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    LOL!! Out-dated uninformed DemoQuackery articles are not good sources of information. I thought whoever was saying "Republicans plowed us further into debt" actually had some facts to base their claim on.

    Apparently ..... NOT.

    Less than a year into the Trump and Republicans tax cut program, the largest tax cut in US history they say, the US government is already collecting more revenue than it did before the tax cuts. So Republicans did not plow us further into debt because of the wonderful tax cuts that not only are already delivering more tax revenue, they've helped increase GDP, they've kept industry in the US, they've brought new industry back into the US, they've created good jobs, they've increased the net expendable income of hundreds of millions of Americans whether working or retired, made if much easier for business to expand, both large and small businesses, and have been a wonderful thing for the American People. We still need to make the personal income tax cuts permanent and continue to work on getting rid of some more taxes like capital gains and the whole estate tax, but we don't have the votes for it now and won't for a long time, so we did what we could do and it was a good thing, not a bad thing.

    Hey, if anyone out there knows what Republicans did to "plow us further into debt", please do let us know.
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    Under Trump's watch, national debt tops $21 trillion for first time ever



    By KATHRYN WATSON CBS NEWS March 17, 2018, 10:41 AM

    About a year ago, President Trump pledged to eliminate the national debt "over a period of eight years." But for the first time in history, the national debt surpassed $21 trillion this week, according to the U.S. Treasury.

    The landmark comes shortly after Congress passed, and Mr. Trump signed, a suspension on the federal debt limit last month, allowing the government to borrow an unlimited amount of money until March 1, 2019.

    When Mr. Trump took office on Jan. 20, 2017, the national debt was $19.9 trillion, according to U.S. Treasury data. Since then, the GOP-led Congress has passed a $1.5 trillion tax cut bill and a two-year spending deal which, together, are expected to drive the deficit and debt further upward. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates annual deficits could top $2.1 trillion per year in the next decade, which would send the national debt soaring even higher.



    Republicans railed against the national debt level under the Obama administration, when it jumped from $10.6 trillion to $19.9 trillion, nearly doubling, but few have been as outspoken about the situation with Republicans controlling Capitol Hill and the White House. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, held up the spending bill last month on the Senate floor, blistering Republicans for doing exactly what they had criticized the Obama administration for doing.

    "I ran for office because I was critical of President Obama's trillion-dollar deficits," Paul said at the time. "Now we have Republicans hand-in-hand with Democrats offering us trillion-dollar deficits."
    Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee, called the national debt the "greatest threat to our nation" when it exceeded $20 trillion for the first time in September.


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    But the ever-increasing national debt isn't a frequent topic for Mr. Trump, and when it does come up, he doesn't seem too concerned. He's said he's open to eliminating the debt ceiling entirely.


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    Trump is not a fiscal conservative. That's just a fact that can't be denied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    The debt has grown $8 trillion since they (Republicans) took over the House, $3.8 trillion since they took over the Senate, and even $1.9 trillion just in the 22 months of trifecta control.
    What did Republicans do to cause that? Please be specific.
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    duplicate.
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    duplicate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Trump is not a fiscal conservative. That's just a fact that can't be denied.
    What did Trump do to plow us further into debt? Please be specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    LOL!! Out-dated uninformed DemoQuackery articles are not good sources of information. I thought whoever was saying "Republicans plowed us further into debt" actually had some facts to base their claim on.

    Apparently ..... NOT.

    Less than a year into the Trump and Republicans tax cut program, the largest tax cut in US history they say, the US government is already collecting more revenue than it did before the tax cuts. So Republicans did not plow us further into debt because of the wonderful tax cuts that not only are already delivering more tax revenue, they've helped increase GDP, they've kept industry in the US, they've brought new industry back into the US, they've created good jobs, they've increased the net expendable income of hundreds of millions of Americans whether working or retired, made if much easier for business to expand, both large and small businesses, and have been a wonderful thing for the American People. We still need to make the personal income tax cuts permanent and continue to work on getting rid of some more taxes like capital gains and the whole estate tax, but we don't have the votes for it now and won't for a long time, so we did what we could do and it was a good thing, not a bad thing.

    Hey, if anyone out there knows what Republicans did to "plow us further into debt", please do let us know.
    The debt has grown $8 trillion since they (Republicans) took over the House, $3.8 trillion since they took over the Senate, and even $1.9 trillion just in the 22 months of trifecta control.
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    Okay, I'll go slow.

    What

    did

    Republicans or Trump

    do

    to

    cause

    the

    growth

    in

    deficits/national debt?

    Please

    be

    specific.

    If you don't know, because it's not in the talking points memo, it's okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Okay, I'll go slow.

    What

    did

    Republicans or Trump

    do

    to

    cause

    the

    growth

    in

    deficits/national debt?

    Please

    be

    specific.

    If you don't know, because it's not in the talking points memo, it's okay.

    Simple answer, I believe most 3rd graders could understand.....
    They spent more than they took in
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