Holiday Season Boycott, 2007

Boycott

It’s easy enough to blame the illegals for being here. Yes, they broke laws to come here, their presence here is breaking a law every day. They continue to break laws while here, often stealing American’s identification so they can work and buy things.

But these people would not be coming here if Americans did not employ them. The reason these employees are so attractive to so many employers, big and small, is because they are cheaper--not cheaper in pay, they make the same wage as any American would. The difference is this: the employer need not pay their contribution to FICA or various other local and federal taxes, and for workers comp and unemployment insurance and more importantly, for the bookkeeping and accounting that goes with all this on a legal American employee.

So what do we do? Run around shrieking about cattle cars and concentration camps? Yeah, that makes sense. We want to turn into Nazis to fix this problem.

Maybe we could do what Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. enjoined black Americans to do in the South in the 1950s and 1960s. The boycotts of bus lines and department stores that depended upon these “second class citizensâ€

This is something we can all do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Le't do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree on the employer boycott method.

But let's remember that individual illegals are just as guilty. It is perfectly justified to direct your anger at individual illegals. They knowingly smuggled themselves into the country and broke our laws.

Good grief, I hardly shop now. Only buying American products from American companies that don't hire illegals is getting harder and harder to do. It's also way more expensive. But I do it. It's worth it to me. I need to do some research on more places. Like, where can you go eat now? Chinese, Mexican, all are no no's. I know where to shop. I check everything. Never do I go to Walmart or Sam's. Now Sears is out. I did buy a new lawn mower. American made and expensive, but I proudly ride it around and it does a great job!

It's kind of tough when I just heard on the news last night that we get 80% of our goods from China. Most stores we shop in, buy from that country. So to sell cheap, the stores buy cheap, and hire cheap, thus the hiring of illegal aliens. At least I stopped buying my meds at Walmart. Groceries we already buy at another grocery store who doesn't hire illegals. Other things, I've been trying to find elsewhere.

Do we get to eat out anymore? I know A&W uses American beef. But I don't know about their other stuff. And shoot, we don't even have one here!
We go to Piggly Wiggly. They have American beef, and a butcher right there. You can talk to him and make sure you like him before you buy it! We are going to be building a home. Got an American builder and everyone will be American, but who makes American appliances? Geez! It's hard to find info on them. I asked someone at Lowe's and she didn't know. I told her it's her job to know!
Yes, Walmart is probably cheaper, but after you stop going you don't notice the price difference. You just get used to paying more and it feels good to know it's not from China. I won't have anything that is from China.

A boycott of this type just might work.A secondary benefit would be to slow down the purchase of Chinese toys and other goods,which have been in the news so much lately.

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Originally Posted by GOSCOOTIN

Do we get to eat out anymore? I know A&W uses American beef. But I don't know about their other stuff. And shoot, we don't even have one here!
We go to Piggly Wiggly. They have American beef, and a butcher right there. You can talk to him and make sure you like him before you buy it! We are going to be building a home. Got an American builder and everyone will be American, but who makes American appliances? Geez! It's hard to find info on them. I asked someone at Lowe's and she didn't know. I told her it's her job to know!
Yes, Walmart is probably cheaper, but after you stop going you don't notice the price difference. You just get used to paying more and it feels good to know it's not from China. I won't have anything that is from China.

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Hmm...I seem not to have made myself clear...I am not calling for a boycott of non-American made goods.

I'm not even sure how you can possibly do that.

I am calling for a boycott of the stores that hire illegals (virtually all major, national dept. and discount stores) this Christmas season. You can buy your new Japanese VCR from a store that doesn't hire or cater to illegals...that means, not Wal-Mart, not Sears, not Best Buy...probably a small, independed dealer, maybe online?

The point is to send a message to these large employers of many illegals: we can damage you at your bottom line; your only customers are not illegals...legal residents and native-born Americans buy your products, too, and right now, we still outnumber the illegals.

Tokie

I am with you Token,and I understood what you meant in your original post.
It might take a little time and effort now but I'm sure if we all just took a little time on the internet and researched we could come up with tons of places that don't cater to or employ illegals.
Here in my state we have all kinds of things that say "Buy Virginia" for local products, I'm sure every state does and it wouldn't be that hard to call and ask their policies on illegals.Maybe give gifts like a gift card for a local service ,help out an American worker by shopping at their store.Look around your area I'm sure there are a few stores owned and run by Americans that don't employ or cater to illegals.Go to craft shows during the holiday season and buy from them,they're mostly local women trying to supplement their income.





Head 'em up,move 'em out Rawhide!

I just have a total boycott attitude I guess.
It's not just the illegals that are hurting us, it's also China.
I love the idea of giving gift certificates. You could do an oil change for someone. There are a lot of ways to avoid the stores that hire illegals. You can make jelly to give to your family and friends. We do that. There are so many ways to avoid the big "Christmas" money machines.
I didn't mean to offend you. I just try to support American made and that's all.

