Thread: Heritage Foundation Drafted NAFTA, President Trump Can Scrap It

In the 18 years it's been studied, there have been 2 changes to it.

1. adding a Sunset provision for subsequent repeal of the 16th Amendment within 7 years
2. exempting education because it's an expense of production instead of consumption and should not be taxed

The Democrats will want to do something with the Rebate, probably exclude "rich" people who earn over $100,000 a year, so it only rebates poor people.

That's fine. I don't want the Rebate and wouldn't mess with it to begin with.

There's really nothing else to change. It's a really simple piece of legislation.

The fact 'there's nothing else to change' is , in my opinion, the main reason it won't pass.

Why?

Judy wrote:

That's your opinion. I and millions of other Americans including 84 Sponsors in the US Congress disagree with you. Go ahead and attack the FairTax. That's what all the Democrats do, been arguing with them for years about it. I'm just very surprised that I'd be arguing with a Republican about it, especially one who claims he doesn't want to "pick winners and losers" which is all the income tax has done to the disadvantage of the United States and the American People for 103 years.

The very fact that the bill has been languishing in the U.S. House Committee of Ways and Means for almost two decades makes it much more than an opinion. Furthermore, please point me to where I said anything about picking "winners and losers". Those are not words I have ever used and don't appreciate being accused of saying something I haven't said.

He's going to work on passing his tax cuts first, then Congress will work on the FairTax, and if Congress passes it which I think it will, then he'll sign it into law. The middle class will always carry the burden of taxation in the United States, because it's the largest group of taxpayers. That's just a mathematical fact.

There has been no mention anywhere of Congress taking up the unfair tax plan next month, next year, or 10 years from now. It's time to get over this obsession and move on. No, the middle class shouldn't shoulder an unfair burden where taxes are concerned, even Donald Trump has said repeatedly that the wealthy should take on a larger tax burden. There should not be a tax plan that specifically singles out the middle class and gives breaks and loopholes to the rich. That is not fair and equal taxation. That's one of the problems with your so-called fair tax plan. It's all catchy soundbites and fuzzy math that won't live up to its promises. It's supporters claim it's equal and fair, but it's not.

Under the FairTax, rich people pay the same FairTax on their new goods and service purchases as anyone else, just like they do with a state sales tax. They even get the rebate if they want to mess with it. They will probably pay more FairTax per person because they spend more which is good. Whatever they spend on new retail goods and services, they pay FairTax on it same as everyone else. That's why it's called the FairTax. Everyone pays the same FairTax on whatever they voluntarily decide to purchase in new goods and services at the retail final point of sale.

I know that's the simple logic you would like the uninformed to believe, but it's not that simple and you know it. Please read:

http://www.fairtaxfraud.com/fallout.asp

I'm really shocked that you think rich people should be treated differently in this great country than you're treated. Everyone should be treated the same under the law in the United States. The FairTax achieves that on the issue of taxation, and rightly so.

No, the shouldn't be treated differently, but everyone should be treated fairly. And that just doesn't happen under the so-called fair tax plan. Time to stop spreading propaganda favorable to an agenda a research the actual facts. Here's a starting off point that does a good job exposing the deceptive so-called tax plan:

http://www.fairtaxfraud.com/fallout.asp

You may also want to try these:

http://www.thespectrum.com/story/opi...fair/10213657/

http://readersupportednews.org/pm-se...r-tax-not-fair

http://www.chronicleonline.com/conte...x-not-fair-all

http://www.nysun.com/opinion/scareta...fairtax/68160/

http://www.ctj.org/pdf/perryflattaxfairtax.pdf

That should be enough to start you on the road to reform and understanding.

LOL!! You posted articles and agreed with Palin on "picking winners and losers" and articles about Ex Im Bank about "picking winners and losers", it's the mantra. If you post it in a post where you agree with it, then it's the same as you saying it.

The bill has not been "languishing". When in the past 18 years have we had control of House, Senate and White House with a President who understands taxes? It's not "languishing" with a Democrat President, it's a non event with a Democrat President. You think Clinton, Bush and Obama were going to do something that would be good for our country? No, of course not, they're free traders who wanted to run jobs out of our country, their New World Order, march to One World Government run by multinationals.

That's not where we are now. We're in a whole different place. But think whatever you want about it, it doesn't make any difference to me whether you like it or not or whether you think it will pass or not.

I like it and I think it will pass and be signed into law by our 45th President of the United States.

Judy wrote:

LOL!! You posted articles and agreed with Palin on "picking winners and losers" and articles about Ex Im Bank about "picking winners and losers", it the mantra. If you post it in a post where you agree with it, then it's the same as you saying it.

Sometimes you worry me, Judy. When an individual post an article, whether they agree with it or not, does not mean they support or don't support every single word in the post and it certainly doesn't mean they said it. That you would suggest otherwise is just ridiculous.

On the unfair tax bill, yes, to put it kindly, it's languishing. To use a more direct and harsher word, it's dead. Always was and always will be. The American people won't be sold such a rotten bag of goods.

As they say, "We'll see."

You seem very hateful and emotional about a retail sales tax you really know nothing about.

Very odd in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Judy

As they say, "We'll see."

You seem very hateful and emotional about a retail sales tax you really know nothing about.

Very odd in my opinion.

Trust me, I've done a ton of research on the so-called fair tax plan. To claim I know nothing is more about your failure of observation than it is about my knowledge. Do yourself a favor and venture of the pro-fair tax sites and expand your subject knowledge. Have a nice day.

How do we always end up debating fair tax? At this time I would be happy if PE Trump would take on the Sanctuary states like California spending my taxes on illegal aliens. That definetly is not fair taxes!

Originally Posted by MontereySherry

How do we always end up debating fair tax? At this time I would be happy if PE Trump would take on the Sanctuary states like California spending my taxes on illegal aliens. That definetly is not fair taxes!

I guess it's because Judy thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread and I think it's the worst thing since a smelly turd.