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11-15-2006, 02:48 AM
2ndamendsis

"Immigrant Sanctuary Movement" --aztlan.net

the Catholic church just gets deeper and deeper into the fray.

http://www.aztlan.net/coachella_immigrant_sanctuary.htm

COACHELLA: Another Alta California city votes
to become an "Immigrant Sanctuary"
by
Hector Carreon
La Voz de Aztlan

Los Angeles, Alta California - March 24, 2006 - (ACN) Yet another city council in Alta California has voted to become an "Immigrant Sanctuary". Coachella, a city 125 miles east of Los Angeles and with 30,957 residents, passed a resolution that states "the city will provide a safe, healthy and dignified place to live for its immigrant communities, regardless of immigration status."

Coachella Mayor Jesse Villarreal said that the undocumented immigrants living in the city can rest easy knowing that the local police won’t act as border patrol and turn them in. The resolution will also protect US citizens of Mexican descent from being harassed by the police who could mistake them of being undocumented. . The city populations is 97% Latino.

The "Immigrant Sanctuary Movement" is rapidly expanding in Alta California with the cities of Maywood, Los Angeles, Huntington Park, Pomona and San Francisco having already passed similar measures. The city council resolutions are attempts to prevent local police from arresting the undocumented if the anti-immigrant legislation presently before the US Senate passes.

The Border Protection, Antiterrorism and Illegal Immigration Control Act, before the U.S. Senate, authorizes local authorities to enforce federal immigration law, proposes building a $2 million fence along the border and criminalizes those who help the undocumented. It would also authorize police agencies to arrest undocumented immigrants.

The Coachella resolution passed by its city council is credited to the efforts of the Comite Latino that attended the Mexicano/Latino Leadership Immigration Summit in Riverside. At that summit meeting the Vice Mayor of the City of Maywood, Felipe Aguirre, gave a presentation on how his city became an "Immigrant Sanctuary". His presentation was very inspirational and it gave birth to the immigrant sanctuary movement. The federal government has threaten to stop the funding for certain city programs but Vice Mayor Aguirre simply told the feds, "Keep your money!"

The "Immigrant Sanctuary Movement" within the various cities will most probably join up with efforts by the Catholic Church. Los Angeles Cardinal Rogelio Mahony has gone on record saying that if the "Sensenbrenner Legislation" passes, he will instructs his priests to disobey certain measures of the proposed law that makes it a criminal act to help undocumented people in need. We may be witnessing the beginning of massive civil disobedience by huge numbers of people, organizations and institutions.

The City of Coachella has a long history revolving around agriculture. Cesar Chavez once marched through the city in his struggle for farm worker rights and today the area's agricultural industry still relies mostly on Mexican and Mexican-American workers.

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11-15-2006, 04:44 AM
MW

Looks like ICE now has a few new places to set up offices. If the towns won't do anything to help, then ICE must take necessary action to ensure our laws are obeyed! :x

I honestly believe the federal government needs to crack down on these so-called sanctuary cities to halt the spread. If other cities and towns see ICE cracking down on designated sanctuary cities, those thinking of joining the club won't be so eager. What say you ICE, can we depend on you to provide a little enforcement? Is it too much to ask?
11-15-2006, 05:06 AM
Dixie

MW,

I was just thinking the same thing. We will have some wise cities that will pass ordinances, which will prevent settlement of illegal aliens, while some foolish cities will welcome them. Wonder what the latter has planed, when they are overrun by illegal aliens from cities that have rejected them. That's going to be funny watching them scream for help from the state and federal governments, after the numbers reach unbearable proportions.

Dixie
11-15-2006, 08:07 AM
mrazmerized

Does anyone know if Cook County (Chicago) board voted yesterday to make theirs a sanctuary city on behalf of Elvira and her son?
11-15-2006, 08:33 AM
loservillelabor

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That's going to be funny watching them scream for help from the state and federal governments, after the numbers reach unbearable proportions.

We really do need to see that their Federal dollars are pulled.
11-15-2006, 08:40 AM
PinestrawGuys

Re: "Immigrant Sanctuary Movement" --aztlan.net

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Originally Posted by 2ndamendsis

The City of Coachella has a long history revolving around agriculture. Cesar Chavez once marched through the city in his struggle for farm worker rights and today the area's agricultural industry still relies mostly on Mexican and Mexican-American workers.