FOOD BASKETS CAN MAKE A VERY GOOD GIFT. YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT THEM TOGETHER YOURSELF. ALL YOU NEED IS A CONTAINER FOR THE BASE (PREFERABLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REUSED).

THEN YOU NEED SOME FILLER.....LIKE THAT GRASS THEY USE FOR EASTER BASKETS. BUT YOU CAN SHRED YOUR OWN PAPER. I LIKE TO USE GOLD FOIL....SHRED IT AND USE IT TO LINE THE CONTAINER.

THEN JUST BE CREATIVE. FRUIT, VEGGIES, CANDY, WINE, CRACKERS, CHEESE, COFFEE, TEA, HOT CHOCOLATE, WALNUTS, CUPCAKES.....THE LIST IS ENDLESS. THE TRICK IS TO TRY YOUR BEST TO BUY WHAT IS GROWN LOCALLY OR MADE LOCALLY. EVEN IF EVERY SINGLE ITEM IS NOT AMERICAN MADE....AT LEAST IF MOST OF IT IS, YOU WILL BE DOING YOUR PART.

THEN YOU TAKE SOME CLEAR WRAP AND WRAP THE WHOLE THING AND PUT A GIANT BOW ON TOP....AND A CARD. AND THINK ABOUT IT, THIS IS A GIFT THAT EVERYONE WILL USE.

AND FOR CHILDREN THERE IS THAT PLACE WHERE YOU DESIGN YOUR OWN BEAR AND THEY MAKE IT THERE. CANT REMEMBER THE NAME RIGHT NOW. BUT THEY MAKE TEDDY BEARS FOR CHILDREN. YOU CAN PICK THE COLOR AND STYLE AND SIZE.....AND THEY MAKE IT.

This is also an excellent opportunity to support local merchants who do not hire illegals, which has the added benefit of keeping the dollars we spend in the hands of our friends and neighbors, and out of the hands of the big national conglomerates. This way we can send a message, and help our own communities at the same time!

I say just make sure your buying American made and grown products this holiday and give a big FU to the companies that outsourced and sold out American workers for cheap labor! I am already practicing that!

I will myself make every effort to do so -- not only at Christmas and the holidays, but STARTING NOW.

It will be my pleasure. We don't need half of all that junk anyway.

No major purchases coming up for me anyway -- just saving for college tuition . . . since we are white and receive no special handouts.

I'm in, I've been doing most of this anyway, it really is a great way to make a statement and Ameicans have to use every tool we have!! :lol:


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We just returned from New Mexico and I did 99% of my Christmas shopping there. Everyone is getting turquoise jewelry or baskets or something for the house that was hand made by the local Native Americans.
If you can't go to New Mexico, there are many websites that you can purchase these items from.

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Originally Posted by portaltotx

We just returned from New Mexico and I did 99% of my Christmas shopping there. Everyone is getting turquoise jewelry or baskets or something for the house that was hand made by the local Native Americans.
If you can't go to New Mexico, there are many websites that you can purchase these items from.

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What a wonderful Idea "Portaltotx" can't get any more American than that!! I will check out at the Indian Reservation :lol: Most of us have a reservation somewhere near!!

Some interesting and hopeful posts, but I seem not to have impressed on y'all the primary reason for this...it's not to make yourself feel good about not supporting companies that hire and cater to illegals, but rather to let those companies know that you are boycotting them!

All these are wonderful ideas, and I have nothing against boycotting the communists in China, either.

But let's not miss the point: it's to get companies that do business in America (I'd like to say "American companies," but that's just a joke) who also hire and cater to illegals (and any company that advertises in Spanish IS catering to illegals, let's call a spade a spade) to understand that you are not going to be patronizing them until they stop doing this.

That means not simply not shopping there, it also means letting them KNOW, via letter or phone call to their corporate offices, public relations or their CEOs office if you can get through, the you will be spending your money (I am telling them how much my family typically spends over the holidays...$800-$1000...yeah, Paris Hilton spends that much every day on dog manicures, but still....) with companies that neither hire illegals NOR cater to them here in America.

Tokie

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Originally Posted by portaltotx

We just returned from New Mexico and I did 99% of my Christmas shopping there. Everyone is getting turquoise jewelry or baskets or something for the house that was hand made by the local Native Americans.
If you can't go to New Mexico, there are many websites that you can purchase these items from.

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Good for you! Good start!

Now drop a line to Wal-Mart, Sears, Penneys, etc., etc., etc....and TELL them this. Tell them how much you spent and that you did so out of a conscious effort to avoid giving your holiday $$ to stores that employ illegals (all three of these do) and stores that cater to illegals through Spanish-language advertising and signage, etc.

