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    Navarrette the Jerk........Again

    Commentary: Putting a sinister spin on immigration crackdown
    POSTED: 1:55 p.m. EST, December 18, 2006
    By Ruben Navarrette Jr.
    Special to CNN


    SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) -- The worry used to be that illegal immigrants were stealing welfare. Then it was jobs. Now, we're told, they're stealing people's identities.

    For as long as anyone can remember, illegal immigrants have been working with the aid of bogus Social Security numbers. And this was seen for what it was -- a violation of U.S. immigration law.

    But last week, when Immigration and Customs Enforcement rounded up 1,282 illegal immigrants by raiding meat processing plants in six states -- Colorado, Texas, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota and Utah -- the operation was marketed as a crackdown on identity theft.

    ICE chief Julie L. Myers told reporters that agents uncovered a scheme in which illegal immigrants and others had stolen or bought the Social Security numbers of U.S. citizens and lawful residents for the purpose of getting jobs with Colorado-based meat processor Swift & Co.

    No! And ICE agents just figured this out? Dick Tracy, they're not.

    Why spin this as a crackdown on identity theft? That has a sinister ring to it, as if illegal immigrants were using stolen credit cards and withdrawing money from ATMs. More than likely, the extent of it was that people were using Social Security numbers that didn't belong to them so they could work at dirty jobs that Americans wouldn't do -- just as they have for generations, before the phrase "identity theft" entered the national lexicon.

    ICE shouldn't have to go to the trouble of bending the truth. If these workers were here illegally, and they got caught, then they should be deported. Period. The government has every right to do so, and those activists and union leaders who are complaining about families being separated and portraying ICE as the Grinch who stole Christmas don't have a leg to stand on.

    People need to take responsibility for their actions, and that includes illegal immigrants. If they enter the country illegally, and secure employment illegally, they're taking their chances. If, one day, their luck runs out, and their children wind up stranded because mommy or daddy got nabbed in an immigration raid, the blame lies with mommy or daddy.

    Of course, if this were presented as an immigration crackdown, people might ask: Why were no charges filed against the employer -- Swift & Co? The world's second-largest meat processing company has "never condoned the employment of unauthorized workers, nor ... knowingly hired such individuals," Swift & Co. President and CEO Sam Rovit said in a statement.

    Note the word: knowingly. Rovit didn't just fall off the meat wagon. He's read the statute. The 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act made it a crime to "knowingly" hire illegal immigrants.

    That's a monster loophole. Suddenly, whenever there is a raid, no one knows anything. Illegal workers? Who? What? Where?

    It's cynical, and it's the sort of thing that makes it hard to believe that Americans are serious about combating illegal immigration. How can we be if we don't address the problem at its source?


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    Well, wonders will never cease. For once I agree with many points he made although I hate to admit it.



    If these workers were here illegally, and they got caught, then they should be deported. Period. The government has every right to do so, and those activists and union leaders who are complaining about families being separated and portraying ICE as the Grinch who stole Christmas don't have a leg to stand on.
    People need to take responsibility for their actions, and that includes illegal immigrants. If they enter the country illegally, and secure employment illegally, they're taking their chances. If, one day, their luck runs out, and their children wind up stranded because mommy or daddy got nabbed in an immigration raid, the blame lies with mommy or daddy.


    Of course, if this were presented as an immigration crackdown, people might ask: Why were no charges filed against the employer -- Swift & Co? The world's second-largest meat processing company has "never condoned the employment of unauthorized workers, nor ... knowingly hired such individuals," Swift & Co. President and CEO Sam Rovit said in a statement.

    Note the word: knowingly. Rovit didn't just fall off the meat wagon. He's read the statute. The 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act made it a crime to "knowingly" hire illegal immigrants.

    That's a monster loophole. Suddenly, whenever there is a raid, no one knows anything. Illegal workers? Who? What? Where?

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    People need to take responsibility for their actions, and that includes illegal immigrants. If they enter the country illegally, and secure employment illegally, they're taking their chances. If, one day, their luck runs out, and their children wind up stranded because mommy or daddy got nabbed in an immigration raid, the blame lies with mommy or daddy
    There's a way we can avoid these bleeding heart stories in the future. Just deport the whole damn family! I don't understand why they won't do this. If they arrested the husband for being here illegally, then why not check the status of their spouses? if they are also here illegally, just deport the whole family! then no more "breaking us apart" at Christmas time.
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    Has Navertte been to this site yet?
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    Note the word: knowingly. Rovit didn't just fall off the meat wagon. He's read the statute. The 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act made it a crime to "knowingly" hire illegal immigrants.

    That's a monster loophole. Suddenly, whenever there is a raid, no one knows anything. Illegal workers? Who? What? Where?

    It's cynical, and it's the sort of thing that makes it hard to believe that Americans are serious about combating illegal immigration. How can we be if we don't address the problem at its source?
    Another whine trying to throw off blame. The illegal aliens priovide the employer with "deniability" by supplying false documents. While this does require us to view a major corporation as considerably dumber than the check advance business on the corner, stupid is not a crime. Illegal aliens should stop supporting corporations in this way.

    Additionally, the corporation submits data to the bureaucracy thereby giving themselves a long period of time to use any illegal worker and an additional layer of "deniability." The money talks, and that old BS walks. The walk should be in a southerly direction.
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    The government fined Golden State Fence Company millions of dollars, and threatened them with jail time.

    I think Swift and Co. has ties to the Bush family.

    Follow the money.

    See post on Narcosphere, titled

    ICE's Swift Plant Raids Netted Only Poor Folks Caught Up in the `War on Illegal Immigration'

    http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ic&t=48920

    http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/ ... /114924/26

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    Quote Originally Posted by sippy
    There's a way we can avoid these bleeding heart stories in the future. Just deport the whole damn family! I don't understand why they won't do this. If they arrested the husband for being here illegally, then why not check the status of their spouses? if they are also here illegally, just deport the whole family! then no more "breaking us apart" at Christmas time.

    Good plan!

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