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    Harry Reid pushes for vote on "Dream" Thursday

    By Karoun Demirjian

    Tuesday, Nov. 30, 2010 | 5:50 p.m. PST

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid pledged to force at least a test vote this week on an immigration measure to put undocumented military enlistees and college students on a pathway to citizenship.

    The measure, known as the DREAM Act, is one of the more popular immigration proposals to circulate Congress in the last few years, as it caters to a sympathetic set: young, high-achieving undocumented immigrants brought to the country before they turned 16.

    But when it comes to immigration, popular is relative term. Reid promised to file cloture today — a procedural step that allows him to bring up the bill later this week. But when he does, he’ll need 60 votes to avoid a filibuster; and it’s not clear he’ll be able to clear that hurdle.

    Lobbyists have been leaning hard on moderate Republicans, including New England go-tos Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins and Scott Brown, and those from high-immigrant states — including John Ensign of Nevada.

    Reid is going to need a bunch of them if he hopes to pull together 60 senators because he almost certainly won’t be able to pull every Democrat on board.

    Immigration issues have never split neatly along party lines. Already, senators like Bill Nelson of Nebraska and Mark Pryor of Arkansas are warning leaders not to count on their support.

    But despite slimming chances, Reid seems to be even more determined to make lawmakers put their name to a position while it’s still possible to get the measure past the House.

    The procedural measure he files Tuesday will let Reid hold a vote on the DREAM Act as early as Thursday.Reid has, however, made at least one tactical decision that would appear to compromise the bill’s chances of success.

    He is bringing up the DREAM Act on its own — a change in tactics from before the midterm elections, when he promised to bring it up as an amendment to the defense authorization bill. The Senate never voted to take up the bill, and lawmakers never had to cast a vote on DREAM.
    Stripping it away from the defense bill will make the military funding measure easier to pass, but give lawmakers on the fence fewer convincing arguments to bite the bullet and cast a controversial vote in favor of the DREAM Act.

    Making matters more complicated is that with the GOP taking over the House in a month, meaning this is likely the most controversial vote on immigration that the 23 Democratic senators whose terms come up in 2012 will take before their next election. Not all come from states with as pro-immigration a voting body as Reid.

    At the same time, it may be Reid’s last chance to deliver for his base, which helped Democratic senators who narrowly won tight races in the West this cycle, before his party and the president come up for another referendum. It will be all but impossible for Obama to deliver on his 2008 campaign promise to tackle immigration reform in his current term.

    Hispanic voters turned out in unprecedented numbers in Nevada on Nov. 2, casting 16 percent of votes. The turnout was credited in large part as a backlash to anti-immigrant messaging from Reid’s challenger, Sharron Angle — and on a ground operation that has been growing around the immigration issue since 2008.

    Democrats — especially Western Democrats in swing states — don’t want to lose that base; meanwhile, Republicans are trying to figure out how to corral it to support the GOP.

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    they Reid.
    they you & Obama can sent all the illegal immigrant over sea to fight & send Our men & lady home why the illegal Immigrant would run like hell back to mexico . if they had to go to fight . no Amnesty or no citizen for baby .
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    I dont buy the premise in this article that Ried won because of his immigration stance. He had allot more money and lets face it, Nevadians are a bunch of left wing Commies. I will never go there again.