It's not a boycott if they don't know they are being boycotted

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Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

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Originally Posted by portaltotx

We just returned from New Mexico and I did 99% of my Christmas shopping there. Everyone is getting turquoise jewelry or baskets or something for the house that was hand made by the local Native Americans.
If you can't go to New Mexico, there are many websites that you can purchase these items from.

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Good for you! Good start!

Now drop a line to Wal-Mart, Sears, Penneys, etc., etc., etc....and TELL them this. Tell them how much you spent and that you did so out of a conscious effort to avoid giving your holiday $$ to stores that employ illegals (all three of these do) and stores that cater to illegals through Spanish-language advertising and signage, etc.

It's not a boycott if they don't know they are being boycotted

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OK I will call but that kind of a boycott does me little good as we have no illegals here for the businesses to hire. I can do the major companys Sears, ect. but the local bussinesses it wouldn't work so I boycott where things were made. I will make calls to the major companies though!!

Here is the kind of thing I am sending out (via postal mail, by the way....they pay more attention to actual letters).

NAME
ADDRESS
ADDRESS
PHONE


DATE

Sears Holding Corporation
Office of Public Relations
3333 Beverly Road
Hoffman Estates, IL 60179

To Whom It May Concern:,

I am writing to express my concern with Sears’ and Wal-Mart’s employment of illegal aliens and marketing to the illegal immigrant population in my state. By this, I mean the employment of illegal alien workers in your stores and your advertising to the illegal alien market segment via Spanish-language TV and in other Spanish-language venues, and the appearance of Spanish language signage in your stores here in my state.

While I have been a lifelong customer or both Sears and K-Mart stores, your employment of illegal aliens and your policies of active marketing to those who are in this nation illegally, leaves me no choice but to take my business elsewhere. While my family spends only perhaps $800-$1,000 on gifts and related items during the holidays, we are this year making it a point not to spend any of those dollars at either Sears or K-Mart stores and indeed will not be patronizing Sear or K-Mart until these situations are publicly rectified.


Sincerely,


NAME (and family)

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Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

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Originally Posted by portaltotx

We just returned from New Mexico and I did 99% of my Christmas shopping there. Everyone is getting turquoise jewelry or baskets or something for the house that was hand made by the local Native Americans.
If you can't go to New Mexico, there are many websites that you can purchase these items from.

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Good for you! Good start!

Now drop a line to Wal-Mart, Sears, Penneys, etc., etc., etc....and TELL them this. Tell them how much you spent and that you did so out of a conscious effort to avoid giving your holiday $$ to stores that employ illegals (all three of these do) and stores that cater to illegals through Spanish-language advertising and signage, etc.

It's not a boycott if they don't know they are being boycotted

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OK I will call but that kind of a boycott does me little good as we have no illegals here for the businesses to hire. I can do the major companys Sears, ect. but the local bussinesses it wouldn't work so I boycott where things were made. I will make calls to the major companies though!!

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Good!

But get in front of the curve...just because there are no illegals there NOW, does not mean they are not headed your way. Even Alaska is seeing an influx of them.

As for boycotting local businesses: only if you see that they are in fact hiring illegals (or catering to the illegal market). I told my sprinkler service company 2 yrs. ago (I've had them do three houses so far) not to bother coming by for turn on/turn off any more as I found a company that does not employ illegals.

Guess what? No more illegals. They called and told me so.

Tokie

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Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

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Originally Posted by portaltotx

We just returned from New Mexico and I did 99% of my Christmas shopping there. Everyone is getting turquoise jewelry or baskets or something for the house that was hand made by the local Native Americans.
If you can't go to New Mexico, there are many websites that you can purchase these items from.

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Good for you! Good start!

Now drop a line to Wal-Mart, Sears, Penneys, etc., etc., etc....and TELL them this. Tell them how much you spent and that you did so out of a conscious effort to avoid giving your holiday $$ to stores that employ illegals (all three of these do) and stores that cater to illegals through Spanish-language advertising and signage, etc.

It's not a boycott if they don't know they are being boycotted

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OK I will call but that kind of a boycott does me little good as we have no illegals here for the businesses to hire. I can do the major companys Sears, ect. but the local bussinesses it wouldn't work so I boycott where things were made. I will make calls to the major companies though!!

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Good!

But get in front of the curve...just because there are no illegals there NOW, does not mean they are not headed your way. Even Alaska is seeing an influx of them.

As for boycotting local businesses: only if you see that they are in fact hiring illegals (or catering to the illegal market). I told my sprinkler service company 2 yrs. ago (I've had them do three houses so far) not to bother coming by for turn on/turn off any more as I found a company that does not employ illegals.

Guess what? No more illegals. They called and told me so.

