Thread: Half-baked ‘low-tax socialism’ is getting us a whole progressive hell

The 2013 Gang of 8 Bill originated in the Senate and passed the Senate, it was killed by House Republicans. Just pretend it's 2013 and the US House of Representatives is controlled by the Democrats. That's where we are as of January 3, 2018.

Originally Posted by Judy

The 2013 Gang of 8 Bill originated in the Senate and passed the Senate, it was killed by House Republicans. Just pretend it's 2013 and the US House of Representatives is controlled by the Democrats. That's where we are as of January 3, 2018.

Hmm, guess you don't have much confidence in a Trump veto, huh?

It will depend on the bill and what it does. What I expect Trump will do is negotiate with Pelosi to get his 70 point plan plus ending anchor baby citizenship (going forward) and asylum, refugee, UAC and TPS programs (as it is now), and make working in the US without permission a felony, into the bill.

I would expect he will keep the amnesty number as low as possible, charge huge fees comparable to what any green card person would spend to apply, exclude all newbies (recent arrivals in country for less than 10 years), criminals including misdemeanors, immigration violators (visa overstays, etc.) and public charges (using welfare) and deny a pathway to citizenship for at least 12 years that starts from the date of their LPR document, with the LPR requiring personal interviews and home inspection investigations by the FBI as part of the vetting process for the LPR.

Then after 12 years of satisfactory LPR status, they would be eligible to apply for a green card again subject to more huge fees and strong second vetting process including personal interview and home inspection investigations by the FBI, and this would be capped by numbers per year and part of the reduced green card allocation.

Then, after 5 or 6 additional years as a satisfactory permanent resident, they could potentially apply for citizenship.

He would also probably not agree for a start of the LPR program to begin until after the wall/fence and other enhanced border security and enforcement provisions have been completed and implemented including additional 5,000 border patrol agents, additional 10,000 ICE agents, authorization of state and local law enforcement to enforce US immigration law, 1,000 more immigration prosecutors, 500 more immigration judges, end to Catch and Release rulings, end to Sanctuary Cities and States, end to anyone in Executive Branch issuing work permits to illegal aliens without specific act of Congress (DACA, TPS, etc.), and requiring that any minor of 18 or under be returned to their home country within 24 hours of US custody including Consulate and Embassy locations within the US on condition that if they're released into the US instead of sent home by the Consulate/Embassy at their expense, the US will close the Consulate/Embassy and eject all diplomats working there, etc., etc., etc.

Trump will also probably want to amend the Posse Comitatus Act to authorize use of any Armed Service personnel to operate for border security to prevent illegal entry into the United States within 100 miles of any US Southern Border or Port as well as within our International Waters.

I don't know what Trump will do, but given the wholeness of his approach to solving this massive immigration problem for the American People and his efforts to try to negotiate with DemoQuacks last summer on the DACA deal, the complexity and fullness of both the Goodlatte bill in the House and the Grassley bill in the Senate, my feeling is he wants to solve the problem of illegal immigration and massive excess immigration into the US as soon as possible.

Not having a Republican controlled US House of Representatives makes an already extremely difficult and convoluted task much more difficult for his immigration agenda and other things he wants to do to fix our country, but he won't back down from it, he'll tackle it and make the best progress he can for US.

I don't think he'll see doing nothing as an option.

Just my opinion of how I think he'll see it given his campaign platform, his positions on the DACA deal, and where we are now with caravans of invaders at our borders and outside of economic sanctions (Judy's Plan B or some version thereof) no legal means to stop it.