end-game of H.R. 1645 is the even more deadly: the sovereignty-eroding Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) plan for regional government.

    H.R. 1645 is 697 pages of immigration give-aways including at least seven flavors of amnesties great and small.

    Here’s my tally:

    Section 401—new worker program;
    Section 624—rolling amnesty for children under 16 years old;
    Section 643—agricultural workers “blue cardâ€
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    Okay, isn't it about time someone dropped another border security/enforcement bill on the floor of the House? Why can't these folks in the U.S. Congress comprehend what we're telling them - NO AMNESTY/NO GUEST-WORKER PROGRAMS!!!!

    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" ** Edmund Burke**

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    great post and I bet this is going to be a problem


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    does anyone remember which post had the list of Senator that voted nay and yea yesterday with the fax and phone numbers..it was a great list and I have lost it
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    Need to get the message out for enforcement only bill, including actually building the fence, a visible, tactile, real fence, that is not the "EMPEROR WORE NOT CLOTHES," type of fence.

    We can not wait around for a "Comprehensive" bill again
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbadger
    does anyone remember which post had the list of Senator that voted nay and yea yesterday with the fax and phone numbers
    I'd like to see that one too and hope someone can post it.

    In the meantime, this message lists which senators voted nay and yea:
    http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ic&t=67368

    (The time given is 08:24 PM which threw me at first as 08:00 is 8 AM, but maybe this is how they tell time in the Senate? "registered as Vote Date: June 7, 2007, 08:24 PM")

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    Duh,
    it is here somewhere and it was a great list ..if I find it I will let you know
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    The US Chamber of commerce and the "Latino" political organisations are very tenacious, and of cource they are going to keep trying, but they were delt a big blow yesterday. Bush, Kennedy, LA Raza, and the business lobbies, "north American Union" put everything they had into this fight and they were defeated in this battle. They were wounded!
    Now we must build upon our momentum and push the house to pass funding for true border inforcement and work place verification and an end to welfare, and government aid to illegal aliens.

    Lets keep the momentum going!!

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    Found list ...under Blitz:Williams early morning Cloture votes...posted by Olivermyboy
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    Man! Amnesty is amnesty. It doesn't matter who the criminal is.

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    It would not at all suprize me if this time it came out of the house; in was the super Amnesty from heck 1645. These transies thought they where throwing us some kind of bone with 1348. These people think they are all that, but now they will bring out the beast. In which there really be enough senators to vote for it. I hate to say it...The reason 1348 failed was not just because of us, but because of people like DeMint,Sessions and ect, also a few Amendments that were in fact Poisen bills. Which killed the bill. In which when Reid tryed to read those parts to the bill people like DeMint and Sessions did not allow him to do so. In which case destroyed it.

    I hate to say it but there is at least 60 senators that favor this. Can we stop 1645 in the house? Maybe not why because the house is controled by the democrats, in Nacy Pelosi. Unlike the Senate the weaker party has a lot less say in the house. So the leader ship is much much more powerful. Even so the size of the house might seem like hording cats.

    Also they the senate seen that they could be Blue sliped by the house. In planned to do this all along. In the house is the key to watch.
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