Tokie

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That is exactly why I have been fighting this so hard, to make sure they do not come here, there is no one who is fighting this harder in their state than I am. constantly in contact with the governor and state and local officals, writing articles for the newspapers and on and on, I am involved in everything!! :lol: and looking forward to seeing Craig out!! :evil:

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Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

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Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

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Originally Posted by portaltotx

We just returned from New Mexico and I did 99% of my Christmas shopping there. Everyone is getting turquoise jewelry or baskets or something for the house that was hand made by the local Native Americans.
If you can't go to New Mexico, there are many websites that you can purchase these items from.

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Good for you! Good start!

Now drop a line to Wal-Mart, Sears, Penneys, etc., etc., etc....and TELL them this. Tell them how much you spent and that you did so out of a conscious effort to avoid giving your holiday $$ to stores that employ illegals (all three of these do) and stores that cater to illegals through Spanish-language advertising and signage, etc.

It's not a boycott if they don't know they are being boycotted

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OK I will call but that kind of a boycott does me little good as we have no illegals here for the businesses to hire. I can do the major companys Sears, ect. but the local bussinesses it wouldn't work so I boycott where things were made. I will make calls to the major companies though!!

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Good!

But get in front of the curve...just because there are no illegals there NOW, does not mean they are not headed your way. Even Alaska is seeing an influx of them.

As for boycotting local businesses: only if you see that they are in fact hiring illegals (or catering to the illegal market). I told my sprinkler service company 2 yrs. ago (I've had them do three houses so far) not to bother coming by for turn on/turn off any more as I found a company that does not employ illegals.

Guess what? No more illegals. They called and told me so.

Tokie

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That is exactly why I have been fighting this so hard, to make sure they do not come here, there is no one who is fighting this harder in their state than I am. constantly in contact with the governor and state and local officals, writing articles for the newspapers and on and on, I am involved in everything!! :lol: and looking forward to seeing Craig out!! :evil:

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Good for you!

I am becoming a thorn in the side of my "representatives." I can't get anything published in our local "news" papers any more....they are too tied up with advertisers who depend on illegals (this state has a ppp of just under 2 million and some 300000 illegals).

My kids are asking that we move...what's the economy like there?

Especially the real estate outlook?

Tokie

Construction has slowed down alot for homes but alot of commerical construction right now, people in the states that have been moving here are having trouble getting rid of their property in those states. we have gone from 10,000 to around 35,000 in the last 5 to 7 years. Beautiful town, great schools not much diversity mostly white few asians, alot of homes up for sale right now as people were looking to make money, definity a buyers market right now.

The important thing is what kind of work you do!! and is there jobs of that kind in the area.
We have English as the offical language in Idaho, no social benefits to illegals and all state employees must go through e-verify :lol:

I call and fax the companies all the time. Even tho we don't have many around here, I believe in an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. If they do business using illegals anywhere that puts me at risk. So I tell them "I was on a trip and stopped ...... and I am appauled at the catering to any people that do not speak English."
I also tell them they have completely lost my business until they become American again.

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Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Construction has slowed down alot for homes but alot of commerical construction right now, people in the states that have been moving here are having trouble getting rid of their property in those states. we have gone from 10,000 to around 35,000 in the last 5 to 7 years. Beautiful town, great schools not much diversity mostly white few asians, alot of homes up for sale right now as people were looking to make money, definity a buyers market right now.

The important thing is what kind of work you do!! and is there jobs of that kind in the area.
We have English as the offical language in Idaho, no social benefits to illegals and all state employees must go through e-verify :lol:

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What I do is very portable (would rather not say publically as I am licensed), though not the best thing in the world in a small town like that.

English is Official, there? How on earth did that happen!? Does Bush know? The Supreme Court? They must HATE you!

And no welfare for illegals?

Tell me: do you keep them out of the schools, too?

Now THAT would be something.

Tokie

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Originally Posted by GOSCOOTIN

I call and fax the companies all the time. Even tho we don't have many around here, I believe in an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. If they do business using illegals anywhere that puts me at risk. So I tell them "I was on a trip and stopped ...... and I am appauled at the catering to any people that do not speak English."
I also tell them they have completely lost my business until they become American again.

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Interesting...any response?

I saw a woman on TV here, she was presenting herself as a "spokesperson" for our state highways dept. (...no, I kid you not) and could barely speak English (you would not believe the problems we have with these people here in a "sanctuary" nor how much they run the place). I called that dept and spoke to their public affairs office and was informed, after doing a little tap-dance trying to get me to go away, that no, she was not an official spokesperson and that the only reason she was on camera is that she is married to one of the directors of the dept and is the sister of a county commissioner in the capitol city here.

And yeah, both of them hopped the border sometime last week or so.

This tells you how bad it is here, and its much, much worse in TX, AZ, CA (OMG!), NV, NM.....


Tokie