What Hector Carreon fails to tell you is that Cesar Chavez marched through Coachella on his way to the border PROTESTING ILLEGAL ALIENS. Cesar Chavez used to call the INS on illegals because he KNEW they would hurt his workers by driving down wages and/or breaking a strike.

I wonder why he didn't mention that... :roll:
11-15-2006, 08:47 AM
HOTCBNS

EXCUSE ME...WHAT'S WRONG HERE???

Cities, towns and states have constitutional rights to make laws especially for the protection safety and welfare of it's citizens..We are having to fight to do it ourselves ...because of the failure of government to do their common-sense, duty and responsibility of enforcement...where the hell does again another infraction of the law of " sanctuary" of illegal aliens and their supporters. Go un-enforced. . Unlawful are
The illegal aliens, harboring, aiding and abetting, sanctuary and the churches need to loose their tax-exemption status for interfering and trying to obstruct, impede and interfere with the laws of the country and constitution. The "Immigrant Sanctuary Movement" within the various cities will most probably join up with efforts by the Catholic Church Los Angeles Cardinal Rogelio Mahony has gone on record saying he will instructs his priests to disobey certain measures of the proposed law...if the Catholic churches get involved ...I for one will walk away from the church ...because this disobedience is against our faith, upbringing, and un-American..
This has nothing to do with
IMMIGRATION, IMMIGRATION LAWS, IMMIGRANTS, MINORITIES OR CIVIL RIGHTS...THIS PLATFORM IS BEING USED BY ILLEGAL ALIENS /OPEN BORDERS SUPPORTERS TO GAIN SYMPATHY, GARNER SUPPORT AND RIGHTS THAT DON’T BELONG TO THEM while they violate our Rights, Country, Economic System and US citizens...They attack any Americans who disagrees with their felonious activities, speak against their platform, or try to enforce laws.
Not one of our Government Houses as yet... has spoken up in defense of the American People and the horrific crimes being perpetrated against Americans. But then...they don’t know how to enforce laws on the books either...but they keep writing the same laws over again to fit the situation and we should think those laws will be enforced>>>
If the Vatican and the Whitehouse don’t think a border fences is necessary on our borders to protect American...they should take down the fences around the Vatican and Whitehouse (the people’s houses) and let anyone walk in including the Illegals
Americans...
It's Pass The Time We Need To Start Suing Our States And Federal Government For Failure To Enforce Law And Order, Failure to Protect the Safety And Welfare Of Citizens, Failure of compliance of Duties and Oath, Failure to Rule and Preside over the Rights and Will of “We the People” (our government. our laws and our Constitution)
Miss-Using And Fraudulently Using Tax-Payer's Money, Deceit and Deception in Government, Aiding and Abetting an Invasion, By-passing Legislation to Protect the Sovereignty of the U.S. and citizens, and Conspiring with a Foreign Government

Our Statue of Liberty, doesn't have a sign on her forehead that reads" America can be Used, Abused, Hated, Invade and Occupied" nor does it say "Property of Mexico"
"THOSE WITH THE GOLD MAKE THE RULES...IT'S CALLED GOLDEN RULES"
11-15-2006, 10:52 AM
noyoucannot

Since our town passed an anti-illegal ordinance last month, the local Catholic leadership has been going nuts, writing letters to the editor, etc. The latest was a big spread in the diocese newspaper about how our "dying" town basically shot itself in the foot by putting out the message that we are not "welcoming of newcomers." They still cannot make the distinction between LEGAL and ILLEGAL. And then there was the usual mention of the "great family values, rich culture, and work ethic."

The bishop stated in this column that we will be sorry in the future that we made this decision because businesses who might consider locating here will be looking to locate to an area which welcomes a willing workforce.

This is a depressed area where a lot of people are either unemployed, or underemployed. I hardly think we need to import uneducated, illiterate illegals to make up an available workforce. I cannot understand that logic and it infuriated me.
11-15-2006, 11:30 AM
HOTCBNS

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Originally Posted by noyoucannot

Since our town passed an anti-illegal ordinance last month, the local Catholic leadership has been going nuts, writing letters to the editor, etc. The latest was a big spread in the diocese newspaper about how our "dying" town basically shot itself in the foot by putting out the message that we are not "welcoming of newcomers."
The bishop stated in this column that we will be sorry in the future that we made this decision because businesses who might consider locating here will be looking to locate to an area which welcomes a willing workforce.
This is a depressed area where a lot of people are either unemployed, or underemployed. I. I cannot understand that logic and it infuriated me.

