Illinois Board of Elections declares Cruz a natural-born citizen

[MW]

Illinois Board of Elections declares Cruz a natural-born citizen

POSTED AT 8:51 AM ON FEBRUARY 3, 2016 BY ED MORRISSEY


I know, I know … what does Illinois know, anyway? As the Washington Examiner points out, the Board of Elections decision isn’t the first ruling on this matter, but it may be the strongest yet in debunking claims that Ted Cruz is ineligible for the presidency. The board rejected a challenge to Cruz’ inclusion in the March 15th primary in no uncertain terms (via Instapundit):

“The Candidate is a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Canada to his mother who was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth,” the board said, explaining Cruz met the criteria because he “did not have to take any steps or go through a naturalization process at some point after birth.”

That explanation has formed the basis of a broad consensus ever since Cruz’ status was first challenged. He was born a US citizen by virtue of his mother regardless of where the birth took place. (The same would have been true of Barack Obama, too, although the state of Hawaii has made it clear on multiple occasions that he was born there.) While the phrase “natural born citizen” did not get a clear definition by the framers of the Constitution, that has been the accepted definition in legal circles for more than a century.

The board emphasized that it’s not interested in entertaining any further challenges, either:

A ballot commission in New Hampshire also ruled in favor of Cruz in January, but the language in Monday’s decision by the Illinois board took a stronger tone than the previous ruling, warning other skeptics, “Further discussion on this issue is unnecessary.”

That’s what they think. Never underestimate the power of conspiratorial thinking, nor the impulse to go to court over it. And don’t expect Donald Trump to stop harping on this, although it hardly did him any good in Iowa, and probably won’t do much better in New Hampshire either. It’s a low-cost zinger that guarantees a cheer line at rallies among the faithful, and right now Trump needs to rally them more than ever.

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[grandmasmad]

WAY BACK when I went to school.....Natural Born Citizen meant 2 CITIZEN PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rubio is an ANCHOR BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZERO citizen parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Judy]

Well, it just shows how stupid the Illinois Board of Elections is. His mother DID have to take steps through naturalization law to get him a passport to enter the United States. Same my husband's mother had to do for him when he was born overseas to 2 US citizens. There is a form to be filled out, and a Certificate to be obtained, and big proof of her citizenship in the US, and on and on and on. It's all filed in a Consulate Office, and then you obtain a US passport, and actually become a US citizen AFTER you've entered the US. If you never enter the US, you are technically not a US citizen, which means he was NOT a citizen at birth, is not a natural born citizen, and did not become a US citizen until he entered the US at age 4. If his parents never brought him to the United States and he died in Canada as a Canadian citizen, he would never have been a US citizen.

All of these rules and procedures are part of US Naturalization Law, statutes, that come and go, change with the wind and Congressional elections, by which no one becomes a natural born citizen. You become a natural born citizen where there is no wind that can change it, no law that grants it and no requirements of any kind for you to maintain it, and that my Illinois friends is by the mix of blood and soil, nature i. e. the term "natural born", of the blood of citizens on the soil of the country.

Natural Born Citizen = Born in the US to 2 US citizens.

[MW]

Judy Wrote:

Well, it just shows how stupid the Illinois Board of Elections is. His mother DID have to take steps through naturalization law to get him a passport to enter the United States. Same my husband's mother had to do for him when he was born overseas to 2 US citizens. There is a form to be filled out, and a Certificate to be obtained, and big proof of her citizenship in the US, and on and on and on. It's all filed in a Consulate Office, and then you obtain a US passport, and actually become a US citizen AFTER you've entered the US. If you never enter the US, you are technically not a US citizen, which means he was NOT a citizen at birth, is not a natural born citizen, and did not become a US citizen until he entered the US at age 4. If his parents never brought him to the United States and he died in Canada as a Canadian citizen, he would never have been a US citizen.

Excerpt:

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock


A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.

http://travel.state.gov/content/trav...rn-abroad.html

No passport necessary for U.S. citizenship. Ted Cruz, according to most legal experts, by virtue of his mother's U.S. citizenship is a natural born citizen of the United States.

[pkskyali]

The whole thing is a legal and principle absurdity.

