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    How The Fight Over Delegates Will Doom The Republican Presidential Nominee

    APR 12, 2016 @ 01:01 PM 566 VIEWS

    How The Fight Over Delegates Will Doom The Republican Presidential Nominee, Whoever It Is

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    Donald Trump is peeved. In Colorado, Ted Cruz outmaneuvered him at a party convention, leaving him with zero delegates. “I’m winning the votes by millions of votes but the system is rigged — it’s crooked,” Trump complained on 0 Monday.

    Donald Trump greets supporters after speaking at a campaign rally in Albany, New York, on Monday. (Photo by Eduardo Munoz Alvarez/Getty Images)

    You can dismiss this as whining, and you’d be partly right. It’s up to Trump and the people who work for him to know the complicated state-by-state rules for acquiring delegates, and organize accordingly. The Cruz campaign is simply outperforming the Trump campaign.

    But this shadowy delegate race is dangerous for Republicans. Because what Trump says is still basically right. The system may not actually be rigged at the moment. But it’s rig-able.


    To the extent that the Republican presidential nomination has been about anything, it’s about anger at the system. Trump and Cruz, the leading vote-getters, have based their campaigns on the idea that GOP elites have ignored or betrayed the voters. Those voters have already sent a lot of messages to Washington (in the form of extremely conservative Senators and House members elected in 2010 and 2014). The messages went mostly unheard. Those members of Congress have accomplished virtually nothing, except occasionally grinding everything to a halt, then wringing their hands as it all starts back up again.


    On a practical level, this is because their demands are too extreme or otherwise impossible to implement – even by them. (See, for example, repealing Obamacare.) But the voters don’t see it this way. They see a system that’s broken – conveniently overlooking the fact that they helped break it – and the only solution is to break it some more.

    This dynamic is what will doom the Republican nominee, whoever it is.


    If Trump arrives at the Republican Convention in Cleveland with a delegate plurality and cannot win on the first ballot, we’re told, anything goes. It will turn on the manipulation of arcane party rules and dodgy political tactics including vote-buying by any other name. Party nomination rules are just another version of the Washington system that the Republican base already hates and has voted overwhelmingly against. Only more opaque and more corrupt.

    The voters who are already fed up with the system will see it as highway robbery, confirming their most cynical views. The stock answer – “These are the rules, the winner is by definition the candidate who is most skilled working his way through them. Deal with it.” – won’t fly. That was John Boehner’s schtick, and look where it got him.

    Any outcome will enrage lots of people. Just different ones each time. If Trump wins more votes, but Ted Cruz manages to cadge enough delegates (via future primary wins and behind-the-scenes dealings), Trump will not go quietly. If Ryan takes off, neither Trump nor Cruz will go quietly. And, of course, if Trump wins, the party establishment and movement conservatives aren’t going quietly either. There is no “quiet” outcome here, because in each scenario the legitimacy of the eventual nominee – and the nominating process itself – will be attacked by the losers. Each of these scenarios is ugly. Maybe some are less damaging than others. But any turns what should be an occasion for unity into a divisive scrap.


    Which means a lot of Republican voters stay home in November. Republican voters are primed to believe the system will screw them over one way or another. That’s looking increasingly inevitable. And it’s good news for Democrats.

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    BREAKING: Trump Fans Outraged After Cruz Ground Game Pulls Stunning Move in MO.

    Donald Trump fans were stunned after Sen. Ted Cruz’s ground game managed to pull moves that would favor him if Donald Trump does not get the necessary votes to win the Republican nomination on the first ballot of the Republican National Convention in July.

    These two videos show what happened in St. Charles, Missouri, when groups met to caucus to present a slate of delegates for this summer’s convention in Cleveland.
    While Trump won five of the eight congressional districts in Missouri (and the state overall), the Trump campaign didn’t make a big push to choose the delegates when the party caucused to decide this weekend.

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    Cruz, however, made a huge push.

    “Saturday is caucus day in Missouri to select the first round of delegates to ultimately go to Cleveland,” an email from the Cruz campaign read.

    “As you probably know, the first vote in 5 of the Congressional districts are pledged to Trump and in the other 3 to Cruz. HOWEVER, on the second ballot should those delegates at the Congressional District Caucuses on April 30 and the State Convention on May 20-21 in Branson be Cruz supporters, and we do this across the nation, Ted Cruz can win the nomination on the second ballot.”

    “THIS SATURDAY 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. is the next critical time to help Ted. Hope to see you at a victorious state convention in May,” it concluded.

    Here’s what happened:


    “I am a first time caucus goer and this is a new experience for me,” read a statement from “Laurie,” who was at the meeting, to The Gateway Pundit. “If you are a political outsider (like Trump) you don’t have local control insiders like the establishment.”

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    “The bottom line… Trump slate turned in our delegates and it was totally rejected!” Laurie wrote.

    The Trump supporters were none too happy about it, with one even telling the person shooting the video to “send it to Drudge!”

    While Trump has done much better than any pundit expected, one of the last remaining doubts about his campaign is that it might lack the ground game and organization of a more established politician’s.

    Up until now, it looked like Trump was able to manage. However, as delegates slip away in places like Colorado and Louisiana thanks to Cruz’s significantly more organized grassroots organization, that worry has come up again.

    Keep in mind that this is going to take place all across America, one district at a time. If what happens in St. Charles repeats itself, very few delegates in Cleveland will be Trump supporters — and that has huge ramifications if he doesn’t get to 1,237 before the convention starts.

    While this may strike many as “old-school politics” and reeking of the establishment, keep in mind that this is what Hillary Clinton is going to do to whoever runs against her this fall. If he gets the nomination, Trump needs to realize just how key a ground game is. Otherwise, the Clinton family will be able to sell the Lincoln Bedroom to the highest bidder for another four awful years.

    http://conservativetribune.com/trump...outraged-cruz/
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    Trump's got this. Stay cool. Work hard and make sure he wins these next primaries by overwhelming landslides and viola, he's our nominee. Any state that doesn't deliver, is a state that doesn't want to fix our country, which means that state is part of the problem, not part of the solution.

    It's time to start taking names and kicking butts. You want to use your state party to stop Trump? Well that works both ways. You become a state that wants to TRY to cost Trump the nomination, we won't visit your state, we won't drive to it or through it, we won't land at an airport, stay in a hotel, or order a product that we know comes from your state for at least 4 years. Take Colorado, if it's got a "CO" on the label, it goes back on the shelf, floor or rack.
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