Thread: All I can say is, "Oh well..."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070712/ts_ ... _deaths_dc

and of course, the bleeding heart liberals / democrats will come out and say its "our" fault... nevermind that Mexico doesn't give 2 sh*ts about their citizens and WE do not want them here... so its gonna be our fault.

How about this.. How about the 20million illegals who are here now, go home and start their revolution to overthrow the horribly corrupt mexican government.....? Never happen because its much easier to come here and threaten civil disobedience......................

Never happen because its much easier to come here and threaten civil disobedience......................

The difference between the U.S.and Mexico is:
The criminal illegal alien here can get away with whatever he wants or does because he has a huge base of support groups and lawyers to provide assistance and cover. If they pulled the crap in their homeland that they do here, they'd be in jail immediately. No wonder they come...the tragedy is that we let them get away with it.

This is a tragedy, but not of Americans making, it is that of a government, on both sides of the borders, that will not do what it is supposed to be doing, period.

Either way, I refuse to allow this to continue and plan to fight it every step of the way. This way, when the people attempting to cross realize they will not be able to get in, they will stop trying to cross and people will stop dying. Then when they are stuck, they will begin the rumblings to get rid of the corruption in their own country.

Let's help them by making our government control our side of the border, thus sparking a revolution of necessity in Mexico.

I suppose it never occured to the author of this article that these people are not 'migrants'--THEY ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS!!

And I suppose, again, that it never occured to the ILLEGAL ALIENS to stay in their own dang country rather than risk death in the desert by sneaking into a place where they are not wanted or needed. THEY are causing their own demise by committing an illegal act. It's time they take responsibility for their actions instead of blaming you and me for wanting our laws enforced and our country secure from invasion.

I'm so sick of bleeding heart sob and blubber stories about the poor 'migrants' I could puke. The authors of such articles along with the newspaper execs who publish such drivel should be jailed for being stupid.

Has enhanced border security increased the number of migrant deaths? Unquestionably," said Wayne Cornelius, an immigration expert at the University of California San Diego. "There is no other way to explain the sharp increase in fatalities.


How about global warming? Al's favorite.

Here's the story from the link:

More migrants die as U.S. tightens border security By Robin Emmott
Thu Jul 12, 12:34 PM ET



REYNOSA, Mexico (Reuters) - Tougher security along the U.S.-Mexico border is forcing migrants to take more dangerous, remote routes to cross into the United States and pushing up the number of deaths in the desert.

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This year could see a record of well over 500 such deaths. At least 275 Mexican bodies have been found in the first six months, according to a Mexican Congressional report backed by U.S. and Mexican border groups and academics.

They say at least 4,500 Mexicans have died trying to cross since the United States drastically increased border controls in late 1994 to stem illegal immigration.

Following the failure of President George W. Bush's immigration reform proposals in Congress last month, U.S. policy is centered on tighter border security rather than giving immigrants more options to find jobs legally.

But some border experts say enforcement does not stop those trying to get into the United States and only makes it more dangerous, greatly raising the fees charged by people smugglers. As security increases, so will the number of deaths, they say.

"Has enhanced border security increased the number of migrant deaths? Unquestionably," said Wayne Cornelius, an immigration expert at the University of California San Diego. "There is no other way to explain the sharp increase in fatalities."

The Border Patrol recovered some 116 bodies in the Arizona desert between last October 1 and the end of June, and it only records deaths on the U.S. side of the frontier. It blames ruthless smugglers for taking migrants through dangerous terrain and sometimes abandoning them there.

"The number of migrant deaths is increasing because smugglers are taking them to less-patrolled, more dangerous areas," Border Patrol spokesman Ramon Rivera said. He said agents rescued 1,450 people in the desert in the same period.

Unknown numbers of migrants from Central America and other countries also die each year.

The U.S. government has raised its Border Patrol deployment to around 13,500 agents today from fewer than 4,000 in 1993 and plans to add a further 9,600 agents by 2012. It deployed 6,000 National Guard troops to the border last year for a two-year period until more agents are hired.

Washington aims to have "operational control" of the border by 2013 by building a 700-mile (1,120-km) wall along parts of the frontier and creating a "virtual fence" in desert areas with drones, sensors, cameras, satellite technology and vehicle barriers.

DROWNING, HYPOTHERMIA

Before the stepped-up enforcement operations, experts say most deaths were due to traffic accidents as migrants dashed across freeways in border areas. Today, most die from hypothermia in the desert or by drowning in the Rio Grande and irrigation canals.

Many Mexicans seeking work in the United States try the overnight trek through the hostile Arizona desert and away from urban areas such as Tijuana on the California border.

Between 2000 and 2005, 802 bodies were found in the desert, compared to 125 between 1990 and 1999, according to the University of Arizona.

Surveillance is expected to increase in the Arizona desert but some experts say that will simply encourage more people to try to cross remote swamp areas of the Rio Grande in Texas.

"As they increase enforcement in Arizona, we will see a shift toward the eastern and western fringes of the border. In Texas, we are already seeing more drownings," said Claudia Smith of the California Rural Legal Assistance Foundation, which campaigns for immigrants' rights.

Migrant shelters in Mexican border towns say they see no sign of less illegal immigration despite a fall in Border Patrol arrests. Some shelters, such as in Reynosa in northeastern Mexico, are expanding to offer more beds.

U.S. wage levels that are much higher than in Mexico remains the main incentive for attempting the difficult border crossing.

"I've got an uncle in Florida and the chance of something is so much better than here," said Adan Zendejas, a 24-year-old who cannot swim, as he readied to cross the Rio Grande from Reynosa on a car tire.

It's possible that smugglers are taking them through the desert.

It is possible the smugglers are killing them also. We hear they died in the desert - they never tell us why they die - in all cases.

Still, I think the ones who are crossing that desert are, for the most part, people who might be carrying drugs, or criminals.

The young man who can't swim and is going to cross on a tire - sounds like a real bright guy - just the intelligent type we need here - huh?