Here it is. If both your parents are US citizens, it doesn't matter where you are born, you are a US citizen because both your parents were US citizens. If only one parent is a US citizen, then it doesn't matter where you are born, you are not a US citizen.

The whole idea of "dual citizenship" is another legal and principle absurdity, and this where Cruz identifies himself as subversive to the integrity of the idea of citizenship itself. If there is such a thing as dual citizenship, then it is inevitable that there be such a thing as multiple citizenship beyond dual citizenship. In other word, it opens the possibility triple, quadruple citizenship and beyond. If two parent claim dual citizenship from four different countries, then why can't their offspring claim quadruple citizenship in all four countries? You can't logically say that it depends on where the child was born, else that refutes dual citizenship because it then the offspring would only be a citizen of the country they are born in.

Cruz is the same garbage that the Obamination is. Our most important foreign policy crisis is the threat to the integrity of US citizenship. A vote for Cruz is a vote for the Obamination's most dangerous foreign and domestic policy threat, the threat to US citizenship, and indeed, the threat to all nations who uphold the significance of their own citizenship.

[Judy]

Excerpt:

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock


A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.

http://travel.state.gov/content/trav...rn-abroad.html

No passport necessary for U.S. citizenship. Ted Cruz, according to most legal experts, by virtue of his mother's U.S. citizenship is a natural born citizen of the United States.

If you were born in a foreign country, you require a passport to enter the United States. There is a procedure you go through to obtain a US passport when born overseas.

But thank you for posting the NATURALIZATION statutes that make Ted Cruz a US citizen if he entered the country legally on a US pasport after he was born. Oh my God, maybe they just drove him across the border never got him a passport? In which case he's not only not a natural born citizen because his citizenship is determined by law not nature, he may be an illegal alien to boot.

You need to go to State Department and look up "who needs a passport to enter the United States" if you aren't aware of such facts.

[JohnDoe2]

Natural-born mess: What would it take to kick Ted Cruz off the ballot?


. . . no state law authorizes an election official to scrutinize a candidate’s eligibility, . . .

[MW]

If you were born in a foreign country, you require a passport to enter the United States. There is a procedure you go through to obtain a US passport when born overseas.

But thank you for posting the NATURALIZATION statutes that make Ted Cruz a US citizen if he entered the country legally on a US pasport after he was born. Oh my God, maybe they just drove him across the border never got him a passport? In which case he's not only not a natural born citizen because his citizenship is determined by law not nature, he may be an illegal alien to boot.

You need to go to State Department and look up "who needs a passport to enter the United States" if you aren't aware of such facts.

You're missing the whole point, whether Ted Cruz received a passport or not is not the issue. At issue, according to your earlier comment, is whether he was a U.S. citizen at birth or not. You're attempt at misdirection is noted but the law, as I've proven, makes Ted Cruz a U.S. citizen at birth, regardless of whether his parents obtained a passport or not.

Ted Cruz was a U.S. citizen the day he was born. That has been proven by the information I provided and there is nothing you can say or do that will change a fact of law.

[JohnDoe2]

New Hampshire’s Ballot Law Commission, for example, has already said that Cruz is eligible — at least until a court says otherwise.

http://www.alipac.us/f9/natural-born...ballot-328275/

[Judy]

You're missing the whole point, whether Ted Cruz received a passport or not is not the issue. At issue, according to your earlier comment, is whether he was a U.S. citizen at birth or not. You're attempt at misdirection is noted but the law, as I've proven, makes Ted Cruz a U.S. citizen at birth, regardless of whether his parents obtained a passport or not.

Ted Cruz was a U.S. citizen the day he was born. That has been proven by the information I provided and there is nothing you can say or do that will change a fact of law.

No, he was eligible to be a US citizen the day he was born. To consummate that you have to enter the US. There is no point arguing this between us. You think a US citizen by birth is eligible to be President, they aren't. Only a natural born citizen born on US soil to 2 US citizens is eligible to be President. Americans have known this for over 227 years, but somehow you missed the class. Doesn't matter. It's up to voters to decide unless courts step in. Hopefully if we have fair elections, it won't matter, because if we have fair elections, a natural born citizen will be elected by the people of the United States.