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    There was not filing of clouture by Ried today:
    Vote Date Issue Question Result Description
    00257 30-Nov S. 510 On Passage of the Bill Passed S. 510 as Amended; FDA Food Safety Modernization Act
    00256 30-Nov S. 510 On the Motion S.Amdt. 4696 Rejected Motion to Suspend Rule XXII Re: Coburn Amdt. No. 4696; In the nature of a substitute, to modernize Federal food safety efforts without placing unnecessary burdens on food producers, increasing food prices, or saddling taxpayers with additional debt.
    00255 30-Nov S. 510 On the Motion S.Amdt. 4697 Rejected Motion to Suspend Rule XXII Re: Coburn Amdt. No. 4697; To establish an earmark moratorium for fiscal years 2011, 2012, and 2013.
    00254 29-Nov S. 510 On the Motion S.Amdt. 4713 Rejected Motion to Suspend Rule XXII Re: Baucus Amdt. No. 4713, As Modified; To repeal the expansion of information reporting requirements for payments of $600 or more to corporations, and for other purposes.
    00253 29-Nov S. 510 On the Motion S.Amdt. 4702 Rejected Motion to Suspend Rule XXII Re: Johanns Amdt. No. 4702; To repeal the expansion of information reporting requirements for payments of $600 or more to corporations, and for other purposes.
    00252 29-Nov S. 510 On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 4715 Agreed to Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Harkin Amdt. No. 4715; In the nature of a substitute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyCountry
    I dont buy the premise in this article that Ried won because of his immigration stance. He had allot more money and lets face it, Nevadians are a bunch of left wing Commies. I will never go there again.
    I lived In Las Vegas for 4 years. The SEIU and all of their Illegal Alien workers In the Casinos on the strip STOLE the election. Illegals were most definitely voting In the last election. By the way,they are committing a FELONY by doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dregerk
    There was not filing of clouture by Ried today:
    Vote Date Issue Question Result Description
    00257 30-Nov S. 510 On Passage of the Bill Passed S. 510 as Amended; FDA Food Safety Modernization Act
    00256 30-Nov S. 510 On the Motion S.Amdt. 4696 Rejected Motion to Suspend Rule XXII Re: Coburn Amdt. No. 4696; In the nature of a substitute, to modernize Federal food safety efforts without placing unnecessary burdens on food producers, increasing food prices, or saddling taxpayers with additional debt.
    00255 30-Nov S. 510 On the Motion S.Amdt. 4697 Rejected Motion to Suspend Rule XXII Re: Coburn Amdt. No. 4697; To establish an earmark moratorium for fiscal years 2011, 2012, and 2013.
    00254 29-Nov S. 510 On the Motion S.Amdt. 4713 Rejected Motion to Suspend Rule XXII Re: Baucus Amdt. No. 4713, As Modified; To repeal the expansion of information reporting requirements for payments of $600 or more to corporations, and for other purposes.
    00253 29-Nov S. 510 On the Motion S.Amdt. 4702 Rejected Motion to Suspend Rule XXII Re: Johanns Amdt. No. 4702; To repeal the expansion of information reporting requirements for payments of $600 or more to corporations, and for other purposes.
    00252 29-Nov S. 510 On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 4715 Agreed to Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Harkin Amdt. No. 4715; In the nature of a substitute.
    The article from the Sun was 10 minutes old when I posted.... These are really sneaky snakes that we are dealing with here. They are blowing smoke In many different directions...

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    One of our DC sources says ...

    Reid did not file for Cloture today as he had claimed he would. He is backing up which is a good sign.

    If he files for Cloture tomorrow, there is a minimum 30 hour countdown before he can count cloture votes.

    So if he files for cloture early Weds he can have a cloture vote late Thursday evening or 30 hours later.

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    Senate Republican leaders on Tuesday dug in their heels against doing anything more than passing an extension of the Bush era tax cuts and a continuing resolution to keep funding the federal government before heading home for Christmas.

    Senate Republicans are loathe to pass — at least this year:

    •a repeal of the Pentagon’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy regarding gays in the military
    •the DREAM Act that would give incentives for citizenship to children of illegal immigrants
    •an extension of unemployment insurance
    •the START Treaty, a nuclear arms reduction agreement with Russia
    “What we should be doing in this session … is to keep tax rates where they are, freeze spending, fund the government, go home,â€

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC
    One of our DC sources says ...

    Reid did not file for Cloture today as he had claimed he would. He is backing up which is a good sign.

    If he files for Cloture tomorrow, there is a minimum 30 hour countdown before he can count cloture votes.

    So if he files for cloture early Weds he can have a cloture vote late Thursday evening or 30 hours later.

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    A very good sign Indeed We are hammering them on the phones

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