I don't blame you...there is a difference between illegal and legal...as WE KNOW....
someone needs to turn in the Bishop's church in your town to IRS....for infractions on their non-for profit license...you could remind him it's not his job to initiate and interfere with the making and carring out laws.. the underemployed or unemployed have a right to state re-education programs to up-date or up-grade their skills...some should take advantage...if they get a hard time...make a fuss and find out how illegals are getting employment education and help..
.CALL IT NO CITIZEN LEFT BEHIND.....
Companies coming into the area will be glad to have no baggage in the area that they have to donate to clean up....and tell him if he feels sorry...let him and his church take on the responsiblity of housing, welfare,healthcare,schooling etc..
.how many does he want to support...because we are sick of it...
also ask him how much of his churche's funds has he donated???
Ask him why he's not helping your unemployed and underemployed and writing letters to the governor and state legislation to get help .... if you are fronm NEW JERSEY OR ILLINOIS....THE ILLEGALS ARE GETTING ALL KINDS OF HELP BEHIND A FARCE OF IMMIGRATION HELP AND WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF MOST CITIZENS....
11-15-2006, 01:32 PM
Newmexican

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The latest was a big spread in the diocese newspaper about how our "dying" town basically shot itself in the foot by putting out the message that we are not "welcoming of newcomers." They still cannot make the distinction between LEGAL and ILLEGAL. And then there was the usual mention of the "great family values, rich culture, and work ethic."

It sounds as though the collection plates have been a little empty lately. 8)
11-15-2006, 01:40 PM
CrocketsGhost

We have to remember that the Catholic Church is the only church that is also a state. As such, its inteference in the laws and law enforcement in this sovereign nation should be monitored carefully. We have to remember that Vatican City is in effect the only foreign nation that collects taxes on American soil through its enforced tithe. It has an economic interest in undermining our laws, and so should be treated not as a religion, but rather as what it is: a for-profit foreign power whose interests are often in opposition with those of this nation.
11-15-2006, 01:54 PM
Newmexican

Crocket, you do have a knack for putting things into the proper perspective.

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We have to remember that the Catholic Church is the only church that is also a state. As such, its inteference in the laws and law enforcement in this sovereign nation should be monitored carefully. We have to remember that Vatican City is in effect the only foreign nation that collects taxes on American soil through its enforced tithe. It has an economic interest in undermining our laws, and so should be treated not as a religion, but rather as what it is: a for-profit foreign power whose interests are often in opposition with those of this nation.
11-15-2006, 01:59 PM
AlturaCt

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It has an economic interest in undermining our laws

Exactly - It some ways no different then many of our own politicians.
11-15-2006, 02:40 PM
dyehard39

U.S. Immigration Law

The U.S. immigration laws require deportation of an illegal alien if the alien:
. has been convicted of an aggravated felony.
has not resided in the United States for a contiguous period of seven years
. was not a lawful permanent resident for a contiguous period of five years . would not have been admissible to the United States on security grounds
This applies to the majority of illegal aliens found in gangs. In order to prove evidence of residence lawfully, they would need to show a visa or other federal document allowing their entry into the United States or an approved application for permanent residence in the United States. Few if any illegal aliens have such documents and only a handful of gang members.

Section 274 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, USC 1324 states:
A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:
* assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or
* encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or
* knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.
City Sanctuary regulations circumvent the law by adopting a don't ask, don't tell policy. A police officer who follows the city regulation to not question a person who he or she suspects is an illegal alien due to probable cause (as in was witness to a previous arrest and subsequent disclosure of illegal alien status or deportation) has placed the officer in violation of Federal Law, and thus that city regulation conflicts with U.S. Immigration law.
It is the responsibility of the U.S. Attorney General, when notified of an entity acting in contravention of U.S. law, to investigate and if necessary bring such organizations before a federal grand jury for possible indictment. Failure of the U.S. Attorney General to do so, is in of itself, a felony.
It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any alien who is in the United States in violation of law. HARBORING MEANS ANY CONDUCT THAT TENDS TO SUBSTANTIALLY FACILITATE AN ALIEN TO REMAIN IN THE U.S. ILLEGALLY. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

Any City ordnance, regulation or policy which prohibits officers of a court or law enforcement to inquire as to a persons immigration status clearly conceals and attempts to harbor or shield detection of an illegal alien. Moreover, by allowing that alien to move about freely without questioning, substantially facilitates an alien to remain in the U.S. illegally.

It is the responsibility of the U.S. Attorney General to investigate claims of entities that substantially facilitate an alien to remain in the U.S. illegally, and to turn over such evidence as may be gathered to a grand jury for possible indictment. Failure to do so is in of itself a felony.Public disclosure of the sanctuary policies of Los Angeles, California and New York City, New York by Heather MacDonald in The Illegal Alien Crime Wave, City Journal, Front Page Magazine, 2/14/2004 as well as notation of possible others in Austin, Texas; Boulder, Colorado; Houston, Texas;and Chicago, Illinois should have prompted investigations into the legality of those regulations in those cities. Failure to conduct such investigations would also be a felony.

Failure to investigate for personal gain, especially political gain is reprehensible, immoral, and cowardly. In our opinion, failure to federally prosecute or for that matter or the state to fail to prosecute a city for regulations that substantially facilitate an alien to remain in the U.S. illegally is a felonious offense in state laws for the states in question. It is therefore incumbent upon the U.S. Attorney to investigate State's Attorneys General who have failed to investigate and prosecute cities that substantially facilitate an alien to remain in the U.S. illegally.

http://www.milnet.com/mex-nat.html

Sanctuary

For decades, some churches and supporters have tried to provide sanctuary to illegal immigrants, realizing and sympathizing with the plight of some immigrants into the U.S. Unable or unwilling to distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants, many of these institutions have found themselves on the wrong side of the law with the obvious results. Many have now become hubs for a kind of underground railroad for illegal immigrants, and as such, they also became criminal enterprises that aid and abett highly violent criminals who also happen to be illegal aliens.

This state of affairs has become a serious problem. Liberal minded city governments in the U.S. have written laws contrary to federal law, preventing local law enforcement and even court systems from using immigration status in their work. In Los Angeles, for instance, Special Order 40 (enacted in 1979) prevents officers and local court officials from asking about immigration status of a suspect. If an officer spots someone that they know has been recently deported, they are prohibited by this regulation to question or arrest the suspect. And the officer is prohibited from notifying the federal agency tasked with detaining and deporting illegal aliens, the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE - formerly the INS). All of this is in direct conflict with the Immigration Reform Act of 1996 which specifically prohibits any city or state government from interfering in the illegal immigration enforcement process.

In what many would call insanity, there have been no cases so far where the U.S. Government has challenged the local regulations. L.A. is of course not the only city. For instance, in "May 2004, Atlanta Gerogia's Mayor Shirley Franklin approved an agreement with the government of Mexico that recognizes the Mexican Consulate-issued Matricula Consular ID as valid for city business and services" 3

Of course the cities pay for their ignorance and liberal insanity. "Manhattan Institute fellow Heather MacDonald reports that in Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide are for illegal aliens and as of January 2004, there were more than 1,200 such warrants.".. 3

The problems in these sanctuary cities is worming its way into federal government. The U.S. Senator from Georgia Sam Zamarripa (D-DeKalb) calls illegal aliens "immigrants" with "incomplete documentation", the ultimate politically correct description of illegal aliens. . 3
The Marietta Journal (Atlanta, Georgia) states, "In December, Congress quietly failed to provide funding for the border security provisions it approved in the Intelligence Bill. It further refused to keep the strongest recommendations of the 9/11 Commission that would have aided in U.S. interior security by standardizing driver's licenses and adapting more efficient deportation procedures" . 3

Cities that participate in sanctuary policies rank amongst the highest with illegal immigrant crime, jail and prison populations. These are Austin, Texas; Boulder, Colorado; Chicago, Illinois; Houston, Texas; Los Angeles, California; New York City, N.Y., San Francisco, California; and Washington, D.C. There may be others, the trend seems to be an epidemic, one which promises death and destruction in every city that sanctuary is provided.

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http://www.milnet.com/mex-nat.html
11-15-2006, 08:01 PM
HOTCBNS

THANKS FOR ALL THAT INFO

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Originally Posted by dyehard39

U.S. Immigration Law

The U.S. immigration laws require deportation of an illegal alien if the alien:
http://www.milnet.com/mex-nat.html

THANKS FOR ALL THAT INFO ...I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR ALOT OF IT